Woman vs Womyn

Oh, boy.

Iamthat, where do I begin? Let’s see, I’ll start with romance languages, where the plural of a word referring to a group including masculine and feminine automatically reverts to the masculine. As an example, if you’ve got a guy, “chico,” and a girl, “chica,” in Spanish, you’d refer to the two of them together as “chicos.” These languages don’t have a neuter gender as Latin and Greek did (but honestly, I don’t know about gender nouns in other, non-Romance languages, so if someone else could contribute I’d appreciate it), so it has to go to either masculine plural or feminine plural. This at least in part explains why “guys” is a gender-neutral term (and it is, at that; I find it used to refer to groups of men and women far more than I find it used to refer to specifically males). Oh no, what discrimination in choosing to go to the masculine plural! Dearieduck, we come from a long history of male domination. That’s history, it’s fact, and trying to change the language that comes down from it is, frankly, patently ridiculous. We don’t need to change “woman” and “female” to prove that times have changed, and to me it seems like a petty thing to concentrate your energies on. It’s just fucking language. Proof? Next time you go to the gym, remember that it derives from the Greek word “gymnasion,” which loosely translated as “the naked place.” Should we react and go ballistic because gyms of this day and age imply retroactively that we all oughtta be naked? What about symposia, today taken as an academic gathering of sorts? Symposia were originally drinking parties. Gasp! Better tell the English department to cancel the professor’s symposium next month – people might mistakenly get the idea that they can start drinking!

FTR, etymologically speaking, the words “male” and “female” come to us from completely different roots. “Male” derives from “masculus,” a Latin diminutive of “mas,” male. “Female” derives from Latin “femella,” a diminutive of “femina,” woman. You might think one comes from the other, but you’d be wrong (my *American Heritage Dictionary[i/] gets me that info, btw). I genuinely hope you’re not one of the people who buys the crock that “woman” derives from “woe of man.” Lovey, we ain’t that oppressed anymore, and believe it or not, changing our fucking language isn’t the way to get us out from under the horrible oppression of the patriarchy.

Finally, “femyle?” I was going to be nice about this, but fuck a buncha that: What the burning fuck? What on earth would possess you to change the “a” to a “y” of all bloody things?

Sometimes I think there’s a song for everything.

I, for one, agree. In fact, I think that as wymyn, we must separate ourselves in all respects from male-dominated vowel usage. I propose, lydyes, that we do declare our vowelar independence today!

Thyrfyry, Y thynk thyt wy shyyld symply ryplyce yll vywyls wyth y “y”, ynlyss thyy spycyfycylly ryfyr ty MEN.

Yyyrs yn pywyr,

Yymynyty.

Count me as another feminist against “womyn”. I think it’s counterproductive and idiotic - not only does it give anti-feminists something to latch on to (and alienates women who don’t want to be associated with militant feminism), but there are also far more important issues out there.

** I feminise my boyfriend’s name sometimes (from James to Jamesina) and sometimes call him “princess”. Does that count? :stuck_out_tongue:

Folks, Folks Folks…rubs his eyes and forhead
Had I known this was going to cause sucha little stir I would have posted it in GD. Actually I have to say thanks for all the good tidings and all the kindness seeping thru the seems of the boards for this thread.

I thought it an interesting point made by saffostarr and lamthat both have debatable corners in this little boggle. But lamthat has expressed a very interesting point with her short vignette about someone walking into a bar stating ‘hey guys’ and everyone, both genders, turn their heads. But walk into a bar and say ‘hey gals’ only the women turn their head…interesting…
I suppose if you want everyones attention one should just say…Folks…folks…folks…:slight_smile: ok I’m done its late…I’ll be back later…

They could always go with 133t and spell it “//0//\4||”.

It might be, but ** featherlou ** did this just for me so I’m a keepin it just the way it is. Until I make a sig change that is. :smiley: