# WMD found and were ready to fire. Neener Neener Neener!! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 7, 2003, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wmd-found-and-were-ready-to-fire-neener-neener-neener/167111 "2003-04-07T17:50:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2003, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wmd-found-and-were-ready-to-fire-neener-neener-neener/167111/241 "2003-04-10T20:30:16Z")
Worldnetdaily gets most of their news from other news broadcasts, including Foxnews. They are doing more of their own reporting now as they grow, but i wouldn’t call them an independent confirmation of the report just yet (unless they have people in Iraq, which i don’t think they do, but i could be wrong) ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2003, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wmd-found-and-were-ready-to-fire-neener-neener-neener/167111/242 "2003-04-10T20:46:44Z")
It is strange though, I’ve only seen that report on those two links, nowhere else. ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2003, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wmd-found-and-were-ready-to-fire-neener-neener-neener/167111/243 "2003-04-10T20:53:09Z")
does the Tribune-Review have a website? ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2003, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wmd-found-and-were-ready-to-fire-neener-neener-neener/167111/244 "2003-04-10T21:13:01Z")
[http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/tribune-review/](http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/tribune-review/) ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2003, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wmd-found-and-were-ready-to-fire-neener-neener-neener/167111/245 "2003-04-10T21:16:50Z")
Ok, 3 now. Still you think CNN would be all over this. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2003, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wmd-found-and-were-ready-to-fire-neener-neener-neener/167111/246 "2003-04-10T21:28:58Z")
Hasn’t the “snitch factor” occured to you guys yet? If there are several sites, my case gets stronger. But lets say there is just the one, everything was done there, it’s secret, its hidden, no way the inspectors are ever ever going to just “find” it. It has to be ratted out, somebody has to tell. Now lets stretch a point: lets say that nobody got the chance to rat out Saddam and cash in during all these months. Really a stretch, that one, all one has to do is get to a border, or even into Kurd controlled Iraq and pick up the phone. But out of the hundreds of guys who would have to be in a position to know, and would simply love to pick up a “green card” and God only knows how much money…it didn’t happen. Saddam scares them too much, intelligence apparatus is too efficient, something like that. But now all of that is kaput. Poof! Gone. Rumsfeld is on tv, telling these guys, hey, come forward, there are Big Rewards to be had, rat him out today and cash in big! And still nothing… ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2003, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wmd-found-and-were-ready-to-fire-neener-neener-neener/167111/247 "2003-04-10T21:35:06Z")
Didn’t think of that, good point. ---
**Author:** ![Jdeforrest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/49beb7/32.png) [@Jdeforrest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jdeforrest)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2003, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wmd-found-and-were-ready-to-fire-neener-neener-neener/167111/248 "2003-04-10T22:36:06Z")
Just to add to this -\>[Soldiers may have found a mobile lab](http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,83845,00.html) ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2003, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wmd-found-and-were-ready-to-fire-neener-neener-neener/167111/249 "2003-04-10T23:59:15Z")
I thought this might be of some interest. [U.S. Nuke Find Claim in Iraq Critiqued](http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=540&e=10&u=/ap/20030410/ap_on_re_mi_ea/war_nuclear_find_2) ---
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2003, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wmd-found-and-were-ready-to-fire-neener-neener-neener/167111/250 "2003-04-11T06:41:48Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by davidm \* > [U.S. Nuke Find Claim in Iraq Critiqued](http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=540&e=10&u=/ap/20030410/ap_on_re_mi_ea/war_nuclear_find_2) If this is true, then the U.S. forces who found the site need a big fat :smack: And $5 says Faux News won’t say boo about this – can’t distract from the breathless “smoking gun” discoveries, don’cha know. ---
**Author:** ![Desmostylus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@Desmostylus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Desmostylus)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2003, 6:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wmd-found-and-were-ready-to-fire-neener-neener-neener/167111/251 "2003-04-11T06:53:35Z")
[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,83867,00.html](http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,83867,00.html) > [@](#): > > American troops who suggested they uncovered evidence of an active nuclear weapons program in Iraq unwittingly may have stumbled across known stocks of low-grade uranium, officials said Thursday. They said the U.S. troops may have broken U.N. seals meant to keep control of the radioactive material. You owe me five bucks, **rjung**. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2003, 8:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wmd-found-and-were-ready-to-fire-neener-neener-neener/167111/252 "2003-04-11T08:13:07Z")
