# Women are the fairer sex. Your opinions? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [October 31, 2010, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-are-the-fairer-sex-your-opinions/558938 "2010-10-31T00:07:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Redpill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/58956e/32.png) [@Redpill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Redpill)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2010, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-are-the-fairer-sex-your-opinions/558938/81 "2010-11-01T16:58:42Z")
> [@monstro](#): > > I have the same physique pretty much that I did when I was 14, even though almost 20 years have passed. A guy could overtake me as easily now as he could back then. So essentially what this guy was saying was that _I_ shouldn’t be walking the streets either. And he wasn’t citing facts to back his assertion, but harkening back to the olden times when a woman’s “virture” was the only thing that mattered about her. Apparently it’s alright for him to play intense sports and live in constant pain because of jacked-up hips and legs, but women can’t even think about taking the risk of walking down the street because OMG!? They could be RAPED!!! Why would he focus so much on rape? That’s craziness! > > And you’re saying you wouldn’t be offended by this argument, if you were me? Now you are mixing up two things: Playing sports and going out alone at night. Going out alone _is_ more risky for women. Do you not think so? Not all women are at equal risk of being raped, thus one could consider the warning a compliment instead of being offended. ---
**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2010, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-are-the-fairer-sex-your-opinions/558938/82 "2010-11-01T17:02:24Z")
One could, if one were profoundly retarded. ---
**Author:** ![Redpill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/58956e/32.png) [@Redpill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Redpill)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2010, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-are-the-fairer-sex-your-opinions/558938/83 "2010-11-01T17:05:15Z")
Sour grapes? ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2010, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-are-the-fairer-sex-your-opinions/558938/84 "2010-11-01T17:11:09Z")
Holy shit. Someone tell me that this latest tangent is just a horrifyingly misdirected joke. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2010, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-are-the-fairer-sex-your-opinions/558938/85 "2010-11-01T17:15:32Z")
The best is when the nice police officers ask you what the hell you were doing at that hour when you got yourself, even if you were wearing a modest pair of jeans and button down t-shirt. It just means that even if you were dressed non-sluttily, you were still just that irresistible! ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2010, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-are-the-fairer-sex-your-opinions/558938/86 "2010-11-01T17:20:13Z")
> [@Redpill](#): > > Sour grapes? You have got to be kidding me. You seriously think that DianaG is upset because people might not think she’s pretty enough to be RAPED? You actually think attractiveness has something to do with being RAPED? “Oh honey, I’m so sorry you were raped. But on the bright side, this means you’re super attractive!” ---
**Author:** ![Redpill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/58956e/32.png) [@Redpill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Redpill)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2010, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-are-the-fairer-sex-your-opinions/558938/87 "2010-11-01T17:30:56Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > You actually think attractiveness has something to do with being RAPED? Absolutely. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2010, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-are-the-fairer-sex-your-opinions/558938/88 "2010-11-01T17:39:09Z")
Even though studies of rapists have shown that they look for people who seem vulnerable or like they won’t fight back and wide ranges of ages have been shown (i.e., older and non traditionally attractive women or really young girls)?\> ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2010, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-are-the-fairer-sex-your-opinions/558938/89 "2010-11-01T17:42:49Z")
**Slit** , if a rapist has a choice between two otherwise identical women, don’t you think he’d go for the more attractive of the pair? Maybe I’m incapable of thinking like a rapist but I think attractiveness has _something_ to do with it, sure. I don’t think it’s the cause (“Oh that woman is so fucking hot I just have to rape her!”), but, well, yeah. ---
**Author:** ![Redpill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/58956e/32.png) [@Redpill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Redpill)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2010, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-are-the-fairer-sex-your-opinions/558938/90 "2010-11-01T17:44:25Z")
> [@Freudian\_Slit](#): > > Even though studies of rapists have shown that they look for people who seem vulnerable or like they won’t fight back and wide ranges of ages have been shown (i.e., older and non traditionally attractive women or really young girls)?\> Yes, even though. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2010, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-are-the-fairer-sex-your-opinions/558938/91 "2010-11-01T17:49:43Z")
But it rarely happens that way that there’s two identical women and an ideal situation for rape. I’m just going on what I’ve read–that typically rapists, even when they have access to attractive women will often go for people perceived as victims. I read a case study of a gang rape of a mentally impaired girl where the rapists were all really well liked, attractive, athletic guys who often had sex with many different girls who were willing and yet they lured a naive retarded girl, who wasn’t considered all that attractive or desirable, into a basement and did some really horrible things to her. I mean, if rape was really just about getting a hot woman, why would guys who have access to “desirable” women commit rape at all? ---
