# Woman escapes from shallow grave.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-escapes-from-shallow-grave/605311>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [December 6, 2011, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-escapes-from-shallow-grave/605311 "2011-12-06T22:27:51Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![shantih](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f6c823/32.png) [@shantih](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shantih)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2011, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-escapes-from-shallow-grave/605311/21 "2011-12-07T21:14:54Z")

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You know what, I’m just going to say it: she should totally break up with him. He’s not a nice boyfriend.

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**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2011, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-escapes-from-shallow-grave/605311/22 "2011-12-07T21:18:47Z")

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Friends help you move. Real friends help you move bodies. Fucking assholes help you bury someone alive.

> [@shantih](#):
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> You know what, I’m just going to say it: she should totally break up with him. He’s not a nice boyfriend.

Let’s not be so rash here! Counseling maybe, but breaking up after this one little incident???

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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2011, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-escapes-from-shallow-grave/605311/23 "2011-12-07T21:18:48Z")

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> [@shantih](#):
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> You know what, I’m just going to say it: she should totally break up with him. He’s not a nice boyfriend.

That’s a dealbreaker.

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**Author:** ![Maiira](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f04885/32.png) [@Maiira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maiira)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2011, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-escapes-from-shallow-grave/605311/24 "2011-12-07T21:19:58Z")

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> [@si\_blakely](#):
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> What is even better is that she used the engagement ring that he gave to her to get the [tape off her feet and rip the box open](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2070665/Michelina-Lewandowska-Buried-alive-woman-says-Marcin-Kasprzak-told-hated-her.html).
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> Si

Yeah, I thought that was very clever–I dunno that I would have thought of it. Adds an extra touch of delicious irony.

And here’s to hoping the assbag boyfriend never sees the light of day again.

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**Author:** ![pohjonen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pohjonen/32/423_2.png) [@pohjonen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pohjonen)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2011, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-escapes-from-shallow-grave/605311/25 "2011-12-07T21:32:04Z")

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> [@shantih](#):
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> You know what, I’m just going to say it: she should totally break up with him. He’s not a nice boyfriend.

If she doesn’t want to hurt his feelings, she can use the old “It’s not you, it’s me.”

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2011, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-escapes-from-shallow-grave/605311/26 "2011-12-08T02:05:17Z")

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> [@shantih](#):
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> You know what, I’m just going to say it: she should totally break up with him. He’s not a nice boyfriend.

That’s the SDMB’s answer to any relationship problem, isn’t it? Nobody’s willing to just work through their difficulties any more.

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**Author:** ![Bam\_Boo\_Gut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8c91f0/32.png) [@Bam\_Boo\_Gut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bam_Boo_Gut)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2011, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-escapes-from-shallow-grave/605311/27 "2011-12-08T02:10:55Z")

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Dig a new hole, Joel

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**Author:** ![Reply](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/reply/32/15952_2.png) [@Reply](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reply)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2011, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-escapes-from-shallow-grave/605311/28 "2011-12-08T02:24:16Z")

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They had a three-year-old son. The poor bastard’s going to grow up and one day learn that his father is in prison because he tried to kill her to take care of him. Sigh.

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**Author:** ![Springtime\_for\_Spacers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Springtime\_for\_Spacers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Springtime_for_Spacers)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2011, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-escapes-from-shallow-grave/605311/29 "2011-12-08T03:20:40Z")

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> [@Reply](#):
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> They had a three-year-old son. The poor bastard’s going to grow up and one day learn that his father is in prison because he tried to kill her to take care of him. Sigh.

And no doubt the father will claim his ex has poisoned his son’s mind against him.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2011, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-escapes-from-shallow-grave/605311/30 "2011-12-08T03:33:13Z")

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So what’s the etiquette in this situation: does she have to give the ring back?

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**Author:** ![wheresmymind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/91b2a8/32.png) [@wheresmymind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wheresmymind)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2011, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-escapes-from-shallow-grave/605311/31 "2011-12-08T05:34:44Z")

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Apparently some asshole boyfriend in England hasn’t read his Stieg Larsson.

