# "Witness"

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witness/30801>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [August 26, 2000, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witness/30801 "2000-08-26T04:03:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 2

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**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2000, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witness/30801/21 "2000-08-27T18:51:27Z")

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Reminder that brand of thread to which current poster is posting has been done and was featured in “threadspotting” . . . current poster tempted to post URL of pit thread discussing what poster is mosting right now, reluctance to do so as it will probably weaken his case.

Realization that nobody knows or cares what current poster is posting about, and resignment that poster is wasting poster’s time when poster could be eating and not typing the word “poster” until poster is hit with full beer bottles being launched at poster.

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**Author:** ![Surgoshan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Surgoshan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Surgoshan)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2000, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witness/30801/22 "2000-08-27T19:20:38Z")

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Irreverent agnostic poster tells everyone they might be right but they can never prove it so they might as well have a beer.

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**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2000, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witness/30801/23 "2000-08-27T19:52:51Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Surgoshan \*  
> \*\*Irreverent agnostic poster tells everyone they might be right but they can never prove it so they might as well have a beer. \*\*

Annoying reminder that previous poster does not DRINK BEER! Arg, and would poster in question please stop suggesting it already, as previous poster, once again, does not DRINK BEER! Arg, and would . . .

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**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2000, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witness/30801/24 "2000-08-27T20:09:25Z")

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Third post from previous poster wondering aloud why thread to which poster is posting hasn’t yet gotten to MPSIMS.

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**Author:** ![Triskadecamus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b19c9b/32.png) [@Triskadecamus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Triskadecamus)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2000, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witness/30801/25 "2000-08-27T20:42:05Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Tzel \*  
> \*\*Assertion that the truth will only be revealed after you believe, so non-Christians are actually deceived and unable to understand the airtight logic of Christianity.
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> Book of the Bible chapter:verse “Bible Quote”\*\*

Explanation to poster that a portion of a truth is not a truth. Admonition to poster that uncharitable characterizations are his own, and should not be attributed to Deity. Request to poster to seek to live his faith more, and describe it less.

Admonition to others that no one speaks on behalf of Deity, only on behalf of self.

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Self referential comment from near ancestor

Attribution of same.

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**Author:** ![Mockingbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c68b51/32.png) [@Mockingbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mockingbird)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2000, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witness/30801/26 "2000-08-27T20:51:21Z")

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Irreverant suggestion that ‘What Would Jesus Do’ is outmoded and the real question is: [What Would Endora Do?](http://www.hastur.com/wwed)

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**Author:** ![jmullaney](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/85e7bf/32.png) [@jmullaney](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jmullaney)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2000, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witness/30801/27 "2000-08-27T22:31:33Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Triskadecamus \*  
> Cautions all that personal opinions on theological matters are not binding upon deity.

Interjects haphazardly with a reminder that there is one truth.

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> Proposes that love is a good thing, whether holy or profane.

Proposes that all love is holy and only that which is not love is profane.

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> Questions the logical nature of faith, and the subsequent futility of examining it with such tools.

Agreement that reason and love are mutually exclusive realms.

Sig line reminding everyone I don’t believe anything I just said.

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**Author:** ![yosemite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/3ab097/32.png) [@yosemite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yosemite)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2000, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witness/30801/28 "2000-08-28T19:18:39Z")

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Slightly befuddled comment about how they assumed this thread was discussing a Harrison Ford film about the Amish, after reading the thread title.  
Wally sig.

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**Author:** ![John\_Corrado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a88e4f/32.png) [@John\_Corrado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Corrado)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2000, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witness/30801/29 "2000-08-28T19:55:34Z")

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Sarcastic comment made based upon two contradictory sentences made in the OP. Snide statement.

Praise of Triskademus for his positions and viewpoints.

