# Women - do you think about boffing random strangers? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [June 24, 2016, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-do-you-think-about-boffing-random-strangers/758267 "2016-06-24T21:13:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 24
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-do-you-think-about-boffing-random-strangers/758267/24 "2016-06-25T03:37:43Z")
What **Rushgeedgirl** ([Post #5](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=19431349#post19431349)) and **jtur88** ([Post #7](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=19431375#post19431375)) said. Seriously, there’s way too much hostility from many of you females because so many of you seem to think that the only thing males want with you is a hot roll in the hay. There’s a whole lot more than that, less male-hostile and less sex-hostile, even mentioned by many female respondents in this very thread, that you don’t seem to imagine that males would like also. A female friend with whom to engage in: [ul][li] Congenial dates, consisting of social or recreational activities together: Day trips at the beach, hike in the redwoods, visit museums – all the stuff you see _ad infinitum_ in all those on-line personals ads.[/li][li] Companionship[/li][li] Affection, both emotional and physical. Holding hands (e.g., while engaging in the first bullet above), hugging, cuddling, massage, “making out”. Clothes on or clothes off. You get the picture. This is all apart from actual sex.[/ul][/li]All those “nice guys” and “Nice Guys™” who aren’t getting laid, _also_ aren’t getting any of the above. The whole concept of “gettingt laid” has become a proxy for all that – males who complain of not having any “success” with females are actually complaining about not getting any of the above – yet they are invariably flamed to hell (and not back) for complaining about “not getting laid” – when, in fact, when you read their complaints, that’s not actually what they usually said. Challenge: Find threads or blogs or whatever on the topic, on this board or elsewhere (other than outright MRA sites), and see how many of actually specifically mention “not getting laid” as their complaint. Mostly, not. Find threads or blogs or whatever where such relationship-challenged males explicitly claim “entitlement” – you won’t find that. (The only case I know of, who explicitly claimed “entitlement”, was that guy who shot up the sorority in Santa Barbara a while back, in the manifesto he left.) Yet, in response, such males are invariably thoroughly flamed, reviled, demonized, and vilified because they are accused of just wanting to “get laid” and, falsely, they are accused of feeling “entitled”. What **jtur88** said. Just like what **Rushgeekgirl** said. Males, just as much as females, want the kinds of things that I listed above. And, yes, Yes, sex is important too. Males want that as well.Nobody’s flaming any females (well, other than **ZPG Zealot** ) for the rare male-positive things they are writing in this thread. (And thanks to **beowulff** for raising this topic!) Now, when was the last time any males _didn’t_ get flamed for writing/saying/thinking the same things about females? --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-do-you-think-about-boffing-random-strangers/758267)._