# Women: share your stories of having your crotch grabbed (when you didn't want it) **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [October 9, 2016, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-share-your-stories-of-having-your-crotch-grabbed-when-you-didnt-want-it/768105 "2016-10-09T22:32:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-share-your-stories-of-having-your-crotch-grabbed-when-you-didnt-want-it/768105/161 "2016-10-12T13:43:28Z")
If a man smiles and says “hello” I will respond the same. Then I listen to my instinct. If he starts an innocent conversation in public, I’ll talk. If he gets creepy, I get the hell away from him. I’m not above screaming “Leave me alone” in public. Ann Rule believes many women who were not taken in by serial rapist and murderer Ted Bundy survived because they obeyed their instincts. If he seems creepy, do not encourage him. When I was standing on a crowded bus, a guy grabbed my ass. I immediately said very loudly “Please get your hand off my ass.” The driver stopped the bus and had the guy get off. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-share-your-stories-of-having-your-crotch-grabbed-when-you-didnt-want-it/768105/162 "2016-10-12T13:49:01Z")
> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#): > > Regarding the expected-smile thing - my apologies to the women for being skeptical up until now. It’s just so science-fiction weird that I had trouble believing it could be so real or widespread. What kind of person thinks they’re entitled to have a woman smile at him? Well, I guess now I know. Thanks AK84! If we smile some men (NOT ALL MEN!!!) will take that half-assed smile as a mating signal, things sometimes escalate when you try to extricate yourself from the situation. If, because you want to avoid the above, you seldom smile back at strangers, you get things like this: > [@AK84](#): > > Well, going by what you wrote if you act like a rude, prickly bitch then don’t be surprised of you get treated like one. If you are going to be boorish and hostile, you are going to get it back with interest. We can’t win, can we? And on top of that, the good guys often don’t believe us, because goddammit, “I would never act like that!”, so they can’t believe anyone would. Ask women, and believe when they tell you. Pretty young women get it more, clearly, but it started for me when I was a skinny, short (I am fully-grown at 5’1"), awkward, shy pre-teen. The exact opposite of sexually attractive in normal people’s books. Read above, this is not uncommon. I’ve had men follow me calling me names because I didn’t smile back, or because I did. Does it happen everyday? No, it’s thankfully rare, but it happens many times in a woman’s life. We’re not humble-bragging, this doesn’t make us feel sexy, or wanted. It makes us feel accosted, afraid, humiliated. ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-share-your-stories-of-having-your-crotch-grabbed-when-you-didnt-want-it/768105/163 "2016-10-12T14:10:24Z")
> [@Mighty\_Girl](#): > > We can’t win, can we? And on top of that, the good guys often don’t believe us, because goddammit, “I would never act like that!”, so they can’t believe anyone would. Just a minor clarification, the disbelief isn’t just from “I would never act like that.” I have also never witnessed that. I have never heard any man talk about that experience. The concept is so foreign that it’s like expecting someone to pull their earlobe when crossing the street. This is not because I’m a “nice guy”, just because this phenomenon exists totally outside my experience and imagination. That, in itself, is strange and disturbing. From social media exposure, after hearing this story repeated hundreds of times, I can’t deny that it’s real (and it’s a shame it took hundreds of repetitions). It feels like realizing there are lizard people living among us. Again, this isn’t skepticism, just ongoing shock. ---
**Author:** ![Grim\_Render](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@Grim\_Render](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grim_Render)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-share-your-stories-of-having-your-crotch-grabbed-when-you-didnt-want-it/768105/164 "2016-10-12T14:37:28Z")
> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#): > > Just a minor clarification, the disbelief isn’t just from “I would never act like that.” I have also never witnessed that. I have never heard any man talk about that experience. The concept is so foreign that it’s like expecting someone to pull their earlobe when crossing the street. > > This is not because I’m a “nice guy”, just because this phenomenon exists totally outside my experience and imagination. That, in itself, is strange and disturbing. From social media exposure, after hearing this story repeated hundreds of times, I can’t deny that it’s real (and it’s a shame it took hundreds of repetitions). It feels like realizing there are lizard people living among us. Again, this isn’t skepticism, just ongoing shock. This is not really surprising though. Like I posted earlier, the rate of people who do this / people who don’t, must be in the tens of thousands to one. So it will be quite foreign to most males. To add to that I expect the perps normally avoid doing this in settings where the target is not with a male friend, so you generally wont see it happen either. ---
