# Witness haters--are you happy now? :( **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 2, 2013, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witness-haters-are-you-happy-now/670221 "2013-10-02T23:02:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 33
**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2013, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witness-haters-are-you-happy-now/670221/641 "2013-12-11T17:51:42Z")
I haven’t been following this thread but just wanted to let people know that I’m still pretty happy. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2013, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witness-haters-are-you-happy-now/670221/642 "2013-12-11T21:04:12Z")
> [@Accidental\_Martyr](#): > > Do you like Phil Collins? I’ve been a big Genesis fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, _Duke_. Before that, I really didn’t understand any of their work. Too artsy, too intellectual. It was on _Duke_ where Phil Collins’ presence became more apparent. > I think _Invisible Touch_ was the group’s undisputed masterpiece. It’s an epic meditation on intangibility. At the same time, it deepens and enriches the meaning of the preceding three albums. Listen to the brilliant ensemble playing of Banks, Collins and Rutherford. You can practically hear every nuance of every instrument. In terms of lyrical craftsmanship, the sheer songwriting, this album hits a new peak of professionalism. > Take the lyrics to “Land of Confusion”. In this song, Phil Collins addresses the problems of abusive political authority. “In Too Deep” is the most moving pop song of the 1980s, about monogamy and commitment. The song is extremely uplifting. Their lyrics are as positive and affirmative as anything I’ve heard in rock. This is a whoosh, right? (I can see day, and you say night…) ---
**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2013, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witness-haters-are-you-happy-now/670221/643 "2013-12-11T22:01:36Z")
> [@digs](#): > > Why “of course”? > I’ve never heard anyone use that phrase. I’ve got a number of childless friends, and in a few cases, it’s a medical condition, but in most it’s a choice. But those friends wouldn’t say “of course”. > But if you’re shy, or protecting someone’s secret, fell free to skip the question. “Shy” probably comes closest…I have never had any close personal relationships. ---
**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2013, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witness-haters-are-you-happy-now/670221/644 "2013-12-11T22:05:24Z")
> [@Accidental\_Martyr](#): > > Do you like Phil Collins? I’ve been a big Genesis fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, _Duke_. Before that, I really didn’t understand any of their work. Too artsy, too intellectual. It was on _Duke_ where Phil Collins’ presence became more apparent. > I think _Invisible Touch_ was the group’s undisputed masterpiece. It’s an epic meditation on intangibility. At the same time, it deepens and enriches the meaning of the preceding three albums. Listen to the brilliant ensemble playing of Banks, Collins and Rutherford. You can practically hear every nuance of every instrument. In terms of lyrical craftsmanship, the sheer songwriting, this album hits a new peak of professionalism. > Take the lyrics to “Land of Confusion”. In this song, Phil Collins addresses the problems of abusive political authority. “In Too Deep” is the most moving pop song of the 1980s, about monogamy and commitment. The song is extremely uplifting. Their lyrics are as positive and affirmative as anything I’ve heard in rock. I’ve heard of Phil Collins, and Genesis; but I couldn’t identify him to safe my life. As I said, I’m not a rock fan; I chose to listen to “beautiful music” and classical radio stations instead of rock stations. (That may set me off from most people but, well, that’s the breaks.) ---
**Author:** ![neofishboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/neofishboy/32/444_2.png) [@neofishboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neofishboy)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2013, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witness-haters-are-you-happy-now/670221/645 "2013-12-11T23:43:50Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > This is a whoosh, right? (I can see day, and you say night…) [Reference.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmTyizVfCng) ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2013, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witness-haters-are-you-happy-now/670221/646 "2013-12-12T00:16:20Z")
> [@dougie\_monty](#): > > I chose to listen to “beautiful music” and classical radio stations instead of rock stations. (That may set me off from most people but, well, that’s the breaks.) Oh, [me too](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leck_mich_im_Arsch)! ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2013, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witness-haters-are-you-happy-now/670221/647 "2013-12-12T02:37:50Z")
> [@dougie\_monty](#): > > “Shy” probably comes closest…I have never had any close personal relationships. But when you say “Of course, I never had children”, it sounds like you’ve given up on a _‘close personal relationship’_. Don’t. There’s a lot of different people out there. And since you’re a different people [knee slap]… ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2013, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witness-haters-are-you-happy-now/670221/648 "2013-12-12T12:13:50Z")
