# Woman incinerates herself, abandoning husband, in the name of the cult of the child

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 25, 2008, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-incinerates-herself-abandoning-husband-in-the-name-of-the-cult-of-the-child/442622 "2008-03-25T00:59:47Z")\
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**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2008, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-incinerates-herself-abandoning-husband-in-the-name-of-the-cult-of-the-child/442622/21 "2008-03-25T01:53:07Z")

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[QUOTE=OtakuLoki]  
**Sarahfeena** , I think you’re likely erring on the side of generousity towards the woman you’ve mentioned: I think it’s unlikely that she took the time to think about the risks associated with what she was about to do. I don’t think it’s a spinal reflex to try to do something, but in a crisis situation a lot of people will focus on the first action that comes to their mind, esp. when dealing with a person or a close pet in danger. It’s **hard** to take the moment when you’re imagining Fido stuck behind a shut door with flames licking around his feet, to ask yourself whether you can realistically run in, get Fido, and get out, before the situation becomes hopeless.

Though, I have to admit, for people without firefighting experience, it’s also very, very rare for them to accurately judge how quickly a fire may progress. So, she may have made an assessment, but a flawed one based on ignorance of how large scale fires behave.  
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Oh, don’t get me wrong, I agree with you…she obviously made a horribly rash decision, and was not thinking quite right. My point, I guess, was that you don’t run in there thinking you’re not going to come out, which is what the OP seemed to be implying.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2008, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-incinerates-herself-abandoning-husband-in-the-name-of-the-cult-of-the-child/442622/22 "2008-03-25T01:53:37Z")

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[QUOTE=buttonjockey308]  
I for one am glad alphabet Charlie could take the time out of his busy schedule of rocking back and forth, working his horizontal index finger up and down between his pursed lips and blowing out, and making picture frames from gold painted macaroni to entertain us.  
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😃

Best reply so far.

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2008, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-incinerates-herself-abandoning-husband-in-the-name-of-the-cult-of-the-child/442622/23 "2008-03-25T01:53:45Z")

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[QUOTE=Qadgop the Mercotan]  
That woman in the link was fully human, and I empathize completely with her.  
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Same here. Some of these threads about sacrificing x to save your child, or sacrificing the entire race…okay, those are a little scary. The situation in the OP sounds like an actually normal, instinctive scenario where someone would sacrifice themselves for their child.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2008, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-incinerates-herself-abandoning-husband-in-the-name-of-the-cult-of-the-child/442622/24 "2008-03-25T01:56:37Z")

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I think it would save time if **Too Long, Doesn’t Think** just made a list of things that _don’t_ send him into apoplectic fits of rage. I guessing that list has two, maybe three items on it, tops.

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2008, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-incinerates-herself-abandoning-husband-in-the-name-of-the-cult-of-the-child/442622/25 "2008-03-25T02:03:01Z")

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[QUOTE=TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW]  
This is a mental illness.  
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You are a mental illness.

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**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2008, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-incinerates-herself-abandoning-husband-in-the-name-of-the-cult-of-the-child/442622/26 "2008-03-25T02:04:06Z")

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[QUOTE=Miller]  
I think it would save time if **Too Long, Doesn’t Think** just made a list of things that _don’t_ send him into apoplectic fits of rage.  
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As it happens, I’ve compiled a rather comprehensive list of such things:  
[ul][li] …[/li][li] …[/li][li] …[/li][li] …[/li][li] …[/li][/ul]  
Feel free to add your own if you can manage to think of any, of course!

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**Author:** ![Syntropy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@Syntropy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Syntropy)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2008, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-incinerates-herself-abandoning-husband-in-the-name-of-the-cult-of-the-child/442622/27 "2008-03-25T02:12:41Z")

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[QUOTE=Sarahfeena]  
Oh, don’t get me wrong, I agree with you…she obviously made a horribly rash decision, and was not thinking quite right. My point, I guess, was that you don’t run in there thinking you’re not going to come out, which is what the OP seemed to be implying.  
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No, no, NO! Bad **Sarahfeena**! Don’t encourage him.

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**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2008, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-incinerates-herself-abandoning-husband-in-the-name-of-the-cult-of-the-child/442622/28 "2008-03-25T02:20:29Z")

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[QUOTE=Maureen]  
No, no, NO! Bad **Sarahfeena**! Don’t encourage him.  
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Ack! What did I say? I assure you that in no way was I trying to encourage **TLDR** , at least not in this thread!

