# Women: share your stories of having your crotch grabbed (when you didn't want it) **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [October 9, 2016, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-share-your-stories-of-having-your-crotch-grabbed-when-you-didnt-want-it/768105 "2016-10-09T22:32:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 16
**Author:** ![araminty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b5e925/32.png) [@araminty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/araminty)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2016, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-share-your-stories-of-having-your-crotch-grabbed-when-you-didnt-want-it/768105/301 "2016-10-16T19:19:21Z")
> [@Crazyhorse](#): > > A female poster argued the ‘cat call’ video mentioned earlier looks staged, and she was summarily chewed out for typical ‘mansplaining’ and inability to let go of her male insecurity until she was revealed to be a she, at which moment that subject was completely dropped. /shrug. I dropped it because the point stands, whether it’s a male or female poster doing the filtering. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2016, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-share-your-stories-of-having-your-crotch-grabbed-when-you-didnt-want-it/768105/302 "2016-10-16T19:58:12Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Yes. This. Times 10. > > Jesus. Henry. Christ. :smack: > > If you’re inclined to a back-and-forth discussion here is another [thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=807415), started by Spice Weasel (TY!). Still trying to tell other posters how and where to post? That’s not how the culture of the board _works_. ---
**Author:** ![Crazyhorse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crazyhorse/32/31_2.png) [@Crazyhorse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crazyhorse)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2016, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-share-your-stories-of-having-your-crotch-grabbed-when-you-didnt-want-it/768105/303 "2016-10-16T20:19:32Z")
To any posts addressing me in this thread on the subject of women’s views toward men as a result of sexual assault, and my view that they have an important impact on our ability as a species to address the problem, I am reluctant to answer you in this thread anymore because it would be perpetuating what had become a hijack. Spice Weasel [started a thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=807415) about that topic specifically, so that this thread could be devoted to sharing experiences without arguing about how to solve the problem. My only motivation in posting on this subject at all is as an advocate. I’m not posting because I take anything that anyone says on a message board personally or because I feel threatened or insulted that some victims respond one way or another. I’m on quite solid and high ground in both my opinion and activism on this subject and only posted to say what, essentially, Spice Weasel wound up saying much better in her thread. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2016, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-share-your-stories-of-having-your-crotch-grabbed-when-you-didnt-want-it/768105/304 "2016-10-16T21:06:36Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > Still trying to tell other posters how and where to post? No. ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2016, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-share-your-stories-of-having-your-crotch-grabbed-when-you-didnt-want-it/768105/305 "2016-10-16T21:41:23Z")
> [@Crazyhorse](#): > > I am reluctant to answer you in this thread anymore because it would be perpetuating what had become a hijack. …I have responded to this post in the appropriate [thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=19705745&posted=1#post19705745). ---
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-share-your-stories-of-having-your-crotch-grabbed-when-you-didnt-want-it/768105/306 "2016-10-17T16:42:22Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > I don’t. There are a number of reasons: I typically drive with the window up; I typically drive with two hands on the wheel; I typically pass cars so quickly that such a gesture would be unseen and therefore meaningless to make. > > However, there are certainly times in which I do, and those typically arise in situations where traffic is slow and there is some reason to interact, such as lane merges or “after you” intersections where no one is quite sure who should proceed first. > > And in those instances, while I don’t “stick my hand out the window,” I smile and wave to indicate my assent to the proposed maneuver. > > Why do you ask? Why do I ask? Because your answer seems to imply a universal rule “The answer is yes. _You_ walk down the street, someone’s coming the other way, you smile and nod that person in passing. Man or woman.” where it’s obviously situationally dependent. Since you didn’t take that into consideration then it seems that an analogy with cars would be appropriate. I used to commute though Shinjuku train station, the world’s busiest, with several million people passing through it daily. Pretty much everything you’ve said about cars is directly appropriate to that. Where my family lives in Salt Lake City, people acknowledge each other walking on the sidewalk because you won’t see anyone else for another 20 minutes. You would look like a bobblehead in Tokyo if you tried that. ---
