# Women wearing miniskirts in near-freezing temperatures, why not cold?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-wearing-miniskirts-in-near-freezing-temperatures-why-not-cold/809158>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [February 20, 2018, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-wearing-miniskirts-in-near-freezing-temperatures-why-not-cold/809158 "2018-02-20T00:43:31Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 2

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2018, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-wearing-miniskirts-in-near-freezing-temperatures-why-not-cold/809158/21 "2018-02-20T06:22:47Z")

</div>

> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
>
> How about a four-minute figure skating routine?

While the ice surface is below freezing, most indoor rinks have an air temperature somewhere in the 60s F. When I figure skated, my partner wore tights under her skating dress, and we’d practice three to four hours a day. She never got cold. Heck, we’d often end our practice sweating.

I’d guess that women today, wearing pantyhose and miniskirts, find the same as my skating partner did: close-fitting hose trap the legs’ heat, and keep the legs from freezing.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2018, 7:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-wearing-miniskirts-in-near-freezing-temperatures-why-not-cold/809158/22 "2018-02-20T07:03:22Z")

</div>

> [@Spoons](#):
>
> While the ice surface is below freezing, most indoor rinks have an air temperature somewhere in the 60s F. When I figure skated, my partner wore tights under her skating dress, and we’d practice three to four hours a day. She never got cold. Heck, we’d often end our practice sweating.

I’m surprised it’s as warm as 60. At my curling club, optimal temperature is 40 degrees at chest height. There are people there who play in short sleeves. All the sweeping keeps us warm; I’m sure your skating did the same.

I was being a bit facetious. Figured cold weather and mini skirts had to be a reference to figure skating.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Filbert](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/filbert/32/3433_2.png) [@Filbert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Filbert)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2018, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-wearing-miniskirts-in-near-freezing-temperatures-why-not-cold/809158/23 "2018-02-20T12:09:12Z")

</div>

A male friend who worked for nearly 10 years as a glacier guide always wore shorts while on the ice, as did almost all the other guides; thermal layers on top, and shorts.

He reckoned it was fine, once you got used to it, and it worked better than any other combo. Long trousers got wet, or if they were waterproof they got sweaty. Bare knees got a bit chilly, but so long as your core was warm, no problem, and after a while you stopped even noticing it.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2018, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-wearing-miniskirts-in-near-freezing-temperatures-why-not-cold/809158/24 "2018-02-20T14:11:43Z")

</div>

> [@Velocity](#):
>
> When temps were near freezing, and even people bundled in thick clothing were shivering, there were some women who were going about in miniskirts - I mean, really short skirts - who seemed totally unaffected by the cold. And some didn’t seem visibly affected by the cold at all, didn’t look like they were suffering. Wonder what it is about them that makes them exempt from the laws of thermodynamics? (and no, not because ‘they’re hot’ or something to that effect)…

I assure you, those women were cold.

They were simply acting as if they were not cold and suppressing any signs of suffering.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2018, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-wearing-miniskirts-in-near-freezing-temperatures-why-not-cold/809158/25 "2018-02-20T14:12:07Z")

</div>

> [@Joey\_P](#):
>
> How old? If they’re under, say, 25 I could see it being a combination of being used to it and not wanting others to know how cold they are

In the mid-40s (granted not _quite_ near-freezing), I can wear shorts and a long-sleeve shirt and be fine but then people will think I’m cold. I don’t care about that but sometimes I put on pants anyway just in case it is colder than I thought it was going to be.

That all applies to walking outdoors, however. If I’m indoors just sitting around, anything below 70F will make me put on at the very least a sweater and pajama bottoms, sometimes a hat or multiple layers.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2018, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-wearing-miniskirts-in-near-freezing-temperatures-why-not-cold/809158/26 "2018-02-20T14:34:45Z")

</div>

> [@kunilou](#):
>
> I see a lot of young men going around in shorts and a hoodie. They don’t seem to be suffering, either.

I’m an old man, but I just wear a hoodie all winter. My car is heated, as is my garage. I drive to a store, which is heated, or to work, which is heated. I’m only outdoors for a minute. Even if it’s 10 below zero, I just walk quickly.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Filbert](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/filbert/32/3433_2.png) [@Filbert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Filbert)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2018, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-wearing-miniskirts-in-near-freezing-temperatures-why-not-cold/809158/27 "2018-02-20T15:32:20Z")

</div>

> [@kayaker](#):
>
> I’m an old man, but I just wear a hoodie all winter.

And you’ve not been arrested yet?