OK, this bothers me. > [@](#): > > Lt. Cmdr. Charles Owens, a spokesman for the U.S. Central Command, said officials there have not heard anything through military channels about a Marine inspection at Tuwaitha. > > \<\<\\>\> > But an expert familiar with U.N. nuclear inspections… " the expert said, speaking on condition of anonymity. So, officials don’t yet know _what_ they found, and an expert wants to talk about it, but doesn’t want to be named. Personally, I think this speaks very ill for the state of the news organizations. They want to be 1st a hell of a lot more than they want to be right. IMO, being quick to report and being wrong is counter-productive. Maybe it is what they say, maybe it isn’t. There’s no way can know with any degree of certainty _today_, so why not wait till we know a little bit more before reporting it. ---
**Author:** ![Jdeforrest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/49beb7/32.png) [@Jdeforrest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jdeforrest)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2003, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wmd-found-and-were-ready-to-fire-neener-neener-neener/167111/253 "2003-04-11T11:33:20Z")
A couple things bother me about this. 1. You would think that the IAEA seals would be clearly marked and pretty hard to miss. 2. There is all this radioactive waste and nobody tells nobody? How bout a heads up like, "Hey guys, you might wanna watch that room under the Al Tuwaitha complex since it has deadly levels of radioactivity. 3. The 91’ inspector didn’t know anything about an underground complex but it’s supposed to be old hat say’s the current inspector. Something doesn’t smell right to me. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2003, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wmd-found-and-were-ready-to-fire-neener-neener-neener/167111/254 "2003-04-11T13:44:12Z")
Just a side question, when they say ‘seals’ what exactly do they mean? Are these physical things? ---
**Author:** ![Jdeforrest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/49beb7/32.png) [@Jdeforrest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jdeforrest)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2003, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wmd-found-and-were-ready-to-fire-neener-neener-neener/167111/255 "2003-04-11T14:22:35Z")
I came up with this when I did a seach -\>[iaea seals](http://www.iaea.or.at/worldatom/Press/News/31012002_news01.shtml) ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2003, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wmd-found-and-were-ready-to-fire-neener-neener-neener/167111/256 "2003-04-11T14:40:25Z")
So is that the same thing I see on my new boxers? A “inspected by #12” sticker so to speak? If that’s the case, why would the army remove them, and what effect would ‘peeling the sticker off’ have? Screw up the paperwork? ---
**Author:** ![xenophon41](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xenophon41/32/253_2.png) [@xenophon41](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xenophon41)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2003, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wmd-found-and-were-ready-to-fire-neener-neener-neener/167111/257 "2003-04-11T15:07:04Z")
> [@](#): > > So is that the same thing I see on my new boxers? A “inspected by #12” sticker so to speak? > > If that’s the case, why would the army remove them, and what effect would ‘peeling the sticker off’ have? It’s more like the kind of seal used to indicate tampering; the seal must be broken in order to gain entry to a container or storage facility/area. A broken seal would indicate to an inspector the possibility that some material had been removed subsequent to the last inspection. The seals are used only to verify that the entity in control of inventoried material has not removed (or added to) it. The seals don’t actually safeguard anything, just act as markers. ---
**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2003, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wmd-found-and-were-ready-to-fire-neener-neener-neener/167111/258 "2003-04-11T16:26:57Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Jdeforrest \* > \*\*I came up with this when I did a seach -\>[iaea seals](http://www.iaea.or.at/worldatom/Press/News/31012002_news01.shtml) \*\* Silly me, I had the [wrong idea altogether](http://www.eskie.net/superior/seals/). 😛 😉 Although atomc seals would be pretty terrifying to face, wouldn’t they? ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2003, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wmd-found-and-were-ready-to-fire-neener-neener-neener/167111/259 "2003-04-11T18:00:13Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Weirddave \* > \*\*Silly me, I had the [wrong idea altogether](http://www.eskie.net/superior/seals/). 😛 😉 > > Although atomc seals would be pretty terrifying to face, wouldn’t they? \*\* How come there were no atomic seals in Godzilla movies? Thanks **Xeno** , makes perfect sense. /end hijack ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2003, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wmd-found-and-were-ready-to-fire-neener-neener-neener/167111/260 "2003-04-11T18:05:18Z")
[A little more info.](http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20030411/ap_on_re_mi_ea/war_iraq_nuclear_find&cid=540&ncid=1473) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wmd-found-and-were-ready-to-fire-neener-neener-neener/167111.md?page=12) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wmd-found-and-were-ready-to-fire-neener-neener-neener/167111.md?page=14)