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Poster’s Initials

Self-referential sig line

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**Author:** ![SeatTime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9bcb4/32.png) [@SeatTime](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SeatTime)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2000, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witness/30801/30 "2000-08-29T21:56:01Z")

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Relative newbie enters thread a full day after it has died.  
Reiterates posts of several others, but adds nothing new because of low board-esteem.  
Wonders why the hell this is in GD.

Double entendre sig references candy, and its possible long-term ill affects concerning quality.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2000, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witness/30801/31 "2000-08-29T22:12:51Z")

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Disagreement.

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**Author:** ![Jodi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@Jodi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jodi)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2000, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witness/30801/32 "2000-08-29T22:21:07Z")

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Check in to confirm that topic has been done to death numerous times before. Find that nothing new is being said by either side. Wistfully wish that Polycarp would appear to pour oil on the waters. Consider posting links to the upteen identical threads. Decide it’s too much work. Wonder if there’s a good thread on a naughty topic in MPSIMS. Go have beer with Surgoshan.

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**Author:** ![Stuffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f17d59/32.png) [@Stuffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stuffy)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2000, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witness/30801/33 "2000-08-29T22:29:22Z")

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Wonders yet again why Lib post as he does

Notes good actions of atheist are equivalent to good actions of theist

Finally gets up the nerve to ask about the butterflies, changes mind.

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Obcure “Simpsons” quote from special guest of NBC series made to another member of same NBC series whos a semi-regular of aforementioned TV show.

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**Author:** ![Triskadecamus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b19c9b/32.png) [@Triskadecamus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Triskadecamus)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2000, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witness/30801/34 "2000-08-30T05:57:29Z")

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> \*Originally posted by stuffinb \*  
> \*\*Wonders yet again why Lib post as he does  
> Finally gets up the nerve to ask about the butterflies, changes mind.  
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Assures stuffinb that butterflies are an unimportant eccentricity to which replies are unnecessary in fora on any subject. Fondly recalls the tolerance of the regular Great Debaters for such nonsense in the past.

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Self referential comment from near ancestor

Attribution of same.

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**Author:** ![Gaudere](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e495f1/32.png) [@Gaudere](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gaudere)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2000, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witness/30801/35 "2000-08-30T06:10:15Z")

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Assurance that butterflies are welcome, it is simply that poster cannot bring him/herself to overcome trained inclination to simply watch them flutter by rather than pin them down and take their wings off.

Semi-serious accusation of post-padding directed towards Libertarian.

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Amusing proof of contradictory deity.

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2000, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witness/30801/36 "2000-08-30T06:25:20Z")

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Rehashing of thread, often word for word.

Twice.

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Strangely relevant .sig quote

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**Author:** ![The\_Asbestos\_Mango](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@The\_Asbestos\_Mango](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Asbestos_Mango)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2000, 8:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witness/30801/37 "2000-08-30T08:25:14Z")

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Observation that “Christians” of OP’s ilk give Christainity a bad name

Question as to why theistic evolutionists don’t weigh in on the Creation/Evolution debate

Comment that OPster wouldn’t consider current poster to be a Christian because she is Catholic.

URL for Jack Chick’s Website

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**Author:** ![Spider\_Woman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cdc98d/32.png) [@Spider\_Woman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spider_Woman)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2000, 11:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witness/30801/38 "2000-08-30T11:00:42Z")

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Agreement with his disagreement addressed to Libertarian.

More practice with smilies.

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**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2000, 11:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witness/30801/39 "2000-08-30T11:09:30Z")

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reply to question about descartes after reading first 5 posts and forgettiong about the rest of the thread.

witty comment about Monty Python and Descartes.

Hi Opal!

signature.

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**Author:** ![Cardinal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardinal/32/4000_2.png) [@Cardinal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardinal)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2000, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witness/30801/40 "2000-09-02T00:15:38Z")

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Well, considering this thread has pretty much died, and since it’s “my” thread, I thought I’d make one last note:

See, some of us “born-agains” do get it. I hope this thread has demonstrated such.

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