No, he wasn’t vindictive toward anyone. I think he was just a kook.
Mozart was a kook? Please explain.
‘takes one to know one’
Dunno about kook.[sup]*[/sup] But I’ve read the Bäsle letters. Homeboy was a player.
[sup]*[/sup]Lol jk. The guy was a kook. A sexy, awesome, genius kook.
So, was your would-be wiki article about zinging comebacks?
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Mozarts mom had a loud bark for insulting dougie_monty.
He’s also a son of a bitch for writing letters about his shits and farts to his mom.
If Mozart did that he was as kooky and immature as the movie “Amadeus” made him out to be. And after seeing the movie I asked some music professors at my college–and they said the same thing about him.
dougie, can I ask in what situation you think it would be appropriate for someone to call YOUR mom a bitch? What action do you think you would have to take for it to be justified?
Dude, you called someone else’s mom a bitch. Your indigation is ill-founded.
Other people are real too, you know.
Mozart wasn’t as kooky and immature as the movie Amadeus made him out to be. Amadeus is, as Peter Schafer has repeatedly said, not actually about the real Mozart and Salieri, but uses them as a metaphor to ask questions about free will, divine grace, and the relationship between man and God.
The real life Mozart wasn’t all that kooky, really. He did, however, have an earthy sense of humor, and enjoyed jokes about things like, to be euphemistic, bathroom matters. The song referred to earlier (“Lick my Ass”), was a private joke he wrote for his friends, and he probably never intended it to get general publication. If you’re curious, here’s the song sung:
The thing is, terms like the ones Mozart used really weren’t uncommon among 18th century Germans. There was a lot more tolerance of jokes like that, even in polite society, than there would be today. In fact, one of the stock comedic characters in German popular theater in the 16th, 17th and 18th century was a guy named Hans Wurst…Hans the Sausage, and almost all of his jokes were either sex jokes or poop jokes.
The point being, Mozart’s letters wouldn’t have been seen as strange at the time. We see it as strange, mostly because, first, we’re in a culture that’s more private than Mozart’s, and secondly, because we’ve elevated Mozart to “high culture”, and it doesn’t fit with our image of what a composer of classical music “should be”.
Of course, the actual Mozart was just a guy, who, except for being extremely musically talented, was fairly normal, if not a particularly good financial planner. He loved his family; his parents, his sister, his wife and his kids. He liked gossip. He could have a temper and didn’t have very much patience for people who annoyed him. He was a devout Catholic. He constantly lived beyond his means, and part of the reason that he was so prolific was that he was constantly trying to work his way out of debt. He was vain about his hair. He played pool. He liked animals and had a bunch of pets.
In short, he’s a historical figure now, but when he was alive, he was just a person, with a bunch of positive and negative qualities, just like everybody else has.
I am so stealing that. (My mom’s not fat, though. Quite the opposite.)
How many do you have now?
Nicely summarized, Cap, thanks!
Everything I’ve read of Wolfie suggests a very human, deeply brilliant, and terribly insecure man, prone to mood swings and overcompensation. I’ve known a lot of people like that.
I just finished re-reading Landon’s 1791, by the by. I highly recommend it to biography nerds, music buffs, and Mozart fanbois.
Good luck with this point, Munch. I kept trying, but alas I’ve been having more fun beating my head against a wall.
So, calling someone’s mom a bitch is a-okay.
Saying “Kiss my ass!” or the Germanic equivalent causes paroxysms.
How about saying, “Your mom can kiss my ass!”
Which way will he go, George? Which way will he go?
Thank you! This is the best thing to come out of this whole doggone thread!
(I have an old LP, “The Comic Mozart,” which has several such snippets and tiny treasurers. One of the funniest is a “music lesson,” where two students and the music master sing a travesty in three parts: the master keeps interrupting, the students keep messing up; and the whole thing collapses in chaos. But…you know…if you aren’t paying fairly close attention, it sounds like an ordinary and quite nice three-voice piece.
To really hammer the point home, there’s “The Musical Joke.”
I Dont care what anyone says Thats probably what happened and I dont think it shoulld be a crime and if so intimidation at most…Sorry about spellinngg cellphone messed up…
Don’t ask that question about ME… 