**Author:** ![Machine\_Elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-share-your-stories-of-having-your-crotch-grabbed-when-you-didnt-want-it/768105/307 "2016-10-17T17:21:49Z")
> [@TokyoBayer](#): > > Why do I ask? Because your answer seems to imply a universal rule “The answer is yes. _You_ walk down the street, someone’s coming the other way, you smile and nod that person in passing. Man or woman.” where it’s obviously situationally dependent. Since you didn’t take that into consideration then it seems that an analogy with cars would be appropriate. > > I used to commute though Shinjuku train station, the world’s busiest, with several million people passing through it daily. > > Pretty much everything you’ve said about cars is directly appropriate to that. > > Where my family lives in Salt Lake City, people acknowledge each other walking on the sidewalk because you won’t see anyone else for another 20 minutes. You would look like a bobblehead in Tokyo if you tried that. This all reminds me of the concept of [civil inattention,](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_inattention) which strikes me as the reasonable medium between the extremes of either: A) tipping your hat to every single person you see, or B) acting as if you are completely oblivious to every person you see. The problem (for many women, at least) is that even the low-key acknowledgement of others inherent in civil inattention is interpreted (or deliberately misinterpreted) by some men as an invitation for more personal interaction - at which point there aren’t many ways for a woman to extricate herself without the man becoming hostile. I can certainly appreciate why some women feel the safest course of action while out among the general public is to feign complete obliviousness. ---
**Author:** ![JcWoman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jcwoman/32/2889_2.png) [@JcWoman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JcWoman)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-share-your-stories-of-having-your-crotch-grabbed-when-you-didnt-want-it/768105/308 "2016-10-17T17:31:58Z")
> [@Sputnikkk](#): > > I got my girl parts grabbed for months, and it was hard to avoid because my locker was in that hall. I didn’t get grabbed every day, sometimes I dodged them and they missed, or they got the girl next to me instead. The same thing happened to lots of other girls, including some of my friends. And the strange thing was, we never told any adults about these boys doing this, or even talked to each other about the boys who grabbed us. Other boys and girls saw it happen too, and never talked about it. We all just rushed by to class and tried not to look. It was as if we all thought if we act like it never happened, it never happened. I think individually we feared embarrassment and humiliation, above all else. We didn’t want people to point fingers at us and say “that girl was grabbed in the p\_\_\_sy,” which would be so embarrassing it would be worse than actually being grabbed in the pussy. So as long as we didn’t talk about it, it never happened. I would like to piggy back on your post, if I may. I suspect that another thing men don’t fully realize is how traumatic puberty is for young girls. (Some women may disagree with me, but this is my impression based on a few things that I can add later if there’s interest.) It’s hard enough as it is when your body suddenly changes, but then you get all kinds of intense attention to specific body parts. Instead of exulting in the new attention, most young women feel humiliated, embarrassed and even targeted. As Sputnikkk describes above and as I’ll describe here: Another issue I had that while nobody actually touched me was still sexual harrassment: When I was a freshman in high school, I got my boobs and period. It was all new to me, so I didn’t have really any clue. I started to notice that some boys would seem to heckle each other whenever I was nearby. They never addressed me personally, but I overheard comments like “oh, she wants you”, leering glances, a lot of snickering and whispers. This went on for a few weeks until one day I happened to catch my reflection in a window as I passed by. Despite wearing a bra, my nipples were Mount Everest. I was so mortified that I switched to padded bras after that, and have been wearing padded bras ever since. Also, after I fixed the bra problem, the boys quickly lost interest in me, so that’s how I knew that was the cause. I also couldn’t wear any graphic t-shirt for a few decades after puberty because I hated when boys would stare at my chest. So better to not give anybody another reason to look at my chest. I’ve never been successful at explaining these feelings to the men in my life. I don’t hate my body. I just don’t want too much attention paid to it. It’s the definition of objectification, I know. But men don’t seem to see it the same way. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-share-your-stories-of-having-your-crotch-grabbed-when-you-didnt-want-it/768105/309 "2016-10-17T21:22:32Z")
