Physician, heal thyself.
I’m sorry - it wasn’t a very cogent point and it was not germane to the topic.
What with you talking about individual motivations vs the topic (at the time) was the way a cult operates -
Until you can keep up with the conversation, you’ll always find yourself on the wrong end of it.
Conversation? I feel more like I am facing Star Chamber proceedings…
Which is one of your many problems - as has been noted before - its also a sign of cult indoctrination - “everyone is against me/us for my/our beliefs - thats how we know we’re right” -
Oh, ffs. You see persecution everywhere because you’ve decided you’re being persecuted, not the other way around.
Don’t put words in my mouth. If I were to seize on any religion, philosophy, etc., with which you are affiliated and start in on you the way you have done to me, you would cry foul for sure.
I’m a utilitarian. Give me your best shot.
Bang.
This is the kind of onomatopoeic oppressive bullshit up with which I shall not put, sir.
Dougie Monty banged Revenant Threshold.
Oh halp. People are criticizing me on the INTRAWEBS!!! OH NOOOOS!!! Exaggerate, much?
Get over it.
I have a sign on my door that say “We do not want to convert to your religion. Really. No matter what it is.” Works great.
As for JWs, I’ll take the same tack that fundies take with gay people: it’s not who they are, it’s what they do that I dislike. I don’t hate the JW, per se. I hate people knocking on my door when I’m eating dinner/peeing/reading The Straight Dope/folding laundry and watching Law & Order reruns/playing Legos with my son, etc. I don’t like it when they want to sell me something, I don’t like it when it’s the woman downstairs trying to borrow money, and I don’t like it when it’s Jehovah’s minions.
I don’t mind when it’s someone with a package, but they are usually just as happy as I am to keep the exchange brief.
This gives me a great idea; totally buff JWs wearing just vests and tear-away pants. It would probably increase the rate they get into people’s houses. “Would you like a copy of the Watchtower, with my number in it?”
I was once approached at a bus stop by the most gorgeous female Jehovah’s Witness I’ve ever seen. I’m not going to lie; I thought about it. “I could live without birthday presents…”
If you were actually able to cite relevant facts and hold an intelligent conversation, I would be impressed - as it stands, you don’t even know your own religion well enough to defend it.
But go for it - I’m an atheist.
Thank you, Mr. Churchill. 
à la Dwight Stones? or: “The bear went over the mountain” (not in the scatological sense).
Absolutely not. I remember one man who said at the door, “I’m an atheist and I don’t want to argue.” I let it go at that and left. … Just what “facts” are you saying I don’t know?
Re-Read this thread - I pointed out several things you were apparently unaware of - or are you just willfully ignorant?
United Church of Canada by allegiance, atheist/agnostic by belief (I am not going to debate whether I am atheist or agnostic; it gives me a headache). I would just laugh myself silly if you tried.
That sounds academic to me; I wouldn’t try to guess–I am not clairvoyant, either.