# Wolverine hypotheticals

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wolverine-hypotheticals/1007023>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** comic-books-manga\
**Created:** [September 9, 2024, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wolverine-hypotheticals/1007023 "2024-09-09T18:03:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2024, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wolverine-hypotheticals/1007023/21 "2024-09-09T19:36:04Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> Old age and decades of adamantium poisoning.

That, but also too much corn syrup. A strain of corn had been genetically modified to produce a chemical that suppressed the x-gene, and they put it (in the form of corn syrup) in all the food.

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2024, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wolverine-hypotheticals/1007023/22 "2024-09-09T19:39:29Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> adamantium poisoning

I don’t even understand how that’s possible – it’s indestructible, so it will just sit there, on his bones, unchanging, not mixing with the rest of his system. Or, perhaps I’m looking at this a little too closely…

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2024, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wolverine-hypotheticals/1007023/23 "2024-09-09T19:47:41Z")

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I do recall it being said that one issue with adamantium coated bones is that it at least partially cut the bone marrow off from the body, causing immune system issues and anemia.

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**Author:** ![Ynnad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/4491bb/32.png) [@Ynnad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ynnad)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2024, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wolverine-hypotheticals/1007023/24 "2024-09-09T19:53:57Z")

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I was greatly disappointed when I discovered this thread was about some silly superhero. I was hoping it was going to be about actual wolverines (_Gulo gulo_). Now I understand why it was posted under Cafe Society, which I didn’t really notice at first.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2024, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wolverine-hypotheticals/1007023/25 "2024-09-09T19:58:38Z")

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I’m sorry, but the thought of real wolverines with adamantium claws scares the crap out of me. Those bastards are willing to take on elephants as-is.

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2024, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wolverine-hypotheticals/1007023/26 "2024-09-09T20:09:52Z")

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> [@RitterSport](#):
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> And, he was killed in the Logan movie somehow, I just don’t remember how.

> [@silenus](#):
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> Old age and decades of adamantium poisoning.

His clone X-4 however took an adamantium bullet to the brain, scrambling the brain cells and thus inducing death. Would a “new” regenerated brain cause a new character to arise, with new motivations and morals and such tho?

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2024, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wolverine-hypotheticals/1007023/27 "2024-09-09T21:15:43Z")

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> [@MrAtoz](#):
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> He was also affected by the zombie virus in the Marvel Zombies timeline, so apparently his healing factor didn’t work against that.

But it does cure vampirism.

> **[X-Men: How Marvel Turned Wolverine and Jubilee Into VAMPIRES](https://www.cbr.com/x-men-wolverine-jubilee-vampires/)**
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> 2010's "Curse of the Mutants" saw two fan favorite members of the X-Men undergo a horrendous transformation...into vampires.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2024, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wolverine-hypotheticals/1007023/28 "2024-09-09T21:27:53Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> I’m sorry, but the thought of real wolverines with adamantium claws scares the crap out of me. Those bastards are willing to take on elephants as-is.

That doesn’t seem like it would be a very common encounter.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2024, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wolverine-hypotheticals/1007023/29 "2024-09-09T21:40:24Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> That doesn’t seem like it would be a very common encounter.

“In retrospect, testing the Adamantium bonding process using _actual_ wolverines as the animal model may have been a…slight miscalculation.”

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**Author:** ![furryman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/furryman/32/99_2.png) [@furryman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furryman)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wolverine-hypotheticals/1007023/30 "2024-09-10T19:00:01Z")

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There was a comic where Wolverine encounters a mutant who’s power disintegrates everyone in a certain radius. I assume the implication was that his power allowed him to heal as fast as the mutant’s power disintegrated him.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wolverine-hypotheticals/1007023/31 "2024-09-10T19:29:07Z")

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I believe I know that story, and that’s not quite right - it wasn’t Wolverine’s healing factor that got him picked for that mission, it was his willingness to kill. A teenager in a small town suddenly has his mutant powers activate, and his mutant power is that he disintegrates all biological matter in a pretty wide radius around him. The first time his power activates, it takes out his entire town, including his family. Nick Fury and Professor X agree that the kid has to be killed, because his power is a national security risk, and incredibly bad optics for the mutant rights movement. Wolverine is picked because he would be willing to make that sort of hard choice, where another X-Man would be too principled to execute an innocent.

