# Witness haters--are you happy now? :(

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witness-haters-are-you-happy-now/670221>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 2, 2013, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witness-haters-are-you-happy-now/670221 "2013-10-02T23:02:27Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2014, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witness-haters-are-you-happy-now/670221/981 "2014-07-12T01:41:14Z")

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> So, was your would-be wiki article about zinging comebacks?

I have no idea what caused it. Wikipedia won’t tell me. That’s why I consider it to be libelous. :rolleyes:mad:

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**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2014, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witness-haters-are-you-happy-now/670221/982 "2014-07-12T01:48:34Z")

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It’s probably because the people at Wiki thought you made as much goddamn sense as you do here (i.e., none) and jumped to the perfectly reasonable conclusion you were just screwing with the site.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2014, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witness-haters-are-you-happy-now/670221/983 "2014-07-12T04:40:16Z")

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> [@dougie\_monty](#):
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> Don’t ask that question about ME… 😛

Is the reason you keep avoiding the question about what would constitute a reasonable reparte against you and/or your family because your mother actually is a bitch? That calling her a whore isn’t an insult because she actually is? Because this question has been posed to you multiple times, and you’ve brushed it off as many times as your mom has forgotten the name of the guy who left a $20 on her bedstand.

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**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2014, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witness-haters-are-you-happy-now/670221/984 "2014-07-12T05:45:41Z")

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I hope you have been asking this question with tongue in cheek. Literally this is a serious slur against my mother and I would not be so cruel as to show it to her. Otherwise all I can say is, you have a distorted sense of humor.

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**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2014, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witness-haters-are-you-happy-now/670221/985 "2014-07-12T05:49:17Z")

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> [@faithfool](#):
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> Good luck with this point, **Munch**. I kept trying, but alas I’ve been having more fun beating my head against a wall.

We’ll accompany you on the piano. 😃

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2014, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witness-haters-are-you-happy-now/670221/986 "2014-07-12T05:57:06Z")

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> [@dougie\_monty](#):
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> I hope you have been asking this question with tongue in cheek. Literally this is a serious slur against my mother and I would not be so cruel as to show it to her. Otherwise all I can say is, you have a distorted sense of humor.

Your mother is a bitch to the same extent andros’s mother is.

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**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2014, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witness-haters-are-you-happy-now/670221/987 "2014-07-12T06:05:18Z")

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Fair enough. I’ll accept that. How about it, andros?🙂

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2014, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witness-haters-are-you-happy-now/670221/988 "2014-07-12T12:25:19Z")

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> [@dougie\_monty](#):
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> Fair enough. I’ll accept that. How about it, andros?🙂

Again, you have avoided any responsibility for calling Andros’ mother a bitch, dougie. Man up, it’s just pathetic at this point.

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**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2014, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witness-haters-are-you-happy-now/670221/989 "2014-07-12T15:27:25Z")

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:Sigh: I don’t know what I’m supposed to do to reconcile, Munch  
I’m trying to back off or surrender, and I keep getting attacked  
☹

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2014, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witness-haters-are-you-happy-now/670221/990 "2014-07-12T15:28:01Z")

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> [@Munch](#):
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> Again, you have avoided any responsibility for calling Andros’ mother a bitch, dougie. Man up, it’s just pathetic at this point.

Or deliberate (i.e.: trolling).

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2014, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witness-haters-are-you-happy-now/670221/991 "2014-07-12T15:29:09Z")

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> [@dougie\_monty](#):
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> :Sigh: I don’t know what I’m supposed to do to reconcile, Munch  
> I’m trying to back off or surrender, and I keep getting attacked  
> ☹

Is the phrase “I’m sorry that I called your mother a bitch” in your vocabulary?

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2014, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witness-haters-are-you-happy-now/670221/992 "2014-07-12T15:35:01Z")

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> [@dougie\_monty](#):
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> :Sigh: I don’t know what I’m supposed to do to reconcile, Munch  
> I’m trying to back off or surrender, and I keep getting attacked  
> ☹

A few pages back.

> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#):
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> Alternatively, you could say “You’re right I did say that. Sorry, that was kinda rude”.

Good advice, again

> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> Is the phrase “I’m sorry that I called your mother a bitch” in your vocabulary?

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**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2014, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witness-haters-are-you-happy-now/670221/993 "2014-07-12T15:39:22Z")

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Yes, it is. To andros, I’m sorry that I called your mother a "bitch. " I was wrong. But I still maintain that the mention of the Mozart piece wasn’t right either.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2014, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witness-haters-are-you-happy-now/670221/994 "2014-07-12T15:42:08Z")

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> [@dougie\_monty](#):
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> Yes, it is. To andros, I’m sorry that I called your mother a "bitch. " I was wrong. But I still maintain that the mention of the Mozart piece wasn’t right either.

Translation - “I was wrong, but its your fault”.

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**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2014, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witness-haters-are-you-happy-now/670221/995 "2014-07-12T16:14:48Z")

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Mistranslation. You and I were BOTH at fault.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2014, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witness-haters-are-you-happy-now/670221/996 "2014-07-12T16:22:48Z")

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> [@dougie\_monty](#):
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> Yes, it is. To andros, I’m sorry that I called your mother a "bitch. " I was wrong.

Good work, dougie. Seriously. Apologies can be very hard for people. It did take 167 posts from you to get there, though. But good work.

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> But I still maintain that the mention of the Mozart piece wasn’t right either.

No. The mention of the title of the Mozart piece still remains a [n extremely minor and inoffensive] joke that you already acknowledged that you didn’t get the first time around, resulting in you defaming someone’s mother. Your inability to catch the joke is what caused your insulting behavior (well, that and your insufferably thin skin).

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**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2014, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witness-haters-are-you-happy-now/670221/997 "2014-07-12T16:29:19Z")

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Munch, don’t you think you should allow for the difference between eighteenth - century Austria and twenty-first - century America?

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2014, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witness-haters-are-you-happy-now/670221/998 "2014-07-12T17:51:05Z")

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> [@dougie\_monty](#):
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> Munch, don’t you think you should allow for the difference between eighteenth - century Austria and twenty-first - century America?

You’ve already acknowledged that it was a joke and that you didn’t get it the first time around. Now you’re just making yourself look worse. Let it go.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2014, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witness-haters-are-you-happy-now/670221/999 "2014-07-12T18:06:40Z")

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> [@dougie\_monty](#):
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> I have no idea what caused it. Wikipedia won’t tell me. That’s why I consider it to be libelous. :rolleyes:mad:

Waitaminute, is it libelous when they just say it [_“we consider you to be a sock puppet, so we’re revoking your editing privileges”_] to _you_? Or do they have to tell everybody that?

'Cos if it’s the latter, ISTM that the only one who “libeled” you was _you_… :dubious::smack:

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2014, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witness-haters-are-you-happy-now/670221/1000 "2014-07-12T18:11:59Z")

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> [@Calatin](#):
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> Mozart was a kook? Please explain.

[Hold on now, he may have a point…](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ht30tN0Ahk)

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