# Woman finds bag of cash - turns it into the Bank **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [June 20, 2013, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-finds-bag-of-cash-turns-it-into-the-bank/661453 "2013-06-20T12:19:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2013, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-finds-bag-of-cash-turns-it-into-the-bank/661453/61 "2013-06-21T19:02:29Z")
> [@Cartooniverse](#): > > 1. You do not demand ID from a plainclothes officer. Can you at least ask? ---
**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2013, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-finds-bag-of-cash-turns-it-into-the-bank/661453/62 "2013-06-21T19:10:53Z")
I think my use of “you” in my last post was a mistake. I would edit if I could and replace the use of you with “I”. I do not demand ID from plainclothes officers. Not if I wish to go home with the same number of teeth I left the house with. All do as they wish in such situations. My choice is to comply with demands. Again, I would avoid this particular scenario by walking by the planted evidence. ---
**Author:** ![Claverhouse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/13edae/32.png) [@Claverhouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Claverhouse)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2013, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-finds-bag-of-cash-turns-it-into-the-bank/661453/63 "2013-06-21T19:26:05Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > I’m sure you’re very proud of your subscription to **Adbusters** and your Banksy T-shirt, but can you not see the irony in this sentence? You start by expressing contentment with your ignorance of the topic at hand and end by mocking the intelligence of folks you’re arguing with. I’m not sure how you get to this: by not knowing of one particular director, I am expressing contentment of my ignorance of the subject — which is not that person ? [Not to mention that to appreciate a film as art needs no knowledge of the director of that film except to cineastes…] And by saying ‘_Meh, dunno this Raimi, but dedication rather than intelligence is the hallmark of all minions of state public guidance._’, I am somehow mocking the intelligence of the audience rather than that of those minions ? > [@](#): > > I mean, keep on keepin on, but nobody ever changed the world by not knowing what they’re talking about. I doubt if most of the warlords from Attila to Bonaparte, however brilliant, who really _did_ change the world, ever did know much about what they were asserting. Usually they conformed reality to their own world-vision rather than perceiving inner truths. > [@Bricker](#): > > _sigh_ > > If your reading were correct, that would apply to any undercover police operation, wouldn’t it? > > The “werewithal” for the crime of soliciting prostitution would not have been present if the undercover officer hadn’t been on the street wearing hooker clothes. The “werewithal” for the crime of buying heroin would not have been present if the undercover officer had not offered to sell heroin. > > So… since undercover stings obviously result in successful prosecutions, might your read of the language be a bit mistaken? Well, I must refer you to Stanislaus for where this differs; however in general I do not care for any type of ‘sting’. This may just be cultural, since anglo-saxon law has usually been wary of agent provocateurism ( an exception would be in the early 19th century when the state used such people to entice jacobin sympathisers as carefully as any later Third Sectionist [about the same time as your Sedition Acts] ). ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2013, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-finds-bag-of-cash-turns-it-into-the-bank/661453/64 "2013-06-21T19:33:10Z")
> [@Claverhouse](#): > > Well, I must refer you to Stanislaus for where this differs; however in general I do not care for any type of ‘sting’. This may just be cultural, since anglo-saxon law has usually been wary of agent provocateurism ( an exception would be in the early 19th century when the state used such people to entice jacobin sympathisers as carefully as any later Third Sectionist [about the same time as your Sedition Acts] ). I don’t doubt your preferences. I’m just explaining what the parameters are of U.S. law as relates to the concept of entrapment. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2013, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-finds-bag-of-cash-turns-it-into-the-bank/661453/65 "2013-06-21T20:20:43Z")
> [@Claverhouse](#): > > I’m not sure how you get to this: by not knowing of one particular director, I am expressing contentment of my ignorance of the subject — which is not that person ? > [Not to mention that to appreciate a film as art needs no knowledge of the director of that film except to cineastes…] > > And by saying ‘_Meh, dunno this Raimi, but dedication rather than intelligence is the hallmark of all minions of state public guidance._’, I am somehow mocking the intelligence of the audience rather than that of those minions ? How is Sam Raimi a “minion” of anyone? Do you really think it is plausible that he was receiving orders from the Secret Masters to make _A simple plan_? “You! Raimi! Make a film which will encourage people not to pick up large piles of cash, As this is an issue of utmost concern to your masters! Hail Satan!” Isn’t it much more plausible that he read Scott Smith’s thriller, thought “hey, this will make a good movie,” and made said movie. I mean, doesn’t that just make more sense? Why are the illuminati so concerned about people picking up large piles of cash anyway? Don’t they have their hands full with banks and the middle east? ---
