Woman throws cat in bin.

Bo, it’s the law, man. Being in public doesn’t give anyone a carte blanche to photograph and/or videotape you and then do whatever they want with the footage. It’s all in that link I posted before.

Um… she did what she did, and she did it in front of a camera. She’s certainly entitled to due process, but that doesn’t mean that we’re not allowed to judge her. Once again, Straight. Up. Fucked.

As for your spelling, wallow in your ignorance to your heart’s content. I won’t bother to help you out in the future.

Seriously?

I’m sure you think you’ve very impressive, but… no.

You gotta be joking, Spark. I release a video that I know is going to piss people off to the Internet and I don’t know what’s going to happen? I don’t know that people are going to try and track her down, shittalk her, pass her private info around? Anyone can see what was going to happen, A + B = C.

If he hoped that people could help identify her, rather than start stalking and harrassing her, then why didn’t he just show the footage around his neighborhood? Or why didn’t he wait to see if she showed up in the police files or database? No, he knew exactly what would happen and is probably happy it did. Unfortunately for him, that’s most likely illegal.

Go before a judge and tell him that you didn’t murder someone, you just gave him the gun to do it with. See how far that gets you.

I throw a person’s pet into a garbage bin, and I don’t know what’s going to happen?

It’s either a failure of basic reading comprehension, or a clear misuse of the term.

Both morally culpable, and potentially legally culpable actions. Two wrongs don’t make a right.

“Amoral” has other meanings besides the formal ethics concept of “amoralism.” Look it up in a dictionary! There’s a link at the bottom of the Wiki page.

Oh hell, here you go,

The bolded part is the definition I thought might be applicable, in light of remarks like,

Yes, and after the part you quoted, there’s a bunch more that qualifies the statement, acknowledging that a right to individual privacy is often weighed against public interests.

Unless I’ve missed something, nobody is advocating “carte blanche.” (I’ve actually argued elsewhere on SDMB against photographers who felt entitled to take anyone’s picture at any time in any public place, without permission.) Here, we’re talking specifically about evidence of wrongdoing, at least I am.

Are media outlets that show video of, say, police brutality then accomplices in any and all crimes that may occur during ensuing unrest?

And, what about the many “live” webcams operating at this moment, broadcasting continual video of public places to anyone who might like to see? Are they all categorically invasive and illegal? What if a crime happens to be committed in view of one?

If you had basic competency with regards to reading comprehension, you’d observe that Dan Norder was specifically talking about kidneyfailure’s confessed moral failings, which kidneyfailure incidentally expressed remorse for.

Immoral actions not amoral. I’m right, you’re wrong. Suck it up.

You may have shown the first. The second is where most people disagree with you, and the third only follows from your own belief in the second.

The harassment that this woman is receiving is wrong and if it were a choice between the video being made public with this result, and the video going to the police with no result, I’d reluctantly choose the police and let her get away with it.

Okay. I find it hard to understand why it doesn’t bother you that it was pure luck the cat didn’t suffer an unpleasant death, but okay. Do you think she was just being mean and thoughtless, without understanding what the worst consequences of her action could be?

Personally I’d want more than an apology. I’d want to reassure myself that she didn’t in fact intend a cruel death for my cat. I’d want to be sure that none of the folorn “lost cat” posters around the neighbourhood were the result of her handiwork. I’d want to see remorse.

That said, I hope she gets her life back soon. I’m fairly sure she won’t be doing it again.

But if the woman does something, knowing full well that it could cause harm or death to an innocent animal…she gets a pass? She knew exactly what could happen to that cat. She didn’t regret it until she was caught, and she ONLY regretted that people learned what sort of person she is. If she’d put the cat in the bin, and then later regretted it, she could have strolled past the bin, and then “accidentally” heard the cat. Nope, she meant to put that cat in the bin, she knew that most people would judge this to be wrong, and she took steps to make sure she wasn’t found out. She doesn’t deserve death threats, but she does deserve people calling her names. Apparently, she doesn’t give a shit about other people’s feelings.

When I was a teenager, I had a dog that I loved dearly. Someone poisoned that dog, and went on to poison other dogs in the community. If this woman is willing to “jokingly” put one cat in a bin, who knows how many other pets she’s done this to? Who knows how many people she’s caused grief? She just got caught this time.