**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-share-your-stories-of-having-your-crotch-grabbed-when-you-didnt-want-it/768105/165 "2016-10-12T14:37:41Z")
What gets me is the above demonstration that if you don’t acquiesce to ‘owing someone a smile,’ then a grown ass adult thinks they are justified in returning your non-compliance :dubious: with rudeness. What the hell? You’ve done absolutely nothing but go about your way and mind your own business, yet a complete stranger has passed judgment on you and decided to punish you for not behaving as _they_ deem necessary, all without you knowing. Charming, eh? I just really appreciate that this example has totally served to bring all these stories to life. Who knew we’d get someone in this very thread serving as the example everyone was talking about? ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-share-your-stories-of-having-your-crotch-grabbed-when-you-didnt-want-it/768105/166 "2016-10-12T14:53:14Z")
> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#): > > Regarding the expected-smile thing - my apologies to the women for being skeptical up until now. It’s just so science-fiction weird that I had trouble believing it could be so real or widespread. What kind of person thinks they’re entitled to have a woman smile at him? Well, I guess now I know. Thanks AK84! > > Smiling is a friendly gesture. It’s not courtesy. Nobody owes you a smile except maybe a friend. As for courtesy, that’s just a set of behaviors to signal “hey, I’m not out to screw you over.” Society functions better at every level when people are courteous, but everyone has the right not to give you the time of day if they don’t feel like it. You’re entitled to respond in kind, but you’re not entitled to demand that they give you the time of day. > > There is a social milieu wherein you can demand that someone literally greet you and give you the time of day. It’s called military courtesy. If you want to be in an environment like that, join the military (and work on getting yourself some rank). Yeah, I don’t expect random people on the street to smile at me. I do expect that when I deal with a person(s) that I will treat them with courtesy and that will hopefully be reciprocated. [QUOTE=Ascenray] No, no stranger owes you a smile. Period. The idea that a strange woman refusing to return your smile or greeting when you have no business with her is a “rude, prickly bitch” is exceedingly presumptuous and an exercise of male privilege. [/QUOTE] Courtesy can mean many things in context.In can mean a smile (if culturally appropriate). It can mean ignoring. It can mean looking away. If you are going to be outwardly hostile and obnoxious because of apprehensions, then don’t be surprised if people push back against it. Like Obama gave the example, a few years ago, women clutching their purses and holding their breath in an elevator when she was in the elevator with him. No one is asking that anyone smiles at all (male or female). But imminently tensing up and presuming one is some sort of criminal? [QUOTE=Annie Xmas] If a man smiles and says “hello” I will respond the same. Then I listen to my instinct. If he starts an innocent conversation in public, I’ll talk. If he gets creepy, I get the hell away from him. I’m not above screaming “Leave me alone” in public. [/QUOTE] Exactly. Be polite, be respectful and you will be treated the same. If he or she is actually creepy, then by all means do all that is necessary to extricate oneself. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-share-your-stories-of-having-your-crotch-grabbed-when-you-didnt-want-it/768105/167 "2016-10-12T14:58:06Z")
> [@Grim\_Render](#): > > To add to that I expect the perps normally avoid doing this in settings where the target is not with a male friend, so you generally wont see it happen either. I have seen some vicious cat calling when a woman is with a male or even several males. Although sometimes, one feels that a local tough just wants to show off and start a fight. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-share-your-stories-of-having-your-crotch-grabbed-when-you-didnt-want-it/768105/168 "2016-10-12T15:16:59Z")
AK84, I have no idea what you’re talking about now. The whole “men demanding smiles from women” thing has nothing to do with courtesy or rudeness or people who are actually engaged in a mutual social or business transaction. It’s about men demanding that the women in their vicinity be smiling. If you’re making general points about people being rude, then that has nothing to do with what women are complaining about. ---
