# Woman Fired from Job for Helping Gunshot Victim **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [March 12, 2003, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-fired-from-job-for-helping-gunshot-victim/160726 "2003-03-12T03:24:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Lissa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lissa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lissa)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-fired-from-job-for-helping-gunshot-victim/160726/1 "2003-03-12T03:24:23Z")
I guess no good [deed](http://www.canoe.ca/WinnipegNews/ws.ws-03-10-0005.html/) goes unpunished. > [@](#): > > “We feel just as bad as the next guy but we don’t pay employees to be EMTs, which she isn’t,” Jason Boyd, a supervisor at Frank’s Pizza in Selkirk, told a local newspaper last week. \ “She wasn’t dismissed because she was at the shooting scene,” he said. “She was away from her job for no good reason.” While in-between orders, the woman stopped to help a shooting victim, pressing a pillow to the wound to slow the bleeding, and trying to keep him concious until help could arrive. When the police asked her to fill out a statement, she had to call her job to tell them that someone would need to fill in for her until she could return. When she did get back to the resturant, she found that she had no longer had job. I just hope that if the supervisor is ever in need of help that people don’t say, “Sorry, dude. I’m on the clock!” ---
**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-fired-from-job-for-helping-gunshot-victim/160726/2 "2003-03-12T03:39:20Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Lissa \* > \*\*I just hope that if the supervisor is ever in need of help that people don’t say, “Sorry, dude. I’m on the clock!” \*\* I doubt I’d lose sleep over it. ---
**Author:** ![Scarlett67](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scarlett67/32/7387_2.png) [@Scarlett67](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scarlett67)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-fired-from-job-for-helping-gunshot-victim/160726/3 "2003-03-12T03:40:18Z")
Oh, I have a feeling that karma (and/or REALLY bad PR) are going to bite that supervisor in the ass. And that the woman who was fired is going to get a bunch of job offers. If there’s any justice in this world, that is. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![MikeG](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikeg/32/4329_2.png) [@MikeG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeG)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-fired-from-job-for-helping-gunshot-victim/160726/4 "2003-03-12T03:40:25Z")
> [@](#): > > “She wasn’t dismissed because she was at the shooting scene,” he said. “She was away from her job for no good reason.” no Good Reason? NO GOOD REASON??!?!?!? NO GOOD REASON?!?!?!?!?!?!!? Holy shit, that is one of the coldest things I’ve ever heard. If people aren’t trying to hire her, I will be amazed. ---
**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-fired-from-job-for-helping-gunshot-victim/160726/5 "2003-03-12T03:48:54Z")
> [@](#): > > He said, ‘What the hell were you doing there?’" she said. “He told me I was fired because I was a threat to the business.” Gee, I’m betting business at Franks has slowed _considerably_ at the news. I’d boycott until Boyd is out and Marcella McAulay is brought back, with a raise. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-fired-from-job-for-helping-gunshot-victim/160726/6 "2003-03-12T03:49:37Z")
Maybe the pizza guy will see a drop in business. ---
**Author:** ![Scarlett67](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scarlett67/32/7387_2.png) [@Scarlett67](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scarlett67)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2003, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-fired-from-job-for-helping-gunshot-victim/160726/7 "2003-03-13T15:45:32Z")
[Here’s](http://www.canoe.ca/WinnipegNews/ws.ws-03-13-0001.html) a follow-up article. Basically, people are calling up the pizza joint to tell the bosses they’re assholes, and the driver has been offered a job at Domino’s. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Davebear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bcef8e/32.png) [@Davebear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Davebear)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2003, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-fired-from-job-for-helping-gunshot-victim/160726/8 "2003-03-13T16:06:43Z")
I love this quote from the follow-up article. > [@](#): > > “They want to boycott this place, they’re wrecking people’s lives. It has nothing to do with the employees but now they’re suffering,” Sally said. “It has gotten out of hand. It’s a tough situation, but what’s done is done.” Would you care for some cheese with that whine, Sally? Gimme a break! Anyone who would work for those people, knowing the situation, deserves whatever happens. We’re not talking about glamorous, highly paid career positions with unlimited potential, here. It’s a crappy job in a pizza parlor. Walk away! ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2003, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-fired-from-job-for-helping-gunshot-victim/160726/9 "2003-03-13T16:34:00Z")
Ironicly, the manager was shot a few days ago in an unrelated hold-up. Apparently he died because his workers were to afraid of getting fired to call 911 or apply first aid. ---
**Author:** ![Gorgon\_Heap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f475e1/32.png) [@Gorgon\_Heap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorgon_Heap)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2003, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-fired-from-job-for-helping-gunshot-victim/160726/10 "2003-03-13T16:56:39Z")
**msmith** Cite? Is this true? ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2003, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-fired-from-job-for-helping-gunshot-victim/160726/11 "2003-03-13T17:36:04Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Gorgon Heap \* > **msmith** Cite? Is this true? \*\* No…of course it’s not true:D ---
**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2003, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-fired-from-job-for-helping-gunshot-victim/160726/12 "2003-03-13T17:59:32Z")
Cripes. I’ve never been to Selkirk, but you can be sure that I won’t stop at that pizza place until it puts up a ‘new management’ sign… and lives up to it. And the asshole is delivering pizza him/her self. On a bicycle. In the rain. ---
