# Women want men to look at their eyes, not at their breasts

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-want-men-to-look-at-their-eyes-not-at-their-breasts/166361>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [April 4, 2003, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-want-men-to-look-at-their-eyes-not-at-their-breasts/166361 "2003-04-04T02:06:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-want-men-to-look-at-their-eyes-not-at-their-breasts/166361/21 "2003-04-04T18:28:14Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Spiff \*  
> **Well, gee, guess where that puts the I.D. badges?**

Well, I wear mine on my belt… 😃

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**Author:** ![vl\_mungo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc8723/32.png) [@vl\_mungo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vl_mungo)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-want-men-to-look-at-their-eyes-not-at-their-breasts/166361/22 "2003-04-04T18:36:04Z")

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I think the big difference is between “looking” or “glancing” at breasts and out and out “staring” at breasts. Come on, if we weren’t suppossed to _look_, no lady would ever wear one of those total cleavage dresses.

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**Author:** ![SCSimmons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e495f1/32.png) [@SCSimmons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCSimmons)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-want-men-to-look-at-their-eyes-not-at-their-breasts/166361/23 "2003-04-04T19:01:59Z")

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Hee-hee. T-shirt prints. Hee-hee …

There was an attractive young lady I ran into at a laundromat quite some time ago. She wore a nearly skin-tight shirt that read, “Do you think staring at my breasts will make me like you?” As we were passing by each other, I commented, “I like your T-shirt.” She looked down as if she wasn’t sure what she was wearing, then smiled and thanked me. Then I said, “I have no idea what it said, but I like it.”

I can be such a jerk sometimes. 😃

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**Author:** ![Seldon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/958977/32.png) [@Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seldon)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-want-men-to-look-at-their-eyes-not-at-their-breasts/166361/24 "2003-04-04T19:45:23Z")

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One of my supervisors in my job talks to my breasts. It drives me crazy. I’m in the reserves, so I wear the camouflage uniform cut for a man, and I have small breasts. So, there’s no cleavage, no bare upper chest, and it’s not tight at the waist. I have no idea what he’s looking at!!! But yeah, it’s really demeaning, he’ll do it in front of my subordinates, and afterwards, they’ll ask me about it. It’s this total leer, he looks at one, then the other. EEEewwww. I have tried the thing about being silent until he looks at my face, doesn’t solve the problem.

My question is: How do you bring it up to that person without embarassing him AND you? Although it’s really creepy to me, I don’t think he’s realizing what he’s doing. I’m not going to put in a sexual harrassment complaint, since I don’t think I’m being harrassed, but I’d like it to stop.

And, **SCSimmons** , when I read your post, I almost fell out of my chair laughing.

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**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-want-men-to-look-at-their-eyes-not-at-their-breasts/166361/25 "2003-04-04T20:02:58Z")

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I confess I must stare. How else would she be able to see that I have “I lust after your body and want to throw you down and make mad, passionate love to you right this very second” written across my forehead???

Sheesh!

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**Author:** ![Simple\_Dreamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Simple\_Dreamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simple_Dreamer)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-want-men-to-look-at-their-eyes-not-at-their-breasts/166361/26 "2003-04-04T20:23:29Z")

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I’m rather large busted, and makes me nuts when people (yes women too) stare at my boobs. Breaking eye contact, with a quick glance down, no big deal. Looking up and down like your eyes are yo-yos… give me a break. Also, it’s infuriating when people, upon noticing large breasts speak to you as if you have a low IQ. Just my $0.02.

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**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-want-men-to-look-at-their-eyes-not-at-their-breasts/166361/27 "2003-04-04T20:41:08Z")

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**Seldon** : He may be doing it purely to make you feel very uncomfortable. A lot of jerks are not happy with women in certain professions and do things to make the women under them feel creeped out. It may be hate, not lust.

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**Author:** ![Super\_Gnat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e274bd/32.png) [@Super\_Gnat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Super_Gnat)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-want-men-to-look-at-their-eyes-not-at-their-breasts/166361/28 "2003-04-04T21:43:13Z")

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I don’t care if guys look. I just don’t want it to be brought to my attention.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-want-men-to-look-at-their-eyes-not-at-their-breasts/166361/29 "2003-04-04T22:08:31Z")

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> \*Originally posted by NardoPolo \*  
> \*\*The other area is in sports. Say you’re playing basketball - if you look in the eyes of your opponnent they can fake you out easily. So instead you look at their center of gravity, which happens to be the middle of their chest. \*\*

Depends on the sport - in boxing, the eyes are exactly where you want to look. They often telegraph intention, and looking there also allows you to keep your focus centred and allows your peripheral vision to take in all sides. Looking at the gloves does you no good, because by the time you’ve worked out which one is punching, you’ve already been hit.

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**Author:** ![birdgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/51bf81/32.png) [@birdgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/birdgirl)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-want-men-to-look-at-their-eyes-not-at-their-breasts/166361/30 "2003-04-04T22:08:43Z")

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I am kind of flattered if guys look at my boobs.

But a lot of women who are complaining should look at what they are wearing. Alot of fashionalble clothes these days are low-cut and tight…and seem to draw attention to the breast area. Yes I wear outfits like this when I am going out and want to look nice and maybe meet someone. So I am not surprised if someone looks down.