The update where the woman says that she thought the cat would simply jump out of the bin kinda makes me more sympathetic to her, but, all the same, if you did do that ‘for a joke,’ like she says, then you’d have to stick around to make sure it did get out. Otherwise, next day could be bin day and the cat could be crushed.

Even my ex-GF, who loathes cats, thinks it’s horrible, so it’s not about loving cats; it’s about recognising that causing unnecessary harm to animals is, well, cruel. The woman definitely does not deserve death threats, but she should be prosecuted under the various cruelty to animals acts, because what she did was cruel.

Most of my pet-owning friends’ updates in the last couple of days have involved jokes about their pets being put in bins. :smiley: It’s got a lot of internet memeage because it’s such an odd and oddly amusing thing to do. ‘Cat, bin. Cat, bin. Cat, bin… Ooh, I know what to do!’

I don’t think the outrage is confined to cats, FWIW. I currently have a 10-week-old Jack Russell puppy sleeping at my feet. If someone were to grab her and stuff her in a dark place for 16 hours without food, water, light or comfort, where she’s got a good chance of being crushed to death, then yeah, I reckon I wouldn’t be the only one rather annoyed about it.

I had to laugh at this quote from [the Daily Mail article linked to previously:](Read more: Cat bin woman Mary Bale: Please forgive me, says bank worker | Daily Mail Online
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Next they’ll be saying that she kept to herself. :smiley:

I could accept the “it was just a joke” logic from a young teen, maybe a 14 year old. But I’d expect that an older teen would be able to look a bit further ahead. And this woman is in her mid 40s. She’s old enough to be a grandmother! I expect her to think about what she does, and the possible consequences of her actions. She’s either mentally or emotionally retarded, or both.

She’d probably break free in about an hour or so, no matter what the container was made of…those little JRTs have a lot of energy per ounce.

So we should insist on the right to video cops misbehaving and stick their misdeeds on youtube (you know, to show how awful all policemen are), but we’re not allowed to publish video of a woman clearly behaving antisocially in public?

Good to see the citizens acting in a responsible manner and not litter the countryside with useless trash. Many people could learn from her example on the correct way to dispose of their used pets and kids.

Even though I’m defending the cat’s owners, I’m shocked at the attention this is getting. I’m a guy who’s sensitive about cruelty against the defenseless, (I refused to watch this video until I learned the cat was ok), and I still think it’s really weird how many people are going nuts over this.

When I saw this video, knowing the cat was alive and well, I didn’t feel much anger at all. Sure some of it had to do with things turning out alright, but mostly I was glad that the woman had been identified and that the authorities could take matters into their own hands. This might not have happened if the owner left it up to the police to find the bin lady. I doubt the footage would have even made it to the news.

A lot of people overreacted. I don’t think the owners would have had a clue that the reaction would be so great, and we know they don’t condone it. But like I said before, it’s not their reasonability.

As far as privacy’s concerned; I don’t see how it’s ok for my local news to air video of teen pranksters vandalizing someone’s Christmas decorations in an attempt to try and identify them, but not ok to post bin lady’s footage on the web. The video of the vandals made it to the Internet through the news site, and was even shown on a television show a while after, (it was one of those shows that has recordings of people either breaking the law or being stupid).

It’s still her own fault. Like I said, if this were video of a woman stealing valuable property instead, I’m sure people like kidneyfailure would have a problem with the owners posting the video on the Internet. The publics response wouldn’t be as great, but the intent of the owners would be the same: catch the person that’s fucking with their shit.

It’s been asked before but, How in the world would the cat get out of the bin with the lid on?

Rather than just posting links and asserting that they support your argument, perhaps you could show me the particular parts of UK law that were broken in this instance?

I quoted them upthread. Something about photos taken in public also being considered confidential and, therefore, protected unless the public has a serious interest in seeing them. The public did not have a serious interest in seeing these. You can click the links and read the content for yourself.

Also, just because someone does something “in broad daylight” does not mean that you can tape them and then distribute it as you see fit. If I do a photo shoot in public with a professional model I still have to have his consent written on a model release form (AFAIK) before I can distribute it. If you’d like to do an experiment with this then take a video camera to your nearest beach, film all the scantily-clad young women, put it online, and then watch how many cease-and-desist orders roll in.