# Woman falls on baby, killing both (lame, unfocused) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 17, 2004, 11:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-falls-on-baby-killing-both-lame-unfocused/280318 "2004-12-17T11:19:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Noone\_Special](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/noone_special/32/2863_2.png) [@Noone\_Special](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Noone_Special)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2004, 11:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-falls-on-baby-killing-both-lame-unfocused/280318/1 "2004-12-17T11:19:38Z")
Not exactly a flame, and I’m not sure this is the right forum, but needs venting, and it’s just too tragic for MPSIMS ☹ [Two die as woman falling from 13th floor lands on baby](http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/515004.html) > [@Ha'Aretz](#): > > A woman who leaped from a balcony on the 13th floor of an Or Yehuda building Wednesday afternoon landed on a baby on the sidewalk. Both were killed I mean, this is the kind of stuff that never shows up in even the worst horror movies because the producers know it’s too unrealistic to be believed at all… ☹ ☹ ☹ Throw a stone from the top of a tall building 100 times, and you’ll probably never hit anyone at the bottom even if you _aim_. No-one to balme, really. It isn’t even totally certain that the woman was a suicide, she may have fallen. An act of fate, as it were. But the baby’s poor family! (The woman’s, too, of course - but it is these moments that show that tragedy can have many degrees, some worse than others.) Well, I did say it was lame and unfocused. But I just had to write **something**. (And as an aside - I know I’ll get flamed back for this, but these are the moments I’m glad I’m an atheist. Because if God does exist, It has one extremely badly warped sense of humor :eek:.) Dani ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2004, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-falls-on-baby-killing-both-lame-unfocused/280318/2 "2004-12-17T12:50:54Z")
This is a story that I thought was horrible. A woman comes home from 2 week in rehab to find her 60 year old husband dead of a heart attack and her 6 month old child dead from, well, not being cared for. ---
**Author:** ![Zabali\_Clawbane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/ecd19e/32.png) [@Zabali\_Clawbane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zabali_Clawbane)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2004, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-falls-on-baby-killing-both-lame-unfocused/280318/3 "2004-12-17T13:03:02Z")
**Biggirl** , can you link the story you mean please? :eek: ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Moto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2004, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-falls-on-baby-killing-both-lame-unfocused/280318/4 "2004-12-17T13:16:02Z")
I can relate, in a pretty direct way, to the OP. About ten years ago, my father’s best friend was killed because a distraught individual being chased by the police decided to blow his brains out in a moving truck. Said truck then became the Flying Fucking Dutchman and plowed into Bobby’s car. He was in his late forties, and left behind a wife and four kids. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2004, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-falls-on-baby-killing-both-lame-unfocused/280318/5 "2004-12-17T13:21:59Z")
> **[Newsday | Long Island's & NYC's News Source](https://www.newsday.com)** > > Breaking News, data & opinions in business, sports, entertainment, travel, lifestyle, plus much more. Newsday.com is the leading news source for Long Island & NYC. This news story doesn’t do it any justice but it was the only one about it that I found on line. It was also reported that they had just moved into the apartment from a homeless shelter. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2004, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-falls-on-baby-killing-both-lame-unfocused/280318/6 "2004-12-17T13:31:04Z")
[http://cbsnewyork.com/topstories/topstoriesny\_story\_344175212.html](http://cbsnewyork.com/topstories/topstoriesny_story_344175212.html) There’s a little more detail here. ---
**Author:** ![Giles](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giles/32/60_2.png) [@Giles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giles)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2004, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-falls-on-baby-killing-both-lame-unfocused/280318/7 "2004-12-17T13:52:01Z")
**Noone special** said that “this is the kind of stuff that never shows up in even the worst horror movies” – but something like it did show up in one of the best comedy movies, _Le Fabuleux destin d’Amélie Poulain_. Amélie’s mother is killed when a tourist jumps from a church. ---
**Author:** ![Rune](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e68b1a/32.png) [@Rune](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rune)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2004, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-falls-on-baby-killing-both-lame-unfocused/280318/8 "2004-12-17T14:16:18Z")
You must be using _“one of the best”_ in a completely new and very creative way. Anyway I remember vaguely a case where a suicide jumper landed on another man, whom was killed – the jumper survived though and was charged with murder. But what are you going to sentence a man who wants to die? Life? The woman in Tel Aviv, if she attempted suicide, must surely carry some of the blame. She could at least have picked a spot where she would be less likely to hit somebody – not to say think of those that are forced to watch her violent death and clean up after her. ---
**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2004, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-falls-on-baby-killing-both-lame-unfocused/280318/9 "2004-12-17T14:42:17Z")
That’s why I would never kill myself by jumping out of a window, as tempting as it may be—landing on people is the height of rudeness. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Moto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2004, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-falls-on-baby-killing-both-lame-unfocused/280318/10 "2004-12-17T15:46:30Z")
I don’t see you as the suicide type, **Eve** , but if you were, I’m sure you’d do yourself in in a classic and appropriate way. Can you get your hands on enough laudanum or paregoric these days to swoon away? ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2004, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-falls-on-baby-killing-both-lame-unfocused/280318/11 "2004-12-17T15:59:06Z")
