# Witness haters--are you happy now? :(

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witness-haters-are-you-happy-now/670221>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 2, 2013, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witness-haters-are-you-happy-now/670221 "2013-10-02T23:02:27Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 14\
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**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2014, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witness-haters-are-you-happy-now/670221/1001 "2014-07-12T19:04:14Z")

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Maybe he could give me one off the top of his head. 😃

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2014, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witness-haters-are-you-happy-now/670221/1002 "2014-07-12T19:27:21Z")

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> [@dougie\_monty](#):
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> Maybe he could give me one off the top of his head. 😃

Man, paying attention just isn’t one of your strong suits, is it?

Let’s review:

> [@dougie\_monty](#):
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> No, he wasn’t vindictive toward anyone. I think he was just a kook.

> [@Calatin](#):
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> Mozart was a kook? Please explain.

> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> [Hold on now, he may have a point…](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ht30tN0Ahk)

You just zinged YOURSELF, ya idjit.

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2014, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witness-haters-are-you-happy-now/670221/1003 "2014-07-12T20:22:37Z")

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> [@dougie\_monty](#):
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> Yes, it is. To andros, I’m sorry that I called your mother a "bitch. " I was wrong.

Accepted without reservation.

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> But I still maintain that the mention of the Mozart piece wasn’t right either.

I understand that, which is why I explained what I was thinking and that no offense was intended, and apologized. But there were a lot of posts flying around at the time; I wouldn’t be surprised that you might have missed it in the scrum.  
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**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2014, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witness-haters-are-you-happy-now/670221/1004 "2014-07-12T20:33:50Z")

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OK, I concede that. Shall we drop the matter now? 🙂

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**Author:** ![bmasters1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b5e925/32.png) [@bmasters1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bmasters1)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witness-haters-are-you-happy-now/670221/1005 "2017-11-20T11:45:56Z")

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> [@CLee](#):
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> and watch television and movies without the looming, invasive, disapproving oversight of judgmental elders.

I’ll probably be rebuked by others here for resurrecting this long-defunct thread to say this, but what you said is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but (at least, IMO)! The part where you said that we want to see television and movies without the disapproving oversight of judgmental elders (the part that I’m quoting) is something that (albeit to a lesser extent now) I’ve been struggling with ever since I hit my head on a doorframe in my bathroom seven years ago. I’m not going to go into details on how it happened, but ever since then (and you’ll likely think I’m crazy for saying this), I’ve been dogged in my mind by a voice that has yelled, “Immoral!”

Believe it or not, this voice has dogged me for seeing stuff on DVD from long past that had much less sexual content and violence than now. Why do I say this? Because, IINM, there are some religious people (maybe televangelists) who not only screech out against all the stuff that’s on now for being too sexual, but also screech out (and have so done) against the medium in general, both past and present, simply for existing (probably because people who are watching and enjoying any kind of television [or who are being entertained in any way] will be going to hell for not constantly being on their knees in prayer to escape this sinful world; worse, they’re not constantly being ready for the Rapture, the last days, the End Times, the tribulation, those sorts of things!).

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**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witness-haters-are-you-happy-now/670221/1006 "2017-11-20T14:19:20Z")

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I see your problem.

That voice is actually saying\*\* “Immortal”\*\*.

It’s telling you that your life’s purpose is to resurrect old threads that should be left for dead. You are to make them immortal.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witness-haters-are-you-happy-now/670221/1007 "2017-11-20T14:57:55Z")

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> [@dougie\_monty](#):
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> OK, I concede that. Shall we drop the matter now? 🙂

Not so fast there!

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**Author:** ![Jennshark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Jennshark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jennshark)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2017, 10:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witness-haters-are-you-happy-now/670221/1008 "2017-11-21T10:36:01Z")

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Ooh, my first contribution to a zombie thread in 12 years!

We tell ’ em we’re Jewish (which is half true) and biscuit-bribe our two pit bulls to slaver at the door.\*

I don’t endorse shooting JWs with bullets, but could BBs be okay? These are The Crazies who let their kids bleed to death when God fails to save ’ em. They also yank their kids around to prosyletize.

\*We’re actually plagued more by candy bar sellers who knock at 9pm and say they’re fundraising for their HS band/football program. No, dude, you’re like 30-years-old. Get off my lawn!! Oh, pit bulls, report for duty! ( The Pitts actually adore people, so bribes to be scary are ineffectual).

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2017, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witness-haters-are-you-happy-now/670221/1009 "2017-11-21T14:36:58Z")

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> [@Jennshark](#):
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> Ooh, my first contribution to a zombie thread in 12 years!
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> We tell ’ em we’re Jewish (which is half true) and biscuit-bribe our two pit bulls to slaver at the door.\*
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> **I don’t endorse shooting JWs with bullets, but could BBs be okay?** These are The Crazies who let their kids bleed to death when God fails to save ’ em. They also yank their kids around to prosyletize.
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> \*We’re actually plagued more by candy bar sellers who knock at 9pm and say they’re fundraising for their HS band/football program. No, dude, you’re like 30-years-old. Get off my lawn!! Oh, pit bulls, report for duty! ( The Pitts actually adore people, so bribes to be scary are ineffectual).

Probably already linked somewhere in the thread but [you use a sword.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=4600087&postcount=31)

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2017, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witness-haters-are-you-happy-now/670221/1010 "2017-11-21T14:41:32Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Probably already linked somewhere in the thread but [you use a sword.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=4600087&postcount=31)

I was just looking for that to post it here! One of my favorite SDMB moments.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2017, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witness-haters-are-you-happy-now/670221/1011 "2017-11-21T15:13:49Z")

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> [@bmasters1](#):
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> ever since I hit my head on a doorframe in my bathroom seven years ago. I’m not going to go into details on how it happened, but ever since then (and you’ll likely think I’m crazy for saying this), I’ve been dogged in my mind by a voice that has yelled, “Immoral!”

Too bad you didn’t hit your head on the sink–you could have invented the flux capacitor.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2017, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witness-haters-are-you-happy-now/670221/1012 "2017-11-22T02:36:41Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Probably already linked somewhere in the thread but [you use a sword.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=4600087&postcount=31)

[And another choice encounter](https://www.craigslist.org/about/best/dal/330728336.html?lang=en&cc=us) with door-to-door proselytizers, from Best of Craigslist.

TL;DR: Guy gets into dogfight with (what else?) his dog, trying to trim its nails, gets clawed up and bloody. Answers door like that to find proselytizers. Scares the shit out of them, they drive off and call the cops.

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**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2017, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witness-haters-are-you-happy-now/670221/1013 "2017-11-22T15:34:31Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Probably already linked somewhere in the thread but [you use a sword.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=4600087&postcount=31)

You know, I just realized that when confronted with door-to-door nuisances, I need to ask myself “WWMWKD\*”?

\*What would Master Wang-Ka Do?

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**Author:** ![Jeff\_Lichtman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jeff_lichtman/32/1531_2.png) [@Jeff\_Lichtman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jeff_Lichtman)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2017, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witness-haters-are-you-happy-now/670221/1014 "2017-11-22T20:01:02Z")

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> [@bldysabba](#):
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> I don’t get it. What if he intentionally shot in the air, nowhere near them? Would that still be an offence?

Of course it would. Threatening people with a firearm is assault, even if you don’t shoot them. Firing a weapon in an urban area is also a crime in most circumstances.

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