# WND: Put down the tofu, honey, it'll only make you gay.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wnd-put-down-the-tofu-honey-itll-only-make-you-gay/383861>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 12, 2006, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wnd-put-down-the-tofu-honey-itll-only-make-you-gay/383861 "2006-12-12T19:51:22Z")\
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**Author:** ![stpauler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@stpauler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stpauler)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2006, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wnd-put-down-the-tofu-honey-itll-only-make-you-gay/383861/1 "2006-12-12T19:51:22Z")

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I’m not sure if I should be furious or completely amused. I choose amurious.

[A devil food is turning our kids into homosexuals](http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53327)

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> Soy is feminizing, and commonly leads to a decrease in the size of the penis, sexual confusion and homosexuality. That’s why most of the medical (not socio-spiritual) blame for today’s rise in homosexuality must fall upon the rise in soy formula and other soy products. (Most babies are bottle-fed during some part of their infancy, and one-fourth of them are getting soy milk!) Homosexuals often argue that their homosexuality is inborn because “I can’t remember a time when I wasn’t homosexual.” No, homosexuality is always deviant. But now many of them can truthfully say that they can’t remember a time when excess estrogen wasn’t influencing them.

I feel like saying things like “Well, how does that explain lesbians?” or “if a mom just had a little mock duck when pregnant with her son would that make him just bisexual?” but this whole thing seems to defy any scintilla of logic.

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**Author:** ![Terrifel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@Terrifel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terrifel)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2006, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wnd-put-down-the-tofu-honey-itll-only-make-you-gay/383861/2 "2006-12-12T20:00:00Z")

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At last we have an explanation for the inexplicably low fertility rates of Asian nations.

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**Author:** ![Terrifel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@Terrifel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terrifel)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2006, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wnd-put-down-the-tofu-honey-itll-only-make-you-gay/383861/3 "2006-12-12T20:01:13Z")

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PS. Gah. :smack:

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**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2006, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wnd-put-down-the-tofu-honey-itll-only-make-you-gay/383861/4 "2006-12-12T20:06:49Z")

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ANOTHER **Weapons of Nass Destruction** thread???  
C’mon **stpauler** , at least have the courtesy to run the title through a spelling checker before posting. 😉

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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2006, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wnd-put-down-the-tofu-honey-itll-only-make-you-gay/383861/5 "2006-12-12T20:14:09Z")

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I used to read WND daily, but when they started on their kick of Harry Potter = Satanism I lost interest and respect.

Who is James Rutz, other than the Chairman of Megashift Ministries?

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2006, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wnd-put-down-the-tofu-honey-itll-only-make-you-gay/383861/6 "2006-12-12T20:27:32Z")

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Soy is Evil, Sick and Nasty, it’s true. But I think this is stretching it a bit.

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**Author:** ![stpauler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@stpauler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stpauler)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2006, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wnd-put-down-the-tofu-honey-itll-only-make-you-gay/383861/7 "2006-12-12T20:31:29Z")

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[QUOTE=ivylass]

Who is James Rutz, other than the Chairman of Megashift Ministries?  
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[Jim Rutz](http://www.jimrutz.com/)

He’s got an autobiography there which, among other things, talks about his 12 years working for Amway. 'nuff said.

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**Author:** ![Ponder\_Stibbons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponder_stibbons/32/343_2.png) [@Ponder\_Stibbons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponder_Stibbons)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2006, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wnd-put-down-the-tofu-honey-itll-only-make-you-gay/383861/8 "2006-12-12T20:32:03Z")

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I’ve eaten tofu for years and it hasn’t made _me_ gay.  
Ooooh, silenus, you’re lookin’ good. 😉

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2006, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wnd-put-down-the-tofu-honey-itll-only-make-you-gay/383861/9 "2006-12-12T20:35:32Z")

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> Soy is feminizing…

Which probably be really scary to a guy who is always in Rutz.

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**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2006, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wnd-put-down-the-tofu-honey-itll-only-make-you-gay/383861/10 "2006-12-12T20:39:29Z")

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I never eat tofu or soy based products and am totally gay. Though we did have that ice cream like substance that is actually tofu…tofutti or some such. I remember being gay before that so I don’t think there’s a connection there.

