# Women in PANTS??? Not in MY yearbook!!! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 26, 2005, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-in-pants-not-in-my-yearbook/292039 "2005-02-26T19:36:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![black\_rabbit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f19dbf/32.png) [@black\_rabbit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/black_rabbit)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2005, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-in-pants-not-in-my-yearbook/292039/1 "2005-02-26T19:36:04Z")
Living in the same country as [people like this](http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/apus_story.asp?category=1110&slug=Yearbook%20Tuxedo) is probably adversly affecting our brain cell count. Kinda like eating lead paint chips. > [@](#): > > GREEN COVE SPRINGS, Fla. – County school officials are backing a principal’s decision to bar a picture of a lesbian student dressed in a tuxedo from the high school yearbook. > > Sam Ward, principal of Fleming Island High School, said he pulled the senior class picture because Kelli Davis was wearing boy’s clothes. His decision was debated Thursday at a Clay County school board meeting that drew 200 people, but the board took no action, and Superintendent David Owens said the decision will stand. Wait, wait, it gets better: > [@](#): > > Others applauded Ward’s decision, including Karen Gordon, who said, **"When uniformity is compromised, then authority no longer holds."** Is this boot camp, or is this a fucking high school yearbook? _Jesus_. ---
**Author:** ![MysteryFellow63427](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e4f/32.png) [@MysteryFellow63427](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MysteryFellow63427)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2005, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-in-pants-not-in-my-yearbook/292039/2 "2005-02-26T19:37:53Z")
I must be disconnected from reality, because I can’t imagine how people could be this dumb. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2005, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-in-pants-not-in-my-yearbook/292039/3 "2005-02-26T19:47:12Z")
Conform or be cast out. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Arwin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/51bf81/32.png) [@Arwin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arwin)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2005, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-in-pants-not-in-my-yearbook/292039/4 "2005-02-26T19:51:03Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Conform or be cast out. ☹ It’s the job of the school to prepare kids for harsh reality after all. ---
**Author:** ![NinjaChick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/71c47a/32.png) [@NinjaChick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NinjaChick)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2005, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-in-pants-not-in-my-yearbook/292039/5 "2005-02-26T19:52:27Z")
I want to know what the hell her being a lesbian has to do with anything. ---
**Author:** ![kimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f0a364/32.png) [@kimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kimera)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2005, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-in-pants-not-in-my-yearbook/292039/6 "2005-02-26T19:57:47Z")
> [@NinjaChick](#): > > I want to know what the hell her being a lesbian has to do with anything. Because only lesbians wear men’s clothing!!! ---
**Author:** ![black\_rabbit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f19dbf/32.png) [@black\_rabbit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/black_rabbit)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2005, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-in-pants-not-in-my-yearbook/292039/7 "2005-02-26T19:58:35Z")
> [@NinjaChick](#): > > I want to know what the hell her being a lesbian has to do with anything. Good point. I wonder if the principal would have had a problem if she was simply going for that oh-so-retro late 80’s/early 90’s “women in suit jackets and ties” look. Or a really, really uptight riff on Avril Lavigne. ---
**Author:** ![bluecanary](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bluecanary/32/3614_2.png) [@bluecanary](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bluecanary)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2005, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-in-pants-not-in-my-yearbook/292039/8 "2005-02-26T20:00:55Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally posted by **silenus** > Conform or be cast out. _Rush_ reference? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![betenoir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/258eb7/32.png) [@betenoir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/betenoir)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2005, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-in-pants-not-in-my-yearbook/292039/9 "2005-02-26T20:05:07Z")
> [@NinjaChick](#): > > I want to know what the hell her being a lesbian has to do with anything. I’d say it has everything to do with it. Obviously girls wear pants. And they probably wouldn’t have a problem with a guy in a dress as long as it was a “joke”. My bet is if the kid in question was not an aknowelged lesbian they would have let the matter slide. Assholes. ---