> [@neofishboy](#): > > [Reference.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmTyizVfCng) [And.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzN3qO-qc8U) And then there is[this.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fk15H6PjBis) ---
**Author:** ![Accidental\_Martyr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ce7236/32.png) [@Accidental\_Martyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Accidental_Martyr)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2013, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witness-haters-are-you-happy-now/670221/649 "2013-12-12T17:37:48Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > Touché. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2013, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witness-haters-are-you-happy-now/670221/650 "2013-12-12T18:18:07Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > [And.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzN3qO-qc8U) And then there is[this.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fk15H6PjBis) Too bad. I have dial-up and can’t view those things. I still don’t know Phil Collins from Adam. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2013, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witness-haters-are-you-happy-now/670221/651 "2013-12-12T21:51:22Z")
> [@dougie\_monty](#): > > Too bad. I have dial-up and can’t view those things. I still don’t know Phil Collins from Adam. No big deal. Its just an authority on 80s pop music giving insight into the genre. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2013, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witness-haters-are-you-happy-now/670221/652 "2013-12-13T05:18:26Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > No big deal. Its just an authority on 80s pop music giving insight into the genre. And it’s from the movie “American Music Critic”, I believe. ---
**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2013, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witness-haters-are-you-happy-now/670221/653 "2013-12-20T07:10:08Z")
> [@digs](#): > > And it’s from the movie “American Music Critic”, I believe. …and with my limited tastes, a _movie_ about _rock_ would have zero appeal… ☹ ---
**Author:** ![peterhedstrom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecc23a/32.png) [@peterhedstrom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peterhedstrom)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2013, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witness-haters-are-you-happy-now/670221/654 "2013-12-27T02:08:05Z")
[quote=“dougie\_monty, post:1, topic:670221”] I found this article today in the Huffington post: \*It was a miracle no one was injured. After telling a group of three Jehovah’s Witnesses to get lost, Centeron, Ark., resident John Baldwin, 35, fired about 19 shots at the group as they were leaving, police said. Everything was OK when the Jehovah’s Witnesses first arrived at Baldwin’s home on Saturday, according to local NBC affiliate KNWA-TV. But when Baldwin learned the men were Jehovah’s Witnesses, he allegedly told them to “get the [expletive] off my property” and said “Get me my 9” as the men were getting into their car, CBS affiliate KFSM-TV reports. Police said they found 13 shell casings and a Springfield XDM-9mm handgun in front of Baldwin’s house, according to KFSM-TV. Baldwin was arrested and released on $50,000 bond. He will be charged with felony aggravated assault, the station notes. Baldwin could be slammed with a $10,000 fine and jailed for six years. Jehovah’s Witnesses are a Christian denomination with about 7.5 million members worldwide. They publish Bibles and Bible literature in nearly 600 languages, and go door to door to spread the gospel of Jesus Christ, who they believe is the son of God and not part of the Trinity. \* Satisfied? :mad:[/Peter’s reply; The way most people i see talking or reacting or inciting the people around themselves is very childlike, it is a reaction that does not fit the reality of the situation. Have it known that when you persecute any of God’s people you are attracting the forces of satan whom are very pleased at seeing a mostly balanced person doing hateful deeds.] ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2013, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witness-haters-are-you-happy-now/670221/655 "2013-12-27T02:22:10Z")
nm ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2013, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witness-haters-are-you-happy-now/670221/656 "2013-12-27T02:33:23Z")
> [@peterhedstrom](#): > > Have it known that when you persecute any of God’s people you are attracting the forces of satan Cool story, bro. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2013, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witness-haters-are-you-happy-now/670221/657 "2013-12-27T02:42:58Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > Cool story, bro. Yes, I was wondering how to attract the forces of Satan. It’s a little cold to be prancing around outside naked at midnight. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2013, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witness-haters-are-you-happy-now/670221/658 "2013-12-27T03:08:07Z")
Bring it! ---
**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2013, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witness-haters-are-you-happy-now/670221/659 "2013-12-27T03:16:40Z")
[Beavis] [YYYessss!](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forces_of_Satan_Records) [/Beavis] ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2013, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witness-haters-are-you-happy-now/670221/660 "2013-12-27T03:18:48Z")
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