Of course I could just be in denial, what do us fags know anyway? 😉

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**Author:** ![Ol\_Gaffer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Ol\_Gaffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ol_Gaffer)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2006, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wnd-put-down-the-tofu-honey-itll-only-make-you-gay/383861/11 "2006-12-12T20:40:23Z")

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I guess they’ll have to change the name to [Tofrutti](http://www.tofutti.com/).

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**Author:** ![Autumn\_Almanac](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d26b3c/32.png) [@Autumn\_Almanac](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autumn_Almanac)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2006, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wnd-put-down-the-tofu-honey-itll-only-make-you-gay/383861/12 "2006-12-12T21:15:55Z")

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I wonder who gathered the data for the soy diet/penis size study. Ted Haggard?

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**Author:** ![ouryL](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ouryl/32/6067_2.png) [@ouryL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ouryL)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2006, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wnd-put-down-the-tofu-honey-itll-only-make-you-gay/383861/13 "2006-12-12T21:21:28Z")

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Oh?

I thought I loved tofu because I was Japanese. :dubious:

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2006, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wnd-put-down-the-tofu-honey-itll-only-make-you-gay/383861/14 "2006-12-12T21:27:01Z")

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[QUOTE=tomndebb]  
Which probably be really scary to a guy who is always in Rutz.  
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Well played, Sir.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2006, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wnd-put-down-the-tofu-honey-itll-only-make-you-gay/383861/15 "2006-12-12T21:28:44Z")

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I _knew_ there was a good reason to hate tofu!

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**Author:** ![Billdo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/billdo/32/315_2.png) [@Billdo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Billdo)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2006, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wnd-put-down-the-tofu-honey-itll-only-make-you-gay/383861/16 "2006-12-12T21:50:50Z")

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I have a serious question about one of the passages among the festering crap. In the column, he says:

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> There’s also a serious connection between soy and cancer in adults – especially breast cancer. That’s why the governments of Israel, the UK, France and New Zealand are already cracking down hard on soy.

Is there any scientific evidence of a link between soy and cancer, especially breast cancer? Also, has there been any form of a “crack-down” on soy in any of the countries listed?

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**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2006, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wnd-put-down-the-tofu-honey-itll-only-make-you-gay/383861/17 "2006-12-12T21:59:35Z")

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[QUOTE=Billdo]  
Is there any scientific evidence of a link between soy and cancer, especially breast cancer?  
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There’s at least serious talk about a connection:  
[Soy Processing Influences Estrogen-dependent Breast Cancer Growth In Mice](http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/05/040507083422.htm)

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> 2004  
> Highly purified soy foods and soy supplements marketed in the United States may stimulate the growth of pre-existing estrogen-dependent breast tumors, according to a study done at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign.  
> “Soy has been correlated with low rates of breast cancer in Asian populations, but soy foods in Asia are made from minimally processed soybeans or defatted, toasted soy flour, which is quite different from soy products consumed in the U.S.,” said William G. Helferich, a professor of food science and human nutrition, in a study presented online May 6 in advance of regular publication by the journal Carcinogenesis.

I’ve not followed this story, so have no idea where things stand today.

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**Author:** ![kung\_fu\_lola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f4b2a3/32.png) [@kung\_fu\_lola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kung_fu_lola)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2006, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wnd-put-down-the-tofu-honey-itll-only-make-you-gay/383861/18 "2006-12-12T23:59:11Z")

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Dr. Samuel Epstein is working on the connection between phyto-and pseudo-estrogens (such as those found in soy) in the environment, and skyrocketing cancer rates.

He was keynote speaker at a conference my mom organized on environmental factors in breast cancer.

This news story seems to be one of those tabloid-style; “take a grain of truth and spin it into a hysterical tale of calamity” stories.

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**Author:** ![kung\_fu\_lola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f4b2a3/32.png) [@kung\_fu\_lola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kung_fu_lola)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2006, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wnd-put-down-the-tofu-honey-itll-only-make-you-gay/383861/19 "2006-12-13T00:04:32Z")

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Whoops, [So who is this Dr. Sam Epstein guy, anyway?](http://www.health-report.co.uk/Dr_Samuel_Epstein.html)

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2006, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wnd-put-down-the-tofu-honey-itll-only-make-you-gay/383861/20 "2006-12-13T00:16:09Z")

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[QUOTE=Billdo]  
Is there any scientific evidence of a link between soy and cancer, especially breast cancer?  
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Soy-eaters are liberals. Liberals get abortions. [Abortions cause breast cancer.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=399318) Q.E.D.

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