**Author:** ![gracer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8e7dd6/32.png) [@gracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gracer)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-share-your-stories-of-having-your-crotch-grabbed-when-you-didnt-want-it/768105/169 "2016-10-12T15:17:18Z")
> [@Annie-Xmas](#): > > If a man smiles and says “hello” I will respond the same. Then I listen to my instinct. If he starts an innocent conversation in public, I’ll talk. If he gets creepy, I get the hell away from him. I’m not above screaming “Leave me alone” in public. That’s pretty much what I do. Life is messy and complicated, though. Creeps aren’t necessarily idiots and they can start out all innocent. Then before you know it, you’ve spent all this effort extricating yourself, AGAIN. I like to have a quick coffee in the sun on the pavement outside my house. It gets me some vit D and obviously, some contact with the neighbours. Most people say a polite “Morning!” and I respond in kind. It’s nice. A few days ago I had three creeps in a row! This almost never happens in my quiet one-way street, so I was pretty annoyed. They all started with: “Can I ask you something” - of course I said: “Absolutely!” They might need directions, or the time. I’d be glad to help. But no, it was all an elaborate ruse to keep pushing, keep going “can I come inside with you?” on to “come out with me” then “fine, give me your number then”, of course the old “but I’m OK with you being married”, ending in fuckingbitchcuntwhore when I stick to “NO”. One guy asked me for money in the end (WTF?!) The other insisted on writing his number in my notebook. I let him, because it is safer and easier to let someone write their number in your notebook than it is to tell them to fuck off. So plenty of friendliness, plenty of courtesy, plenty of interaction from me. I’m not scared. I realise that if I sit outside my house with coffee I invite people to talk - that’s fine. But sometimes, on an unlucky day, it’s so much hassle just trying to do normal life with men being intrusive jerks. It’s a whole lot of time, effort and diplomacy that I need to spend on asswipes and dipshits. If all the nice men suffer greatly for the loss of my smile as a result of said asswipes and dipshits, I can only say: cry me a fucking river. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![SmellMyWort](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SmellMyWort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmellMyWort)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-share-your-stories-of-having-your-crotch-grabbed-when-you-didnt-want-it/768105/170 "2016-10-12T15:17:56Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > Yeah, I don’t expect random people on the street to smile at me. I do expect that when I deal with a person(s) that I will treat them with courtesy and that will hopefully be reciprocated. Oh come on. This whole discussion and the women you’ve been responding (rudely) to have all been talking about being bugged by random strangers, not people they’re “dealing with” in the course of their day. Are you really having that hard of a time following along? ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-share-your-stories-of-having-your-crotch-grabbed-when-you-didnt-want-it/768105/171 "2016-10-12T15:21:44Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > If you are going to be outwardly hostile and obnoxious because of apprehensions, then don’t be surprised if people push back against it. And from my saying that I don’t usually smile back at “ **STRANGE** ” men you came to the conclusion that I > [@](#): > > act like a rude, prickly bitch and that I shouldn’t > [@](#): > > be surprised of you get treated like one. And that I was acting > [@](#): > > boorish and hostile and > [@](#): > > you are going to get it back with interest. And > [@](#): > > You are not that pretty. Not everyone (or even most) who is courteous and friendly wants to sleep with you. . when I didn’t even mention my level of attractiveness – or lack thereof – except in a self-deprecating manner, pointing that as a middle-aged woman I am mostly left alone now. Right? Copy. Here’s [your post](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19693371&postcount=119), in case you want to re-read what you wrote. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-share-your-stories-of-having-your-crotch-grabbed-when-you-didnt-want-it/768105/172 "2016-10-12T15:40:56Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > AK84, I have no idea what you’re talking about now. The whole “men demanding smiles from women” thing has nothing to do with courtesy or rudeness or people who are actually engaged in a mutual social or business transaction. It’s about men demanding that the women in their vicinity be smiling. > > If you’re making general points about people being rude, then that has nothing to do with what women are complaining about. Well obviously you won’t follow since you have been too busy trying to shoehorn trite phrases like “male privilege” into your posts replying to me as opposed to you know, actually arguing your points. For the record, I have been very clear. If you are aggressive, pushy and rude to a person only because of their perceived threat to you, then you should expect push back.Thats true, whether or you are a man, a woman, a child. No one has a right to make you feel uncomfortable, and if they are, you do whatever it takes to protect yourself, but I find it very strange that you (and others) find the very existance and presence of people to be a threat. ---
**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-share-your-stories-of-having-your-crotch-grabbed-when-you-didnt-want-it/768105/173 "2016-10-12T15:47:19Z")
Not a single commenter here has advocated being “aggressive, pushy or rude” to a man because they’re afraid of him. The only person who has brought that up is you, in response to women talking about not smiling at random guys on the street. Is it heavy moving those goal posts all over the place? ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-share-your-stories-of-having-your-crotch-grabbed-when-you-didnt-want-it/768105/174 "2016-10-12T15:48:22Z")
I have had strange men tell me to smile my whole life. I guess I have resting bitch face. I don’t regard it as a courtesy. You have no idea why I’m not smiling. Perhaps I am worried about my dad, or today is the anniversary of my mom’s death, or the doctor called to follow up on something. Maybe my boss chewed me out or I got into a fight with my boyfriend. Some random guy telling me to smile doesn’t improve my day, and it’s not courteous. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-share-your-stories-of-having-your-crotch-grabbed-when-you-didnt-want-it/768105/175 "2016-10-12T15:55:28Z")
> [@Mighty\_Girl](#): > > And from my saying that I don’t usually smile back at “ **STRANGE** ” men you came to the conclusion that I > and that I shouldn’tAnd that I was acting and And . when I didn’t even mention my level of attractiveness – or lack thereof – except in a self-deprecating manner, pointing that as a middle-aged woman I am mostly left alone now. > > Right? Copy. > > Here’s [your post](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19693371&postcount=119), in case you want to re-read what you wrote. Yes, thats what I wrote. And it was in response to your post specifically > [@](#): > > What’s wrong with a smile and a “hello”? You see, many of us once smiled back and the creep took it as evidence of interest. It may have even ended in the guy getting verbally abusive, stalkerish, or worse.\*\* We don’t know you. Maybe you are a great guy, but we have no way of knowing, because that other guy also didn’t look like an asshole\*\*. And I stated tin response to that specific > [@](#): > > Well, going by what you wrote if you act like a rude, prickly bitch then don’t be surprised of you get treated like one. If you are going to be boorish and hostile, you are going to get it back with interest. If you are going to treat everyone as a potential rapist or molester regardless of how they actually behave or act, then yeah guys will at annoyed at you. Except, the actual genital grabbers, and the actual molesters, they deserve everything and more. Not the guy who acts like a decent human being and gets trampled on for his troubles. > > If we are going to play “broad brush the gender” like you do, then here’another s one; women are very bad at reading men evidently. You are not that pretty. Not everyone (or even most) who is courteous and friendly wants to sleep with you. He might (gasp) be being friendly because that’s the way he is, not because he wants to give you a good seeing to. In other words you said that you treat every guy as an abuser or stalker, and I replied that if you did that, you should not be surprised that people are rude back to you, because no one likes (or deserves) being treated like a criminal when they have not done anything. And I pointed out that two can play at the “gender broad brush” game. Do you actually wish to have a discussion on the thread topic? Or as I suspect, you only wish to make a statement and get applauded and are miffed that not everyone is lining up to agree with you. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-share-your-stories-of-having-your-crotch-grabbed-when-you-didnt-want-it/768105/176 "2016-10-12T15:58:52Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > Yes, thats what I wrote. And it was in response to your post specifically > > And I stated tin response to that specific > > In other words you said that you treat every guy as an abuser or stalker, and I replied that if you did that, you should not be surprised that people are rude back to you, because no one likes (or deserves) being treated like a criminal when they have not done anything. And I pointed out that two can play at the “gender broad brush” game. > > Do you actually wish to have a discussion on the thread topic? Or as I suspect, you only wish to make a statement and get applauded and are miffed that not everyone is lining up to agree with you. Not smiling at every guy is treating every guy as an abuser or stalker? ---