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**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2008, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-incinerates-herself-abandoning-husband-in-the-name-of-the-cult-of-the-child/442622/29 "2008-03-25T02:36:28Z")

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But was she Black?

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2008, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-incinerates-herself-abandoning-husband-in-the-name-of-the-cult-of-the-child/442622/30 "2008-03-25T02:53:46Z")

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If only she spoke English this never would have happened. How tragic that her obsession with smuggling breadboards onto airplanes kept her from her job with the Hispanic bloc at the restaurant!

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**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2008, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-incinerates-herself-abandoning-husband-in-the-name-of-the-cult-of-the-child/442622/31 "2008-03-25T03:12:44Z")

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Is it that time of the month again?

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**Author:** ![supergoose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@supergoose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/supergoose)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2008, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-incinerates-herself-abandoning-husband-in-the-name-of-the-cult-of-the-child/442622/32 "2008-03-25T03:21:25Z")

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Previous to this thread, there was always part of me that thought it was still within the realm of possibility that TLDR was really posting seriously instead of, well, humorously, but now I’m certain. He must be doing it just to yank our chains as part of some bizarre comic routine.

(I have to admit, the combination of that post, the history of the person who wrote it, and the article he linked to _is_ pretty funny. I’m sorry, I don’t really know how to describe why, maybe juxtapositional humor or dead-baby-joke humor or Monty Python type deliberate obtuseness or something.)

Disclaimer: I am in no way saying that what happened to that poor woman and her daughters (and remaining family) is anything but awful and tragic. Nor am I applauding the op or denying that he is a complete shit for this. Just that he’s a _funny_ shit. Please don’t flame me.

ETA: I just realized what his post reminded me of - comically over-the-top Onion-style pieces.

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2008, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-incinerates-herself-abandoning-husband-in-the-name-of-the-cult-of-the-child/442622/33 "2008-03-25T03:28:41Z")

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**Posting the equivalent of staring blankly, then slowly lifting a raised middle finger before walking away**

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2008, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-incinerates-herself-abandoning-husband-in-the-name-of-the-cult-of-the-child/442622/34 "2008-03-25T03:28:58Z")

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Oh come on, TRDLKR is obviously trolling now. Why feed him?

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**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2008, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-incinerates-herself-abandoning-husband-in-the-name-of-the-cult-of-the-child/442622/35 "2008-03-25T03:30:37Z")

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[QUOTE=TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW]  
I hate - absolutely despise - the idea that once a woman has a child, that child becomes her **world** and everyone and everything else, including her husband, can fuck off.

[Link](http://www.newsvine.com/_news/2008/03/24/1386670-fire-kills-nh-woman-2-young-daughters)

This woman has abandoned her husband and other daughter in the name of the cult of the child; “I’d do ANYTHING for my children, even self-immolating so that my husband and other daughter grow up wifeless and motherless. ANYTHING. MY CHILD RIGHT OR WRONG.”  
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Misrepresenting a news item to this extent in order to post an inflammatory OP is nothing more than trolling. Not even very good trolling at that. This is (yet another) Warning for trolling.

Moreover, given the number of times we’ve warned you for trolling, **TLDRwhatever** , and the number of times we’ve held off warning you for likely but still borderline trolling, the general consensus among the mods is that you have no interest in stopping this behavior and it’s time for you to go.

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**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2008, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-incinerates-herself-abandoning-husband-in-the-name-of-the-cult-of-the-child/442622/36 "2008-03-25T03:31:43Z")

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It’s about goddamned time.

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**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2008, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-incinerates-herself-abandoning-husband-in-the-name-of-the-cult-of-the-child/442622/37 "2008-03-25T03:33:51Z")

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yee the fuck hah.

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**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2008, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-incinerates-herself-abandoning-husband-in-the-name-of-the-cult-of-the-child/442622/38 "2008-03-25T03:34:27Z")

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Good riddance to stupid rubbish.

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**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2008, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-incinerates-herself-abandoning-husband-in-the-name-of-the-cult-of-the-child/442622/39 "2008-03-25T03:40:05Z")

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Hooray!

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**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2008, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woman-incinerates-herself-abandoning-husband-in-the-name-of-the-cult-of-the-child/442622/40 "2008-03-25T03:45:11Z")

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Here is the [ATMB announcement](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=461087), which includes some links to the behavior that led in part to the banning.

I’ll close this thread, to avoid feeding this troll any more.

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