**Author:** ![Siege](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dbc845/32.png) [@Siege](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siege)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2005, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-in-pants-not-in-my-yearbook/292039/10 "2005-02-26T20:13:33Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Conform or be cast out. ☹ Why not? That’s the way it was in my high school. Then again, that was over 20 years ago and my small town was generally at least 10 years behind the times. Then, of course, there’s this lovely quote “When uniformity is compromised, then authority no longer holds.” Welcome to Stepford, ladies. Check your minds at the door. You won’t be needing them. :rolleyes: CJ ---
**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2005, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-in-pants-not-in-my-yearbook/292039/11 "2005-02-26T21:05:23Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Conform or be cast out. ☹ In the high school halls… and enforced by administration and the community aparently. _sigh_ ---
**Author:** ![LilyoftheValley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/54ee81/32.png) [@LilyoftheValley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LilyoftheValley)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2005, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-in-pants-not-in-my-yearbook/292039/12 "2005-02-26T21:12:41Z")
> [@betenoir](#): > > I’d say it has everything to do with it. Obviously girls wear pants. And they probably wouldn’t have a problem with a guy in a dress as long as it was a “joke”. My bet is if the kid in question was not an aknowelged lesbian they would have let the matter slide. > > Assholes. Exactly. Because this girl is _obviously_ flaunting! her! sexuality! by wearing what she wants to wear. It’s fine, you know, as long as “they” don’t scare the horses reading the yearbook. ---
**Author:** ![Giles](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giles/32/60_2.png) [@Giles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giles)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2005, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-in-pants-not-in-my-yearbook/292039/13 "2005-02-26T21:15:28Z")
> [@](#): > > School board attorney Bruce Bickner said there is no written dress code for senior pictures, but principals have the authority to set standards. Right – unwritten standards that you only find out about after you have broken them. > [@](#): > > The student editor of the yearbook, Keri Sewell, was fired after refusing her adviser’s order to take the picture out. Well, at least one person at that high school gets out of this mess looking good. Congratulations to Keri Sewell for having the courage to stand up to an autocratic principal. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2005, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-in-pants-not-in-my-yearbook/292039/14 "2005-02-26T21:15:43Z")
Any escape might help to smooth The unattractive truth But the suburbs have no charms to soothe The restless dreams of youth The world gets scary when lyrics by Canadian power trios are coming true. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![NinjaChick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/71c47a/32.png) [@NinjaChick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NinjaChick)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2005, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-in-pants-not-in-my-yearbook/292039/15 "2005-02-26T21:22:41Z")
> [@betenoir](#): > > I’d say it has everything to do with it. Obviously girls wear pants. And they probably wouldn’t have a problem with a guy in a dress as long as it was a “joke”. My bet is if the kid in question was not an aknowelged lesbian they would have let the matter slide. > > Assholes. Ugh. Yeah. And having a female wear a little scrap of fabric that doesn’t at all cover her shoulders and is fairly low cut is nice and proper (ignoring that fact that if someone were to wear a shirt like that to school, at most places it would be against the ‘dress code’.) ---
**Author:** ![catsix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19b73/32.png) [@catsix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/catsix)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2005, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-in-pants-not-in-my-yearbook/292039/16 "2005-02-26T21:56:21Z")
> [@](#): > > **betenoir** said: > 'd say it has everything to do with it. Obviously girls wear pants. We would only know this for sure if there was another girl, a straight girl, who also wore pants in her yearbook picture and was allowed to have her picture in the yearbook. Until then, I’m willing to see this as sexism, but not necessarily anti-lesbian. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2005, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-in-pants-not-in-my-yearbook/292039/17 "2005-02-26T22:05:27Z")
> [@catsix](#): > > Until then, I’m willing to see this as sexism, but not necessarily anti-lesbian. The principal was on CNN saying that the girl was trying to use the yearbook to make a statement. Sure sounds anti-lesbian to me. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2005, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-in-pants-not-in-my-yearbook/292039/18 "2005-02-26T22:06:33Z")
Thing is, most yearbook pictures are from the waist up-I was wearing cut off JEAN shorts in mine, but you’d never know. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2005, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-in-pants-not-in-my-yearbook/292039/19 "2005-02-26T22:10:43Z")
It’s not the pants, it’s the fact that she was wearing a tux instead of a dress. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2005, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-in-pants-not-in-my-yearbook/292039/20 "2005-02-26T22:22:47Z")
> [@Lute Skywatcher](#): > > It’s not the pants, it’s the fact that she was wearing a tux instead of a dress. Sooo, if I wear a kilt, I’m not going to get my picture in the yearbook? Woo-hoo! Another pointless high school milestone vaulted! Gah, I don’t miss high school. Not even a little bit. Someone recently asked me what it was like when I went back go my high school reunion. I looked at her like her ears had turned into giant flaming Olympic torches. Stranger [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-in-pants-not-in-my-yearbook/292039.md?page=2)