Oh, you aren’t kidding. I started my period when I was nine, and was a C cup in fourth grade. I was way ahead of the curve on puberty and it was discussed extensively by the other boys. The first time I was hit on by an adult male (not my stepfather), I was thirteen. How do you even begin to wrap your head around that kind of attention at that age? The abuse started at age 11 and it totally messed with my sexual development. You associate your changing body with the abuse and you develop the idea that you are required to be acquiescent to male demands regardless of what you want. I couldn’t have normal relationships at that age. I had a boyfriend in 8th grade I really liked. One day at lunch he put his hand on my thigh, as boys are wont to do. It scared the shit out of me. Was he going to make me do other stuff? Notice I say MAKE even though the poor dude had no clue I felt pressured. In my mind, consent wasn’t even an option I had. I broke up with him through a friend, could not even face him after that. I even stopped masturbating because I had a nightmare that my abuser found out and blackmailed me, or that it somehow meant I wanted his attention. I didn’t have another boyfriend until I was 17, and it was a pretty coercive relationship that eventually turned abusive. My sexual development was effectively stunted until, I am sorry to say, well into my 20s. Part of what got me out of it is my Aunt had a really healthy attitude toward sex and always stressed communication. I knew about my tendency to freeze up and concede so I discussed that with Sr. Weasel up front when we started dating. We have to have those conversations in advance because I can’t articulate my discomfort in the moment sometimes. Yes, those early experiences stay with you a long time. Sent from my Nexus 5X using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Tee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@Tee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tee)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-share-your-stories-of-having-your-crotch-grabbed-when-you-didnt-want-it/768105/310 "2016-10-17T23:36:51Z")
> [@JcWoman](#): > > I’ve never been successful at explaining these feelings to the men in my life. I don’t hate my body. I just don’t want too much attention paid to it. It’s the definition of objectification, I know. But men don’t seem to see it the same way. This is definitely a residual effect for me, and this might be the first time I’ve seen it described, so thanks for that. It’s not an everyday thing anymore. I think of it as Big Sweater Day. And I do admire people who have had these conversations with their partners. All I can imagine is how that can go bad really fast, so…nope. ---
**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-share-your-stories-of-having-your-crotch-grabbed-when-you-didnt-want-it/768105/311 "2016-10-18T01:50:08Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > Oh yeah – a mentally retarded teenager grabbed my breast and fondled it, once. His father made him stop and apologize. He clearly had the mental age of a toddler (with the libido of a teen) though, and his father was there to keep him in check, so that wasn’t terribly upsetting. It was more of a “this must be really hard for him and his parents” kind of situation. I worked at a summer camp for mentally retarded and emotionally disturbed adults. Yes, in 1980 those were the terms used and those are the terms I’m using now. There was a swimming pool. A client - perhaps 25 or so- was standing by the pool near me. She loudly said my name and I turned to hear, " I love you Cartooniverse ! " and see her pull down half of her tank top. One breast popped out. I was pretty mortified and frozen, but a more experienced female staff member turned her away, got her rearranged and gently told her that wasn’t okay to do. Physically 25. Mentally… 5? It’s never occurred to me to do this kind of thing to a woman. Then again, I was sexually abused by a teacher in High School for a few years so my tolerance for and interest in that kind of behavior tends to go towards … violently negative. ---
**Author:** ![Chicken\_Fingers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Chicken\_Fingers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chicken_Fingers)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-share-your-stories-of-having-your-crotch-grabbed-when-you-didnt-want-it/768105/312 "2016-10-18T17:22:18Z")
To answer the original post, I couldn’t even begin to count the number of times in my life that I was out in public, minding my own business, and men approached me, put their hands on me, spoke inappropriately, followed me, etc. This started when I was 13. I experienced the usual coercive date rape attempts in college. On a daily basis, from the age of 13, I experienced unwanted milder forms of attention from men, where they’d stare or outright leer, get too close, come up and tell me to smile, try to make me talk to them, etc. Now I’m old and unattractive. I still have to watch out for rapists, as a woman, but what load off of me otherwise. Except my daughter is about to turn 13, and I fear for her having to deal with this. Half a century has gone by, and it’s no better for my daughter. ---
**Author:** ![Nawth\_Chucka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c57346/32.png) [@Nawth\_Chucka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nawth_Chucka)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-share-your-stories-of-having-your-crotch-grabbed-when-you-didnt-want-it/768105/313 "2016-10-18T18:30:59Z")
> [@Cartooniverse](#): > > It’s never occurred to me to do this kind of thing to a woman. Then again, I was sexually abused by a teacher in High School for a few years so my tolerance for and interest in that kind of behavior tends to go towards … violently negative. That it still affects you is clear; I hate they did that to you. I’m glad for you that you’re not so riddled w/ anger (as I might be if I were you) that it colors your every day. ---
**Author:** ![Tee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@Tee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tee)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-share-your-stories-of-having-your-crotch-grabbed-when-you-didnt-want-it/768105/314 "2016-10-19T03:19:24Z")
> [@Cartooniverse](#): > > I worked at a summer camp for mentally retarded and emotionally disturbed adults. Yes, in 1980 those were the terms used and those are the terms I’m using now. > > There was a swimming pool. A client - perhaps 25 or so- was standing by the pool near me. She loudly said my name and I turned to hear, " I love you Cartooniverse ! " and see her pull down half of her tank top. One breast popped out. > > I was pretty mortified and frozen, but a more experienced female staff member turned her away, got her rearranged and gently told her that wasn’t okay to do. Physically 25. Mentally… 5? > > It’s never occurred to me to do this kind of thing to a woman. Then again, I was sexually abused by a teacher in High School for a few years so my tolerance for and interest in that kind of behavior tends to go towards … violently negative. In my sexual abuse support group in high school, there were about eight kids, including two boys. We were all referred to this group by various people mainly because we were all, shall we say, in the early stages of screwing up our lives and had attracted the attention of concerned adults who wanted to know why. I answered honestly, “I don’t know”, which it turns out is the standard answer of most messed-up kids – nobody had a clue. So I learned a lot. At the time, I was not surprised that boys were victims too. It’s more surprising in retrospect, how at one point I had clear evidence that the ratio of male to female victims was about 1:3, but over time (to me) the male victims, or rather their voices, mostly disappeared…I feel like people are missing. Thanks for speaking up. ---
**Author:** ![Ulfreida](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ulfreida/32/8014_2.png) [@Ulfreida](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulfreida)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-share-your-stories-of-having-your-crotch-grabbed-when-you-didnt-want-it/768105/315 "2016-10-19T04:59:03Z")
It’s been a long time now since I was young and subject to all that crap. I’d say the first time I was grabbed by a stranger I was probably seven or so. A neighborhood boy, part of the pack of kids who roamed around after school. It had all the elements I became so familiar with later, the shock of the pounce out of the blue, the sudden bizarre violation, (he kissed me, that was my ‘first kiss’ I guess), and then the wash of humiliation and just wanting it to have never happened. He ran away laughing with his friends, having won something, I don’t know what. I have had all the usual common things happen. The guy who gave me a ride but there was no handle on the inside of my door. The men who would grab my breasts if I got close, or run their hand up my skirt. The guy rubbing his crotch against me in a packed city bus. The near-rapes at parties. Lucky for me I was never actually raped, some of that due to my suspicious nature and some, I am sure, was just luck. Also lucky to not have ended up in a family with sexually abusive men in it. Possibly because my birth family was mostly women, there