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**Author:** ![ITR\_champion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c67d28/32.png) [@ITR\_champion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ITR_champion)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2011, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-escapes-from-shallow-grave/605311/32 "2011-12-09T22:28:39Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> I love the HuffPo headline:  
> \*\*  
> ‘Bored’ With Girlfriend, British Man Tased Her And Buried Her Alive\*\*
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> I expect he’ll get bored with prison, too, but he’ll be out of luck there.

Given the [exceedingly lame punishments](http://www.city-journal.org/html/16_2_oh_to_be.html) that some violent criminals get in Britain, perhaps not.

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**Author:** ![casdave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c6cbf5/32.png) [@casdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/casdave)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2011, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-escapes-from-shallow-grave/605311/33 "2011-12-10T12:54:50Z")

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Given the place that the trial is being held, and location of his offence, there is a strong possibility that I will get to deal with this charmer.

That will be quite some time in the future, I can’t see him getting less than 10 years, and there is a very good chance he will get a life sentence.

It will be some years before he works his way down throught the various security grades of our prisons - and much of that will depend upon his approach toward his sentence, if given a life sentence he may find himself in prison much longer than the court imposed minimum tariff - this is huighly likely since lifers are frequently held much longer than this tariff since they generally fail to address their behavious effectively and so are unable to prove that they are a reduced risk to the public.

I have noticed over the last 7 or 8 years that some of the most serious offences, torture/murders, brutal assaults have been carried out by EU emigres. There are lots of such folk working in low skill high volume work - agriculture cropping, industrial meat plants etc. I can’t help but wonder if they have used up all their chances in their home counties and have come here.

In some cases they have long records of serious crimes in their homelands.This is one serious weakness in the EU rights to free movement of labour - we should be able to ship them out before they ever get into our society, and if they should offend, they should be deported - there is no real need to be considering refugee status for EU emigres.

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**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2011, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-escapes-from-shallow-grave/605311/34 "2011-12-10T13:42:08Z")

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Best line in the Huffington Post article: “This is a file photo of a shovel.”

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**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2011, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-escapes-from-shallow-grave/605311/35 "2011-12-11T16:34:06Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> That’s the SDMB’s answer to any relationship problem, isn’t it? Nobody’s willing to just work through their difficulties any more.

Definitely. She’ll probably try to put all of the blame on him!

hh

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2011, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-escapes-from-shallow-grave/605311/36 "2011-12-11T17:32:24Z")

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> [@Bam\_Boo\_Gut](#):
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> Dig a new hole, Joel

Just bury her alive, Clive.

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**Author:** ![Bam\_Boo\_Gut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8c91f0/32.png) [@Bam\_Boo\_Gut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bam_Boo_Gut)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2011, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-escapes-from-shallow-grave/605311/37 "2011-12-11T19:12:11Z")

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> [@jjimm](#):
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> Just bury her alive, Clive.

Take off the ring, Sting.

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2011, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-escapes-from-shallow-grave/605311/38 "2011-12-12T02:24:36Z")

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> [@Bam\_Boo\_Gut](#):
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> Take off the ring, Sting.

…or she’ll set herself free.

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**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2011, 9:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-escapes-from-shallow-grave/605311/39 "2011-12-12T09:40:37Z")

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> [@](#):
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> ‘Bored’ With Girlfriend, Man Tased Her And Buried Her Alive: Cops

I apologize in advance for this:

‘Bored’ fiend, a fiend with a large box  
A fiend whose Taser shocks  
‘Bored’ fiend, to bury your love

Live fiend, and prison awaits you  
The world still abhors you  
Each time you touch a shovel

Stay fiend, where all walls confine you  
You’re free ‘till the ripping tape  
Then there’s no way to ‘scape

Bury, fiend, but she is still living  
Dirty, and misgiving  
'Cause you’re (a) ‘bored’ fiend

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**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2011, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-escapes-from-shallow-grave/605311/40 "2011-12-12T16:46:31Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> So what’s the etiquette in this situation: does she have to give the ring back?

:D:D:D

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