**Author:** ![Learjeff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/94ad74/32.png) [@Learjeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Learjeff)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2013, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-finds-bag-of-cash-turns-it-into-the-bank/661453/66 "2013-06-21T20:21:41Z")
> [@Cartooniverse](#): > > I think my use of “you” in my last post was a mistake. I would edit if I could and replace the use of you with “I”. > > I do not demand ID from plainclothes officers. Not if I wish to go home with the same number of teeth I left the house with. All do as they wish in such situations. My choice is to comply with demands. > > Again, I would avoid this particular scenario by walking by the planted evidence. OK, in that case, I’m an NYPD plainclothes officer. You must deposit $1000 into my paypal account. I’ll PM you with the number. ---
**Author:** ![Claverhouse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/13edae/32.png) [@Claverhouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Claverhouse)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2013, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-finds-bag-of-cash-turns-it-into-the-bank/661453/67 "2013-06-21T21:22:08Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > I don’t doubt your preferences. I’m just explaining what the parameters are of U.S. law as relates to the concept of entrapment. I should rather say that my preferences are those generally held by British juries, who will let known malefactors go rather than convict on entrapped evidence; although I doubt if this distaste is held by the judicial system itself. Even during Pitt the Younger’s crusade against revolutionaries, juries routinely refused to convict on his informers’ proofs. As for prostitute entrapment, the venerable Paul Craig Robert’s has an amusing **[piece](http://www.lewrockwell.com/roberts/roberts230.html)** — in Rockwell, alas — pointing out bold cops of Columbus, Ohio were enticing men in the most literal sense… \*The police are planting attractive women half naked in parks. They entice passing males, engage them in conversation, lay back, spread their legs and rest their feet on the men’s shoulders. \* \*After being as friendly and suggestive as possible, they ask to see your penis. \* _Don’t show it to them. You are being filmed by police. If you show your penis, you will be arrested as a pervert._ I’m gonna go out on a limb here, but I think by the time ankles are on shoulders, the guardians of morals are crossing a line. He too mentions the NYPD: _The corrupt New York Police Department ensnared 300 innocents during 2007 via “Operation Lucky Bag.” Police place iPods, cell phones, wallets, and shopping bags containing items in New York subway stations. The items appear to be dropped, lost, or abandoned. Anyone who picks up one of the planted items is arrested for “subway grand larceny.”_ > [@Larry\_Borgia](#): > > How is Sam Raimi a “minion” of anyone? Do you really think it is plausible that he was receiving orders from the Secret Masters to make _A simple plan_? “You! Raimi! Make a film which will encourage people not to pick up large piles of cash, As this is an issue of utmost concern to your masters! Hail Satan!” Isn’t it much more plausible that he read Scott Smith’s thriller, thought “hey, this will make a good movie,” and made said movie. I mean, doesn’t that just make more sense? Why are the illuminati so concerned about people picking up large piles of cash anyway? Don’t they have their hands full with banks and the middle east? I doubt there are any illuminati type conspiracies dominating anything: if so, they are very inefficient. But I do believe that ruling classes from Ancient Rome to the Soviet Nomenklatura co-opt the Zeitgeist to have produced the opinions they want produced, and discourage the production of those thoughts they consider harmful. Nothing as crude as offered money need be involved. Sometimes merely that the actor is guided to imagine he is serving a higher cause. As in as a pro — or anti, depending on belief — environmental film. By controlling the climate of moral belief, it would, for example, be impossible for a film offering the solution of Christlike absolute pacifism as America’s position in the Middle East to be financed, made or distributed as a summer blockbuster. [Disclaimer: I am neither a christian nor a pacifist.] ---
**Author:** ![actualliberalnotoneofthose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e79b87/32.png) [@actualliberalnotoneofthose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/actualliberalnotoneofthose)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2013, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-finds-bag-of-cash-turns-it-into-the-bank/661453/68 "2013-06-21T21:44:00Z")
Sounds like the NYPD is in the business of creating “crime” and generally harassing innocent people- perhaps to make it seem like they are needed. If they stuck to doing legit police work, how much force would they actually need? 20%? ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2013, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-finds-bag-of-cash-turns-it-into-the-bank/661453/69 "2013-06-22T05:56:36Z")