was just my dad and grandpa and everyone else was a woman. I didn’t speak to anyone about any of it, and none of the women I knew did either, except in passing. It was like bad weather, something to be avoided if you could and endured if you couldn’t. There was nothing to be done about it. What surprises me about the millions of responses to the original twitter invitation is not that there are millions of responses. Of course there are. It’s that so many men are genuinely surprised, so surprised that they can hardly believe it, as though there’s a whole world being lived right next to them they’ve never encountered. Well duh. I don’t know any women who would be surprised. It doesn’t surprise me that many men try desperately to argue or insult it away, or make it be about them personally, somehow. That’s also just the weather, just the way it always has been, hardly worthy of comment. I’m old enough to have come of age in the 1970’s, when feminism was as fresh and raw as could be. And fought against by men with everything they had, the whole arsenal of blaming, humiliating, denigrating, mocking, and worse. I remember the white hot rage I felt. Sort of. It was a long time ago and I was quite a different person. A much more vulnerable person. It’s such a blessing being old enough that strange men don’t see me any more. I just don’t appreciate that enough. Being a person instead of a woman. What a grace that is. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-share-your-stories-of-having-your-crotch-grabbed-when-you-didnt-want-it/768105/316 "2016-10-19T14:41:10Z")
> [@Tee](#): > > … > So I learned a lot. At the time, I was not surprised that boys were victims too. It’s more surprising in retrospect, how at one point I had clear evidence that the ratio of male to female victims was about 1:3, but over time (to me) the male victims, or rather their voices, mostly disappeared…I feel like people are missing. > > … my husband was groped as a boy. He was in a movie theater, watching an action movie. And in the middle of an exciting fight scene, the man next to him reached over and fondled his junk. But I think that was the only time he was sexually assaulted. ---
**Author:** ![Machine\_Elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-share-your-stories-of-having-your-crotch-grabbed-when-you-didnt-want-it/768105/317 "2016-10-19T16:58:08Z")
[A very timely Savage Love column today.](http://www.thestranger.com/savage-love/2016/10/19/24625367/savage-love) ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-share-your-stories-of-having-your-crotch-grabbed-when-you-didnt-want-it/768105/318 "2016-10-19T17:44:53Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > my husband was groped as a boy. He was in a movie theater, watching an action movie. And in the middle of an exciting fight scene, the man next to him reached over and fondled his junk. > > But I think that was the only time he was sexually assaulted. Based on the stats it looks like boys are abused almost as frequently as girls. As boys become men, they are less likely to be victimized. It’s pretty obvious to me why there is a gender disparity here. Sexual predators go for people who are weaker than they are. Boys are effectively as helpless as girls at that age. Once they are older, they are more of a threat and harder to exploit. I’m still trying to wrap my head around a ‘sexual abuse support group’ in school. ---
**Author:** ![Barrett\_Bonden](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5e9695/32.png) [@Barrett\_Bonden](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barrett_Bonden)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2016, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-share-your-stories-of-having-your-crotch-grabbed-when-you-didnt-want-it/768105/319 "2016-10-25T17:54:34Z")
[Recent story](http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/news-and-views/social/a-woman-livetweeted-a-airline-groping-incident-then-posted-the-offenders-photo-when-nothing-was-done-20161024-gs996r.html) about how a guy groped and attempted to kiss several women on a plane. One of his victims who complained was told that the perpetrator would receive a “talking to,” and that it wasn’t “the crime of the century.” Hearing this, she tweeted his photograph, since it was really no big deal. ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2016, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-share-your-stories-of-having-your-crotch-grabbed-when-you-didnt-want-it/768105/320 "2016-10-25T18:53:39Z")
They make it quite difficult for her to press charges, don’t they? I guess public shaming is all you can do…it’s almost like we’re returning to the days of locking someone in stocks. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-share-your-stories-of-having-your-crotch-grabbed-when-you-didnt-want-it/768105.md?page=15) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-share-your-stories-of-having-your-crotch-grabbed-when-you-didnt-want-it/768105.md?page=17)