I’m a guy, sweetheart.
Your points make no sense, even when stripped of the non sequiturs about babies, heart-shaped pools and real estate agents. If women are less logical than men, I’d hate to have an argument with your sister. Though I guess I wouldn’t have to contend with logical devices such as the floating point system for establishing liberal bias ™.
So any other aspiration by a woman is bullshit? Can’t you, in your infinite wisdom, grant them a pretty dress, a bunch of flowers and a white wedding? All women want that.
I think it’s becoming increasingly obvious that you’ve never known a woman at all.
Funnily enough, I hit “reply” as soon as I read the word “Ayn”…
I think there have been many brilliant women in the past century - they just don’t get as much fanfare.
Hell, name some famous MALE philosophers since 1900, Millie.
Ohmigod! I forgot to have children!!!
Only in some primal evolutionary sense. And on that level, the following is also true:
The prime purpose of the male of our species is to reproduce and then to raise his offspring until the age of reproduction.
Of course, most males and females have enough logic to figure out that human offspring actually need nurturing beyond the age of ten. And neither gender has been limited to these purposes for what – a hundred thousand years?
“The Liberation” is not a date; it is a movement which continues for obvious reasons to the even mildly observant. Some female philosophers, present and past:
http://bailiwick.lib.uiowa.edu/wstudies/gallery.html
I’m curious. Haven’t you read the works of any of these women, Milum? What about other female philosophers not listed here?
I live for the day when the kind of things that you post here about women are seen for what they are – just as hateful as speech which denigrates people of color or those who hold religious beliefs different to our own.
Zoe, that link of yours is questionable. If bell hooks (lack of capitalization her preference) is a philosopher, I am the Sultan of Brunei. She is just a mediocre writer with a chip on her shoulder the size of Khufu’s pyramid who likes to tell people how to live and tends to use the term ‘hedonistic consumerism’ about four times a page.
Sounds like a philosopher to me! 
[QUOTE=Milum]
2. Name one great female philosophers…no, no, silly, I mean a great female philosophers of modern times. You know, like after the liberation./QUOTE]
And being a great modern philosopher would prove one’s intelligence…how? 
holdmytail:
Where do you get this from, exactly?
Philosophers? What so make-or-break about philosophers? Since the '60s we have multitudes of female scientists, technicians and engineers, female physicians, female attorneys, female accountants, female business executives, female military officers, etc., etc. I think their accomplishments are enough to prove that women are capable of “logic” and “abstract thought” – you can’t do any of these things if you can’t handle logic and abstract thought.
Well and good, but this kind of “materialism” – the desire to provide some lasting material benefits for the next generation, rather than simply seeking the gain and pleasure of the moment – is exactly the kind of materialism we should want in a citizen, voter, or statesperson. Isn’t it?
My favorite 20th century female philosopher was GEM Anscombe, a student of Wittgenstein, who happens to be a favorite 20th century male philosopher. Catholic, common language philosopher. Very good reading. It is a shame she died, but we all do, don’t we?
To get back to the subject for a moment: women had the right to vote in Iraq. Yes, they had the right to vote in Iraq. Like the men, the only person they were ever allowed to vote for (for president) was Saddam Hussein.
For the tangent - Hannah Arendt, probably best known for coining the phrase ‘the banality of evil’ at Eichmann’s trial, comes to mind.
For the OP - It’s difficult to become a modern industrialized society when you deprive yourself of 50% of the brainpower and workforce by keeping them exclusively in a homemaker/childbearing/childrearing role.
The Gemara. A commentary on the Mishna written in Aramaic. It is a documentation of Rabbinical arguments on Jewish law and principles. It also states which Rabbi we(Jews) follow on each issue and why. I studied Gemara for two years in private school and had many discussions with my teacher.
Suzanne Langer, author of Philosophy in a New Key, one of the most read philosophy books of the 20th century.
Simone Weil, who redefined what it means to be a thinking Christian committed to social justice in the modern age. (I’m not Christian or even much interested in Christianity, but Simone Weil rocked. If there were more Christians like her…)
Simone de Beauvoir, one of the leading Existentialist thinkers of the 20th century, next to Sartre.
Milum, this isn’t Great Debates, and I should apologize to the other Dopers for following up your abysmally ignorant hijack, but you deserve to have your nose rubbed in the fact of your appalling ignorance for the nonsense you have been spewing.
Regarding the OP: Research has shown that a country’s level of economic and social development, and quality of life, is tied to the level of women’s education and advancement in the professions. When I look through world literacy statistics and see how drastically women’s literacy lags behind men’s in far too many Muslim countries, I feel outraged and angry as a human being, and sad for the Muslims having hobbled themselves as a society for no reason at all. (The Prophet Muhammad said: Getting an education is required for everyone, male and female. The Muslims have shot themselves in the foot — no, shot themselves in the head — by not educating women.)
I can’t think of a Democracy that doesn’t have women’s sufferage, but the idea does seem to be a comparatively recent notion in some countries. There can certainly be a lot of differences between one Democracy and another.
I have read somewhere that 1/3 of the civil positions under the rule of Saddam Hussein were held by women. I was disappointed to see that only 3 members of Iraq’s Governing Council were. If the socio-religious conventions regarding the role of women change, it won’t be because the United States has forced it to. There are already coalitions of Iraqi women working to see that changes come about in their country. I assume that they have the support of some of the men also.
Parts of American culture continues to treat females as lesser people – often unconsciously. Some consider us to be a fully functioning member of Western world society. I think that we are a misfunctioning member of world society, but that only part of that misfunction is the result of a lack of balance between the sexes. And even that is just opinion.
I was watching a tape of the world leaders walking together on the beach off the coast of Georgia on the news tonight. I couldn’t help but wonder if the world would be different if these men had more experience in one-on-one nurturing. Or would things be different if they had carried another human being inside them? Would things be different if they could talk about feelings more easily? What if they hadn’t played “soldiers” as children? What if they actually reflected the physical makeup of people on the earth?
First, they would start with a Mandarin woman…
Ok, could you provide a cite for your interpretation of this theology? Chapter and verse of the original, or perhaps some academic analyses?
No, I can’t. I don’t own a Gemara. Also, this is just the way it was taught to me in an Orthodox private school so it doesn’t quite reflect the views of most Jews.
Ok, this has been the case in many Muslim countries, but lower literacy levels amongst women would be far less evident in Iraq. The government was secular in nature, and had an unexpectedly high regard for women’s rights and education (this is not to say it wasn’t a murderous and repressive regime). Muslims haven’t got much to do with it.
Paladud, I’m not very familiar with hooks’s work except to know that she certainly tackles big subjects. I’ve seen several references to her as a “philosopher,” including an Encyclopaedia Britannica article.