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**Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wolverine-hypotheticals/1007023/32 "2024-09-10T19:39:00Z")

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> [@Lumpy](#):
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> For that matter, aren’t there any number of situations where his healing factor would be perpetually countered– stuck in a tank of acid, dropped into the Sun, etc.? Ditto Hulk, etc.

The only one I am familiar with is from the “Deadpool kills the marvel universe” series, where Deadpool hooked him up to a heart monitor with a flamethrower attachment. Any positive sign of life triggers the flamethrower.

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**Author:** ![MrAtoz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MrAtoz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrAtoz)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wolverine-hypotheticals/1007023/33 "2024-09-10T20:16:02Z")

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That’s true, but Wolverine’s healing factor was still the reason that he was able to approach the kid without getting disintegrated. He says as much himself, when the kid yells at him to stay away or he’ll die. “Nah. Got a healing factor.”

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wolverine-hypotheticals/1007023/34 "2024-09-10T20:22:20Z")

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They showed something like that in _X3_. Jean, under control of the Phoenix Force tries to disintegrate Logan as he approaches her. Bits of him keep dissolving, but he keeps on coming until he reaches her and kills her. For some reason a (PG13 rating) his pants remain intact the entire time.

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**Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wolverine-hypotheticals/1007023/35 "2024-09-10T20:24:53Z")

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That wouldn’t necessarily stop it from being a catalyst.

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**Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wolverine-hypotheticals/1007023/36 "2024-09-10T20:54:16Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> I believe I know that story, and that’s not quite right - it wasn’t Wolverine’s healing factor that got him picked for that mission, it was his willingness to kill. A teenager in a small town suddenly has his mutant powers activate, and his mutant power is that he disintegrates all biological matter in a pretty wide radius around him.

> **[Ultimate X-Men Vol 1 41](https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Ultimate_X-Men_Vol_1_41)**
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> Featured Characters: Supporting Characters: Unnamed Mutant (First appearance; dies) Other Characters: Locations: Items: Vehicles: Unknown to himself, A boy hits puberty developing mutant powers. He is running late for school, unable to find his...

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**Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wolverine-hypotheticals/1007023/37 "2024-09-11T00:04:57Z")

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I have that comic - it’s a good one. I also remember an X-Men Annual with Prof. X and Magneto discussing the fate of a young boy. He’s wearing some sort of helmet while the meat of the story is mostly a flashback on Xavier and Magneto’s past. The story ends with Magneto crushing the helmet. Anyone remember that one?

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**Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wolverine-hypotheticals/1007023/38 "2024-09-11T00:28:11Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#):
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> You presumably mean the adamantine grafted to it. The answer is “no” but also “the metal is indestructible” but also “it depends, see above.”

No, but there is a pretty open continuity error in the Wolverine movies. He lost his metal claws at the end of the second Wolverine movie. Just bone was left.

By the time X-men First class and Logan were made, they skipped over any explanation how he got adamantium…uh, reapplied?

Then again Charles died in X-men 3 and his resurrection/survival was suggested, but never fully explained. He just showed up in beginning of Days of Future past and no one mentioned how he was:

1. Alive.
2. In the _same_ body Jean Grey destroyed.

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**Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wolverine-hypotheticals/1007023/39 "2024-09-11T00:30:43Z")

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Would it be safe to assume Wolverine is uncircumcised because he was just grow back his foreskin?

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**Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wolverine-hypotheticals/1007023/40 "2024-09-11T00:34:14Z")

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Probably, just as his female clone is presumably a permanent “virgin”.

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