**Author:** ![kayT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayt/32/3633_2.png) [@kayT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayT)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-share-your-stories-of-having-your-crotch-grabbed-when-you-didnt-want-it/768105/177 "2016-10-12T16:00:46Z")
Dear **AK84** , In case it’s not perfectly clear to you yet, the vast majority of us in this thread do not agree with your point of view and actually are not even talking about the same things you are talking about. I think maybe if you read what we are writing you might have a better idea where we are coming from but apparently you do not intend to do that. So, may I suggest that you go someplace else and stop starting fights in this thread? Please. Just go. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-share-your-stories-of-having-your-crotch-grabbed-when-you-didnt-want-it/768105/178 "2016-10-12T16:00:47Z")
> [@joyfool](#): > > Not a single commenter here has advocated being “aggressive, pushy or rude” to a man because they’re afraid of him. The only person who has brought that up is you, in response to women talking about not smiling at random guys on the street. > > Is it heavy moving those goal posts all over the place? **Mighty\_Girl** did. There is a big difference between saying “I don’t smile at random strangers” and I treat every guy like he is a potential rapist which is what she says she does. That is certainly being rude and boorish. Indeed, I even asked her what she meant by “demand for smiles”, her words, not mine. From post 119. > [@](#): > > Actual threats, actuals attacks on dignity (and cat calling is certainly one of those) are one thing, but what the hell is "demand for smiles: anyway? A demand you not actually be rude and boorish? Thats a fair demand for anyone of any gender ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-share-your-stories-of-having-your-crotch-grabbed-when-you-didnt-want-it/768105/179 "2016-10-12T16:00:53Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > In other words you said that you treat every guy as an abuser or stalker, and I replied that if you did that, you should not be surprised that people are rude back to you, because no one likes (or deserves) being treated like a criminal when they have not done anything. And I pointed out that two can play at the “gender broad brush” game. And that would be true if I hadn’t written a paragraph before that one where I make it clear I am talking about strangers. So yeah, prickly bitch who deserves the abuse… Copy. This is my post in its entirety, bolding mine: > [@](#): > > A word to men, if I may:\*\* Do you often greet strange men, and smile at them?\*\* Pretend women are men, if that helps. I don’t care if from now on it’s only “children first” when the ship is sinking. > > What’s wrong with a smile and a “hello”? You see, many of us once smiled back and the creep took it as evidence of interest. It may have even ended in the guy getting verbally abusive, stalkerish, or worse. We don’t know you. Maybe you are a great guy, but we have no way of knowing, because that other guy also didn’t look like an asshole. > > Mercifully I don’t remember anything of the seriousness some women here have described, but the cat-calling, the demands for smiles, the aggressive demands for attention, the reaching hands were a normal thing for me. Many times I feared it would escalate, and feared for my safety. And it started from before puberty, so that was a rough wake up call. > > Thank goodness I am a middle-aged woman and not as attractive anymore. Now I just have to worry about my daughter, so it’s actually worse. ---
**Author:** ![kayT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayt/32/3633_2.png) [@kayT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayT)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-share-your-stories-of-having-your-crotch-grabbed-when-you-didnt-want-it/768105/180 "2016-10-12T16:03:24Z")
Oh, and by the way the title of this thread is “Women: share your stories…”. So, **AK** , you are not a woman apparently, so please go away. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-share-your-stories-of-having-your-crotch-grabbed-when-you-didnt-want-it/768105.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-share-your-stories-of-having-your-crotch-grabbed-when-you-didnt-want-it/768105.md?page=10)