**Author:** ![David\_Simmons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9de053/32.png) [@David\_Simmons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_Simmons)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2003, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-fired-from-job-for-helping-gunshot-victim/160726/13 "2003-03-13T19:40:52Z")
That boss must be the same one of this old story. A guy showed up at 11:00 AM for his job that started at 8:00AM. He had his arm in a sling and a neck brace and told his boss that on his way to work he tripped on a torn carpet and fell down a flight of stairs. The boss said, “And that took you three hours?” ---
**Author:** ![Poysyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Poysyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Poysyn)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2003, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-fired-from-job-for-helping-gunshot-victim/160726/14 "2003-03-13T20:14:17Z")
Just a follow-up, there is more to the story than originally thought - > [@](#): > > She was welcome to take coffee and lunch breaks at the restaurant. On the night she came to the aid of an injured man, McAulay and a girlfriend had just left Tim Horton’s where they’d gone for coffee. She was not on her lunch break, she was simply test-driving her car, which had been beset by mechanical problems. The restaurant had no idea where she was, or when she would return. She was still on shift and being paid an hourly wage. > > Frank’s co-owner Randy Saluk says this was an ongoing problem. > > “She’s been warned several times,” Saluk says, adding it was never acceptable for his drivers to cruise around town when they were supposed to be working. McAulay, who defines herself as a “rabble rouser,” admits she was warned, but says other employees took personal calls or visited with friends in the restaurant. “It didn’t happen very often,” she says, adding that since she used her car to make deliveries she should be cut some slack. The 50 cents a delivery plus wage and tips she earned wasn’t sufficient, she says. > > Elaine Boyd, another Frank’s owner, complained of other problems. > > “She wouldn’t wear a hair net in the kitchen. She wouldn’t wear the apron that was part of the uniform.” So she was actualy going to be fired anyway, it was just bad timing on the owners’ part that they did it that night. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2003, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-fired-from-job-for-helping-gunshot-victim/160726/15 "2003-03-13T22:22:55Z")
Or, they’re spin doctoring to make the firing seem more justifiable. ---
**Author:** ![Poysyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Poysyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Poysyn)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2003, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-fired-from-job-for-helping-gunshot-victim/160726/16 "2003-03-13T22:30:23Z")
Possibly, but being familiar with Selkirk, I’d have to say they don’t tend to be particularly nasty out there about good samaritan type things. Just maybe another side to consider . ---
**Author:** ![deborak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc348/32.png) [@deborak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deborak)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2003, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-fired-from-job-for-helping-gunshot-victim/160726/17 "2003-03-13T23:10:35Z")
Even if there were ongoing problems with this waitress, the owners didn’t do themselves any favors by spouting off the quote in the OP. One of the owners, Boyd, was the one who decided to be a smart-ass with the “we don’t pay them to be EMTs” comment. Surely he had to realize how horrible that made the company sound. It does indeed sound like they’re simply doing damage control now. IMO, the best thing they could have done is apologize profusely for their dumb-ass comments, hire her back, and THEN fire her when she refuses to wear her apron. Poyson, I don’t see a link to your story…at any point, have the owners actually come out and said that an employee stopping to aid a gunshot victim is normally considered an acceptable act, as opposed to a firing offense? Because it sounds like they’re just being defensive, without altering their original comments at all. ---
**Author:** ![shadow4md](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/76d3ee/32.png) [@shadow4md](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shadow4md)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-fired-from-job-for-helping-gunshot-victim/160726/18 "2013-02-25T01:18:21Z")
I know this is a very old thread but it’s interesting that this guy is in the news again: [http://www.globalwinnipeg.com/hockey+father+suspended+for+antics+caught+on+video/6442809817/story.html](http://www.globalwinnipeg.com/hockey+father+suspended+for+antics+caught+on+video/6442809817/story.html) ---
**Author:** ![China\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@China\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/China_Guy)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-fired-from-job-for-helping-gunshot-victim/160726/19 "2013-02-25T02:08:29Z")
showdow4md, welcome to the Straight Dope. I’m simply curious what motivates you to find a thread that is 10 years old, register for the dope, and resurrect it with your first post. And the first post seems to be the same Jason Boyd. Who incidentally sounds like a total a\*\*hole. ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-fired-from-job-for-helping-gunshot-victim/160726/20 "2013-02-25T02:13:59Z")
Jesus Christ, who starts an altercation with a stranger _while holding a baby?_ [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-fired-from-job-for-helping-gunshot-victim/160726.md?page=2)