# WMD found and were ready to fire. Neener Neener Neener!! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 7, 2003, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wmd-found-and-were-ready-to-fire-neener-neener-neener/167111 "2003-04-07T17:50:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![CRorex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dfb087/32.png) [@CRorex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CRorex)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2003, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wmd-found-and-were-ready-to-fire-neener-neener-neener/167111/21 "2003-04-07T18:52:50Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Mandelstam \* > \*\*_"It’s more of a “we’re right and you guys listened to the French” situation I believe. > "_ > > Please provide cite for the French saying that they had positive proof that no WMDs were in existence. \*\* Umm hello sarcasm? Anyway, it’s just more desperation in justifying the war. ---
**Author:** ![Binarydrone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3da27b/32.png) [@Binarydrone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Binarydrone)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2003, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wmd-found-and-were-ready-to-fire-neener-neener-neener/167111/22 "2003-04-07T18:54:13Z")
[Anyone want a list on Communists?](http://www.apl.org/history/mccarthy/committee_hearing.html) ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2003, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wmd-found-and-were-ready-to-fire-neener-neener-neener/167111/23 "2003-04-07T18:55:48Z")
“Lotta entertainment for five grand” – Elliot Gould, _The Long Goodbye_ Pardon me for interrupting while the pros and antis once again smack each other with 2 x 4s, but could we not have a moratorium on the “WMD!!! I told you so!!!” threads until a given story has sat around for at least 24 hours? I mean, the ever faster pace of claims and retractions is getting to be comical. Personally, the BM-21 story looks fairly solid to me, but, as others have said, possession of chemical weapons by Iraq does not automatically justify this war (guess now I’ll have to ward off a few of those 2 x 4’s myself). ---
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2003, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wmd-found-and-were-ready-to-fire-neener-neener-neener/167111/24 "2003-04-07T18:58:42Z")
Wake me up when it’s verified that this latest discovery is really WMDs – between the chemical arms factories (abandoned), the white powder (explosives), the toxic barrel (pesticides), and all the other we-found-something-odd-so-we’re-screaming-ANTHRAX! news reports that’s come out of this war, I don’t know what bullshit accusation I’m supposed to believe today any more… ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2003, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wmd-found-and-were-ready-to-fire-neener-neener-neener/167111/25 "2003-04-07T18:59:06Z")
**Tars** , did you know that sort of thing [has happened](http://www.thisisbristol.com/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=86419&command=displayContent&sourceNode=86416&contentPK=4816571)? ---
**Author:** ![RexDart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@RexDart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RexDart)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2003, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wmd-found-and-were-ready-to-fire-neener-neener-neener/167111/26 "2003-04-07T19:00:37Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Tars Tarkas \* > \*\* > BTW, we illegally invaded a sovereign nation on no evidence and turned thousands of Arabs into terrorists who want us all dead, increasing the amount of terror attacks on our soil. Neener Neener Neener!! Maybe your stupid wargasms and duck tape will save you from nuclear fire. \*\* I’m planning to hide under my desk. As everyone knows, desks in law schools, in addition to having those kickass swivel chairs, are also impervious to beta particles. Unfortunately for us, we’re never going to do the one thing that would prevent us from dying in nuclear fire, which is leave _all_ other countries the fuck alone. ---
**Author:** ![FranticMad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c68b51/32.png) [@FranticMad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FranticMad)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2003, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wmd-found-and-were-ready-to-fire-neener-neener-neener/167111/27 "2003-04-07T19:02:10Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Stinkpalm \* > \*\*Put that in your pipe and smoke it. > Fucking peaceniks. \*\* Classic idiocy. The absence of WMD is not the only reason to oppose the war. The presence of WMD is not the only reason to support the war. The OP reduces the arguments on both sides down to a single issue. The simple-mindedness of the OP is breath-taking. It’s all attitude, with a distinct lack of intelligence. Polarized whining like this is for the weak-minded. ---
**Author:** ![bluetrust](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e7dd6/32.png) [@bluetrust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bluetrust)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2003, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wmd-found-and-were-ready-to-fire-neener-neener-neener/167111/28 "2003-04-07T19:02:39Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Mandelstam \* > \*\*_"It’s more of a “we’re right and you guys listened to the French” situation I believe. > "_ > > Please provide cite for the French saying that they had positive proof that no WMDs were in existence. \*\* This right here is fucking stupid. How do you prove that something doesn’t exist? Does this make sense to anyone? God damn these fucking political elitists who can’t even put a sentence together without looking like an idiot. ---
**Author:** ![Binarydrone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3da27b/32.png) [@Binarydrone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Binarydrone)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2003, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wmd-found-and-were-ready-to-fire-neener-neener-neener/167111/29 "2003-04-07T19:02:51Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by RexDart \* > \*\*…Unfortunately for us, we’re never going to do the one thing that would prevent us from dying in nuclear fire, which is leave _all_ other countries the fuck alone. \*\* That’s just crazy enough to work! ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2003, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wmd-found-and-were-ready-to-fire-neener-neener-neener/167111/30 "2003-04-07T19:03:02Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Jeff Olsen \* > \*\ ***Tars** , did you know that sort of thing [has happened](http://www.thisisbristol.com/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=86419&command=displayContent&sourceNode=86416&contentPK=4816571)? \*\* That’s a shame. It’s scary when my ridiculus blow ups of premises turn out to be true. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2003, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wmd-found-and-were-ready-to-fire-neener-neener-neener/167111/31 "2003-04-07T19:04:29Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Finagle \* > \*\*Don’t know what to tell you except that it’s OK to be skeptical but when the evidence mounts to a certain point, you do have to let it go. \*\* Yeah, well, we got awhile until we get to that point. ---
**Author:** ![Mandelstam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Mandelstam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mandelstam)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2003, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wmd-found-and-were-ready-to-fire-neener-neener-neener/167111/32 "2003-04-07T19:05:08Z")
_“Umm hello sarcasm?”_ Not sarcasm at all **CR**. So far as I know (and I read numerous articles on the subject and listened to the UN speeches) the French took the position that no WMDs _thus far_ had been found and that the inspection process was working. Hence, no imminent threat and, therefore, no need for a US-led rush to war. In other words the same position held by most anti-war folk (myself included) on these boards. At no point–so far ask I know–did the French say: and we also believe that if inspections are halted now and a war commenced forthwith that there is 0 possibility that some WMDs might not be found. Once again, same position held by most anti-war folk (myself included) on these boards. It boggles my mind how many times this point has to be made in each and every thread on this subject. Is there something about the pro-war mentality that includes either obtuseness, a love of fighting strawmen, or both? ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2003, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wmd-found-and-were-ready-to-fire-neener-neener-neener/167111/33 "2003-04-07T19:05:14Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Tars Tarkas \* > \*\*fuck that. I got evidence you are a child pornographer. I just can’t show anyone, because of security reasons. But look at this photo of a truck. The truck could be carrying child porn to your house! You must be arrested immediatly, you CHILD PORNOGRAPHER! Who cares if there are real child pornographers running around out there, i say you are one, so we must attack IMMEDIATLY! \*\* **Tars Tarkas** in 2004! **Tars Tarkas** in 2004! ---
**Author:** ![Beagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/85f322/32.png) [@Beagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beagle)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2003, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wmd-found-and-were-ready-to-fire-neener-neener-neener/167111/34 "2003-04-07T19:05:55Z")
_holds breath_ Is the missile story holding up? This is the first really intersting smoking gun story I’ve heard in a while. Finding gas masks being the lamest. ---
**Author:** ![Binarydrone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3da27b/32.png) [@Binarydrone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Binarydrone)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2003, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wmd-found-and-were-ready-to-fire-neener-neener-neener/167111/35 "2003-04-07T19:08:56Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Mandelstam \* > [B…Is there something about the pro-war mentality that includes either obtuseness, a love of fighting strawmen, or both? \*\* So, like, you are saying that there is 0% chance that there are WMD, right? And even if there are, they don’t matter, right? And that you love Saddam, hate America and turn a blind eye to human rights abuses, right? ---
**Author:** ![Mandelstam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Mandelstam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mandelstam)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2003, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wmd-found-and-were-ready-to-fire-neener-neener-neener/167111/36 "2003-04-07T19:11:33Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by bluetrust \* > \*\*This right here is fucking stupid. How do you prove that something doesn’t exist? Does this make sense to anyone? > > God damn these fucking political elitists who can’t even put a sentence together without looking like an idiot. \*\* **bluetrust** , I asked for a cite on the French position on WMDs, which most certainly exists. It exists in hundreds of articles, and transcripts of speeches. I believe the poster to whom I was responding to have misrepresented the actual French position. As you apparently have trouble following a simple sequence of discussion in the English language, and since nothing else about you stikes me as appealing, may I suggest that you go post somewhere else on the Internet? There _are_ unmoderated message boards where people are free to make fools of themselves without anyone really noticing. Here at the SDMB, the bar may be set a little lower in the Pit, but you show signs of falling well beneath it. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2003, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wmd-found-and-were-ready-to-fire-neener-neener-neener/167111/37 "2003-04-07T19:12:52Z")
If anyone can keep us updated with news as well, I can’t seem to find shit on anything. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Sauron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce7236/32.png) [@Sauron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sauron)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2003, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wmd-found-and-were-ready-to-fire-neener-neener-neener/167111/38 "2003-04-07T19:14:27Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by RexDart \* > Unfortunately for us, we’re never going to do the one thing that would prevent us from dying in nuclear fire, which is leave _all_ other countries the fuck alone. Yeah, that isolationist policy really helped keep us out of World War II, didn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2003, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wmd-found-and-were-ready-to-fire-neener-neener-neener/167111/39 "2003-04-07T19:17:57Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Binarydrone \* > \*\*So, like, you are saying that there is 0% chance that there are WMD, right? And even if there are, they don’t matter, right? And that you love Saddam, hate America and turn a blind eye to human rights abuses, right? \*\* No, I think he was saying that he’s a Hitler-loving queer. But that’s pretty close. Daniel ---
**Author:** ![Binarydrone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3da27b/32.png) [@Binarydrone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Binarydrone)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2003, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wmd-found-and-were-ready-to-fire-neener-neener-neener/167111/40 "2003-04-07T19:19:05Z")
As a total aside; Can we Lefties agree to stop comparing things to Vietnam and you Righties agree to stop comparing them to World War II? Thanks ever so… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wmd-found-and-were-ready-to-fire-neener-neener-neener/167111.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wmd-found-and-were-ready-to-fire-neener-neener-neener/167111.md?page=3)