I swear, we need a new forum to post these depressing stories. That in itself is depressing … ---
**Author:** ![MysteryFellow63427](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e4f/32.png) [@MysteryFellow63427](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MysteryFellow63427)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2004, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-falls-on-baby-killing-both-lame-unfocused/280318/12 "2004-12-17T16:09:35Z")
Maybe we should just make it mandatory policy to also link to a nice happy thread about someone on the SDMB getting married, graduating, etc. when creating one of these “I can’t believe how fucked up the world is” threads. no I’m not serious ---
**Author:** ![Hustle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/df705f/32.png) [@Hustle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hustle)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2004, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-falls-on-baby-killing-both-lame-unfocused/280318/13 "2004-12-17T17:53:57Z")
> [@neuroman](#): > > Maybe we should just make it mandatory policy to also link to a nice happy thread about someone on the SDMB getting married, graduating, etc. when creating one of these “I can’t believe how fucked up the world is” threads. But that would mean you’d have to read a whole thread to get cheered up again. Besides, you’d run out of single people after about two weeks. [Instant gratification alternative](http://www.paintaholic.com/assets/images/gracie2.JPG). [sub]no, she’s not mine[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![OtakuLoki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ac8455/32.png) [@OtakuLoki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OtakuLoki)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2004, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-falls-on-baby-killing-both-lame-unfocused/280318/14 "2004-12-17T18:15:37Z")
_sigh_ I’m afraid I can’t buy the ‘there’s no indication of suicide’ thinking, here. Unless the window blew out, or something equally unlikely, I cannot imagine how a sane and responsible person could accidentally fall out of a window on the 13th floor. In which case, it simply reinforces my feeling that suicide is an inherently selfish act. ---
**Author:** ![Snickers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@Snickers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snickers)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2004, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-falls-on-baby-killing-both-lame-unfocused/280318/15 "2004-12-17T18:18:49Z")
> [@Eve](#): > > That’s why I would never kill myself by jumping out of a window, as tempting as it may be—landing on people is the height of rudeness. Eve, you are a lady and a delight. Because your posts always make me smile (even when the things you describe aren’t going well), I wish you all the best. ---
**Author:** ![Zabali\_Clawbane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/ecd19e/32.png) [@Zabali\_Clawbane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zabali_Clawbane)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2004, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-falls-on-baby-killing-both-lame-unfocused/280318/16 "2004-12-17T20:51:21Z")
This incident has ripped up so many people’s lives. I’d bet the paramedics who tried to save the baby are struggling with this too. I hope the family will be able to cope, and heal from this someday. Is there any word on whether or not it was a suiciide or an accident yet? Oh… **Biggirl** that’s about the most heartbreaking story I’ve ever read. So sad, the husband didn’t have anyone close enough to him that would come by to talk to him and support him in such a tough time, who could have discovered the baby in time. Horribly poingant in so many ways. ☹ I can’t imagine the pain that woman must be feeling. She left to go better herself, so she and her loved ones could have a better life, and it ends up being a tragic ending instead of a joyous re-birth. I don’t want to think about the poor little one and the pain they felt as they died, it’s just too much. ---
**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2004, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-falls-on-baby-killing-both-lame-unfocused/280318/17 "2004-12-17T20:56:03Z")
> [@Snickers](#): > > Eve, you are a lady and a delight. Because your posts always make me smile (even when the things you describe aren’t going well), I wish you all the best. Thank you, dear. The windows in my office only open wide enough for the size-two fashion editors to jump out of, anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Shadez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Shadez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shadez)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2004, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-falls-on-baby-killing-both-lame-unfocused/280318/18 "2004-12-17T20:56:38Z")
> [@OtakuLoki](#): > > reinforces my feeling that suicide is an inherently selfish act. Generalizations are inherently annoying, too. /S ---
**Author:** ![Eats\_Crayons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/278dde/32.png) [@Eats\_Crayons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eats_Crayons)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2004, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-falls-on-baby-killing-both-lame-unfocused/280318/19 "2004-12-17T21:31:54Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > [http://cbsnewyork.com/topstories/topstoriesny\_story\_344175212.html](http://cbsnewyork.com/topstories/topstoriesny_story_344175212.html) > There’s a little more detail here. Am I the only one who finds it disconcerting to see the banner with a happyhappyhappy picture of a pair of beaming news anchors over mrobid headlines. Why Maurice and Dana are just cheerfully thrilled to tell you “Father and Infant Daughter Found Dead!” It’s like when TV anchors forget to switch to their “somber face” and give you the happy-go-lucky report of the death and tragedy. Creepy. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2004, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-falls-on-baby-killing-both-lame-unfocused/280318/20 "2004-12-17T21:43:45Z")
> [@Hustle](#): > > [Instant gratification alternative](http://www.paintaholic.com/assets/images/gracie2.JPG) How is a man holding his grotesquely malformed penis supposed to cheer us up? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-falls-on-baby-killing-both-lame-unfocused/280318.md?page=2)