A close friend of mine has HUGE BOOBS. I mean like grotesquely huge. And a lot of people stare, including me, because they are such an…oddity. I think they are kind of gross, the way she wears really tight shirts and how the flesh spills out of the top of the bra as if she is wearing a bra one size too big. I wonder if she knows that her gigantic ta-ta are actually kind of…weird…looking, and that is probably why people stare…

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**Author:** ![birdgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/51bf81/32.png) [@birdgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/birdgirl)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-want-men-to-look-at-their-eyes-not-at-their-breasts/166361/31 "2003-04-04T22:10:43Z")

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“as if she is wearing a bra one size too big”

OOPS I meant one size too SMALL!! Sorry!

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**Author:** ![R.P.McMurphy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7993a0/32.png) [@R.P.McMurphy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/R.P.McMurphy)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-want-men-to-look-at-their-eyes-not-at-their-breasts/166361/32 "2003-04-04T22:16:26Z")

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As a veteran girl-watcher I have observed the following:

You are walking down the street and see an attractive woman who returns your glance. If you look at her breasts she will stare at your face. If you look at her eyes she will look down at her breasts.

It’s as if she needs to check to see if her breasts are still there.

Go figger.

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-want-men-to-look-at-their-eyes-not-at-their-breasts/166361/33 "2003-04-04T23:49:04Z")

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Back in my teen-age youth, I saw a girl with a T-shirt that had two small pictures of that solid-gold mask they found in the sarcophagus of King Tutankhamun. Each of the two small gold mask picture was situated squarely over one nipple.

The caption read: “Don’t touch my Tuts.”

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**Author:** ![Blalron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/35a633/32.png) [@Blalron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blalron)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2003, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-want-men-to-look-at-their-eyes-not-at-their-breasts/166361/34 "2003-04-05T00:02:25Z")

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Sorry ladies, but if you are any decent looking at all, I can’t not look at your boobs. It’s an impossibility. Don’t even ask.

If you don’t like men looking at your endowments, wear one of those full body muslim robes.

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2003, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-want-men-to-look-at-their-eyes-not-at-their-breasts/166361/35 "2003-04-05T00:23:55Z")

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“Hey, babe, nice burkha!”

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**Author:** ![delphica](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e9a140/32.png) [@delphica](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/delphica)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2003, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-want-men-to-look-at-their-eyes-not-at-their-breasts/166361/36 "2003-04-05T00:51:34Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Ethilrist \*  
> \*\*… takes of glasses, leans in…  
> We had a thread on this a couple years ago, and there were quite a few ladies who felt that the casual flick of the eyes down to the chestal regions was on the order of a pat on the fanny as far as professional behavior went.  
> \*\*

I think I was one of the “quite a few ladies.” That said, my response at the time, and my response now remains the same – when I complain about “the flick” (as we so fondly called it), I am not talking about the casual glancing around as described by the OP. Yes, of course if a human being is standing (or sitting) in front of you, over the course of a conversation you are going to see pretty much every part of their body that is in your field of vision.

If I’m understanding the OP correctly, **Jomo Mojo** wasn’t trying to sneak a peak at his coworkers’ breasts. They were simply in front of him. Big deal. Do I think I’ve ever been peeved at a guy for intentionally flicking when in fact it was an innocent eye shift? Well, I’m only human so I’ve probably misread that sort of situation at least once in my life, but for that very reason, I do give people the benefit of the doubt on the unintentional glance vs. deliberate flick issue. To cross my personal line of insult, the glances must either be frequent, long in duration, or strangely inappropriate (i.e. looking around the side of a partition to get a better view).

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**Author:** ![R.P.McMurphy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7993a0/32.png) [@R.P.McMurphy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/R.P.McMurphy)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2003, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-want-men-to-look-at-their-eyes-not-at-their-breasts/166361/37 "2003-04-05T01:51:19Z")

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Please help me understand this.

Hundreds of thousand of breast implant surgeries are done every year. When the Wonderbra came out there were waiting lists to buy them. During warm weather there seems to be an ongoing contest to see how much cleavage will be reavealed. Tight sweaters, spandex and plunging necklines never go out of fashion. Anything that promises a woman larger breasts will make the seller rich whether it works or not. On and on and on. . .

Then we have to hear that the “flick” is a something to complain about.

How’d ya like the fireworks show?  
What, there were fireworks? I’m civilized, I never notice fireworks. If I think there are fireworks I just don’t watch.

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2003, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-want-men-to-look-at-their-eyes-not-at-their-breasts/166361/38 "2003-04-05T02:23:47Z")

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Carmen Electra: Uh, Homer, my eyes are up here.

Homer Simpson: I’ve made my choice!

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**Author:** ![ThatGuyWithPants](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/df788c/32.png) [@ThatGuyWithPants](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThatGuyWithPants)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2003, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-want-men-to-look-at-their-eyes-not-at-their-breasts/166361/39 "2003-04-05T02:47:17Z")

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What I tend to do is close my eyes for a second and do one of these “thinking nods”. you know the sort. The kind that says “Oh, I never thought of that”, or whenever you are about to speak, look up and at a distance like you are forming your words. Meh, what do I know anyway.

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**Author:** ![Nvme77](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c89c15/32.png) [@Nvme77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nvme77)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2003, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-want-men-to-look-at-their-eyes-not-at-their-breasts/166361/40 "2003-04-05T04:20:25Z")

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They better look!! I paid a lot for them!!

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