**Author:** ![even\_sven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/dfb087/32.png) [@even\_sven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/even_sven)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2010, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-are-the-fairer-sex-your-opinions/558938/92 "2010-11-01T18:04:34Z")
Wow, just wow. People rape old grannies. Were these just super-hot old grannies, or did they just rape them because there were no better looking women around? The truth is that every study shows rapists are looking for whoever will be the easiest victim. If people want to target me for an act of violence because of my demographic, I am not going to let that stop me from living a full and complete life. What I am more likely to do is buy a gun and learn how to use it. Then we can talk about how women are naturally incapable of defending themselves. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2010, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-are-the-fairer-sex-your-opinions/558938/93 "2010-11-01T18:07:43Z")
Rapists rape those who are perceived as vulnerable. This has nothing to do with being pretty, or dressing like a whore, or being young. Rape happens in people’s homes and in dark alleys. Rapists are likely to be someone the victim knows. 5-10% of rape victims are male (if I recall correctly). Rape has nothing to do with sexual desperation. Rape has nothing to do with uppity women who just won’t put out. She wasn’t asking for it. It isn’t a compliment to her looks. ---
**Author:** ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2010, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-are-the-fairer-sex-your-opinions/558938/94 "2010-11-01T18:08:28Z")
According to what I’ve read, rape is usually about power, not lust. Still, count me among the ones gobsmacked and mindboggled at **Redpill** ’s comment. Not sure if I’m gonna pop any popcorn yet, but … ---
**Author:** ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2010, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-are-the-fairer-sex-your-opinions/558938/95 "2010-11-01T18:12:41Z")
> [@even\_sven](#): > > As for danger, I think the question is about what degree of precaution is reasonable to take. Women are often expected to take precautions that are WAY out of line with the actual risk. > > We had a poster a while back post that he didn’t think women should walk anywhere in Washington DC at night. As a single women in DC, who takes night classes, this would mean I’d have to drop out of school and spend most of my life under house arrest. … Recent [events](http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2010/10/29/unknown-rape-suspect-linked-to-3-attacks/)in my neck of the woods show that staying home all night will also not protect you from being raped. (The attacker has been breaking in through windows and side doors in the wee hours of the morning.)So you might as well go to your classes. ---
**Author:** ![Capt.Ridley\_s\_Shooting\_Party](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/cc9497/32.png) [@Capt.Ridley\_s\_Shooting\_Party](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capt.Ridley_s_Shooting_Party)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2010, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-are-the-fairer-sex-your-opinions/558938/96 "2010-11-01T19:01:12Z")
> [@Freudian\_Slit](#): > > Those look like two different clips that have been edited into one video, though… The very end shows the lion coming to the rescue of the lionesses. There is a clip spliced in between. [This](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2kOmTjbFM0) is the full clip. The lion targets the matriarch and breaks her back, killing her, in a single attack. ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2010, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-are-the-fairer-sex-your-opinions/558938/97 "2010-11-01T19:21:22Z")
Shucks. Remind me never to rape any of you ladies. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2010, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-are-the-fairer-sex-your-opinions/558938/98 "2010-11-01T19:52:20Z")
> [@Redpill](#): > > Sour grapes? I imagine it might appear so to someone with your perceptive and deductive powers. ---
**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2010, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-are-the-fairer-sex-your-opinions/558938/99 "2010-11-01T20:04:43Z")
> [@even\_sven](#): > > People rape old grannies. Were these just super-hot old grannies, or did they just rape them because there were no better looking women around? The truth is that every study shows rapists are looking for whoever will be the easiest victim. These claims are examples of political ideology infiltrating “science”. There are exceptions to everything, and there’s nothing easier than to prove your pet theory by pretending the alternative is some unrealistic extreme which you can easily disprove. Fact is that elderly women are far far less likely to be raped than younger women, despite them being easier victims. Which proves the opposite of your claim. Again, there are exceptions to everything. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2010, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-are-the-fairer-sex-your-opinions/558938/100 "2010-11-01T20:35:14Z")
> [@kimera](#): > > \ In fact, for a long time, female rank was completely ignored in primatology because female dominance is typically less overt than male dominance. It may be that in humans, like it is in many other primate species, females are just as aggressive as males, they just tend to be more subtle about it. As a female who works in offices (usually with a majority of other females), I can assure you that female dominance is ubiquitous and not subtle at all to other females. I don’t doubt that the males in the office are much less aware of it. > [@Redpill](#): > > \ > > Not all women are at equal risk of being raped, thus one could consider the warning a compliment instead of being offended. > [@DianaG](#): > > One could, if one were profoundly retarded. You took my answer. > [@Redpill](#): > > Sour grapes? Houston, we have confirmation. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-are-the-fairer-sex-your-opinions/558938.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-are-the-fairer-sex-your-opinions/558938.md?page=6)