> [@Claverhouse](#): > > I should rather say that my preferences are those generally held by British juries, who will let known malefactors go rather than convict on entrapped evidence; although I doubt if this distaste is held by the judicial system itself. > > Even during Pitt the Younger’s crusade against revolutionaries, juries routinely refused to convict on his informers’ proofs. > > As for prostitute entrapment, the venerable Paul Craig Robert’s has an amusing **[piece](http://www.lewrockwell.com/roberts/roberts230.html)** — in Rockwell, alas — pointing out bold cops of Columbus, Ohio were enticing men in the most literal sense… > > \*The police are planting attractive women half naked in parks. They entice passing males, engage them in conversation, lay back, spread their legs and rest their feet on the men’s shoulders. \* > \*After being as friendly and suggestive as possible, they ask to see your penis. \* > _Don’t show it to them. You are being filmed by police. If you show your penis, you will be arrested as a pervert._ > I’m gonna go out on a limb here, but I think by the time ankles are on shoulders, the guardians of morals are crossing a line. > He too mentions the NYPD: > > _The corrupt New York Police Department ensnared 300 innocents during 2007 via “Operation Lucky Bag.” Police place iPods, cell phones, wallets, and shopping bags containing items in New York subway stations. The items appear to be dropped, lost, or abandoned. Anyone who picks up one of the planted items is arrested for “subway grand larceny.”_ > > I doubt there are any illuminati type conspiracies dominating anything: if so, they are very inefficient. > > But I do believe that ruling classes from Ancient Rome to the Soviet Nomenklatura co-opt the Zeitgeist to have produced the opinions they want produced, and discourage the production of those thoughts they consider harmful. Nothing as crude as offered money need be involved. Sometimes merely that the actor is guided to imagine he is serving a higher cause. As in as a pro — or anti, depending on belief — environmental film. > > By controlling the climate of moral belief, it would, for example, be impossible for a film offering the solution of Christlike absolute pacifism as America’s position in the Middle East to be financed, made or distributed as a summer blockbuster. > > [Disclaimer: I am neither a christian nor a pacifist.] Ohhkayy no offence, but when I get back from the bathroom I’m gonna be sitting at the other end of the bar. ---
**Author:** ![panaccione](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@panaccione](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panaccione)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2013, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-finds-bag-of-cash-turns-it-into-the-bank/661453/70 "2013-06-22T07:19:32Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > What would you like me to do if you lose a big bunch of cash and I’m the one that happens to find it? Well, I would like you to return it. What’s your point? ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2013, 10:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-finds-bag-of-cash-turns-it-into-the-bank/661453/71 "2013-06-22T10:30:55Z")
> [@Larry\_Borgia](#): > > Ohhkayy no offence, but when I get back from the bathroom I’m gonna be sitting at the other end of the bar. 😃 I’ve done that a couple times. On one occasion I also bought a round of drinks for everyone _except_ one person. ---
**Author:** ![ratatoskK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ratatoskk/32/2987_2.png) [@ratatoskK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ratatoskK)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2013, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-finds-bag-of-cash-turns-it-into-the-bank/661453/72 "2013-06-22T20:52:52Z")
Chase should at least have to prove that it’s theirs. Just because the bag says Chase doesn’t mean it’s their cash. ---
**Author:** ![JustinC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justinc/32/8083_2.png) [@JustinC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JustinC)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2013, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-finds-bag-of-cash-turns-it-into-the-bank/661453/73 "2013-06-22T23:18:54Z")
I was taking the train to school, aged around 15, and sat near me was a guy on his way to work (I guess, he was in a suit). He got off a few stops before me and left behind his wallet, on the seat and obviously had fallen out of a pocket. It didn’t occur to me what it contained for a second and immediately I said “Sir, your wallet!” and he turned back, picked it up and thanked me. Years later I was walking from a station towards my place of work and heard, in the distance, several young women singing “ **Mr JustinC! … Mr JustinCee-ee!!** ” I turned around and the three of them approached me, giggling, before handing me my own wallet containing my driver’s license, credit cards and a small amount of cash. That gave me a warm feeling with a value far beyond the money they returned to me. Maybe Karma but, whatever, if I’d not got my wallet back it would’ve been a Royal PITA just buying lunch that day. That reminds me of a joke: Over the last month or so I became the victim of a clever scam while out shopping. Here’s how it pans out, don’t be a victim like I was. Two seriously good looking 21 year old girls come over to your car as you’re loading stuff into your trunk. They both start washing your windshield with a rag while their cleavage is practically falling out of their T-shirts. It’s impossible not to look. When you thank them or offer a tip, they say no and instead ask you for a lift to another Wal-Mart. You agree and they get in the back seat. On the way they start having sex with each other, then one of them climbs over into the front seat and gives you a blowjob while the other one steals your wallet. I had my wallet stolen on Monday, Tuesday, twice on Thursday and again this morning. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-finds-bag-of-cash-turns-it-into-the-bank/661453.md?page=3)