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Gary\_T](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Gary\_T](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_T)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2018, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-wearing-miniskirts-in-near-freezing-temperatures-why-not-cold/809158/28 "2018-02-20T15:43:53Z")

</div>

Of all the body regions, the legs can best stand exposure to cold. They have a better surface area-to-volume ratio than the extremities, and don’t require the blood flow and warmth (with the resultant heat loss) that the torso and head need for the organs inside to function properly. If there’s good insulation covering the butt, abdomen, chest, neck, and head, one can be quite comfortable even if the legs are chilled.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Gary\_T](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Gary\_T](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_T)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2018, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-wearing-miniskirts-in-near-freezing-temperatures-why-not-cold/809158/29 "2018-02-20T15:49:40Z")

</div>

> [@t-bonham@scc.net](#):
>
> Other than the legs, the only vital system in the lower part of the body is the genitals; they are kept covered (and for males, reproduce better when parts are cooled).

> [@palmer7](#):
>
> Cooled, not frozen. But that does bring up an interesting question: Does the vagina/vulva perform more optimally in cold weather?

It’s really not analogous. **t-bonham** is referring to sperm production. Vaginas and vulvas don’t have processes going on that depend on a particular temperature range.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![carnut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnut/32/3531_2.png) [@carnut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnut)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-wearing-miniskirts-in-near-freezing-temperatures-why-not-cold/809158/30 "2018-02-21T04:00:18Z")

</div>

> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
>
> I’m surprised it’s as warm as 60. At my curling club, optimal temperature is 40 degrees at chest height. There are people there who play in short sleeves. All the sweeping keeps us warm; I’m sure your skating did the same.
> 
> I was being a bit facetious. Figured cold weather and mini skirts had to be a reference to figure skating.

[hijacking thread] The ice used for figure skating is warmer than the ice used for hockey and curling usually. It allows the skates to dig in but a stone or puck won’t glide far or fast on it. [/hijack]

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Ranger\_Jeff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranger_jeff/32/2065_2.png) [@Ranger\_Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranger_Jeff)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-wearing-miniskirts-in-near-freezing-temperatures-why-not-cold/809158/31 "2018-02-21T06:05:13Z")

</div>

I was in 9th Grade when the styles went from micro mini skirts to maxis. I remember seeing Jane C in a maxi and I thought 1) that’s not really flattering on her, B) I’ll bet it’s warmer than a mini, and III) going up stairs has got to be tricky. Those were the days when girls could NOT wear pants, only skirts or dresses.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Hilarity\_N.Suze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hilarity_n.suze/32/6223_2.png) [@Hilarity\_N.Suze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hilarity_N.Suze)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-wearing-miniskirts-in-near-freezing-temperatures-why-not-cold/809158/32 "2018-02-21T18:37:02Z")

</div>

As a college freshman, way way back in the day, I had to wear skirts as it was a campus requirement\*, and they had to be short as it was a fashion requirement.\*\* So I had on boots, tights (not insulated tights), then my skirt, my sweater, and my coat, which probably came to within a couple of inches of my knees but in any case was longer than the skirt–but not a lot longer.

Yes, while walking from class to class in the winter, my legs were cold. I actually think this caused me to develop subcutaneous fat around the knee area. That’s my story and I’m sticking to it.

By the next year we had occupied the Dean’s office and changed the dress code so no more of that crap. Short skirts in warm temperatures only. If you wanted.

\*We were allowed to wear pants on campus after 4pm on Friday and on weekends. Otherwise, skirts. Like, if you were leaving your room, for instance to go eat lunch in the cafeteria.  
\*\*They didn’t have to be short skirts. But that’s what people were wearing, that year.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-wearing-miniskirts-in-near-freezing-temperatures-why-not-cold/809158/33 "2018-02-21T21:15:36Z")

</div>

I once spent 6 weeks in Sydney during their winter and no matter how cold it got, plenty of men wore shorts. Although Sydney is quite mild, still one day the high was 8C (about 46F). You do not see women in miniskirts during a Montreal winter.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![actualliberalnotoneofthose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e79b87/32.png) [@actualliberalnotoneofthose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/actualliberalnotoneofthose)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2018, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-wearing-miniskirts-in-near-freezing-temperatures-why-not-cold/809158/34 "2018-02-22T11:36:26Z")

</div>

I’m a guy and I wore shorts and a t-shirt until temps went down to around 0 (F). Maybe the mini skirt chicks are just like me. We are too hot to get cold.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Sveltington](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ab097/32.png) [@Sveltington](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sveltington)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2018, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-wearing-miniskirts-in-near-freezing-temperatures-why-not-cold/809158/35 "2018-02-22T12:16:13Z")

</div>

Ah memories. . .many the morning waiting for the school bus wearing a mini. Legs so red from the cold it looked like I was wearing rose color tights. Skirt so short if I dropped something I had to ask someone to pick it up for me. Back then our skirts were not long enough to be under our butts when we sat in class. But we looked good:D

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![up\_the\_junction](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f1d935/32.png) [@up\_the\_junction](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/up_the_junction)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-wearing-miniskirts-in-near-freezing-temperatures-why-not-cold/809158/36 "2018-02-23T00:25:33Z")

</div>

This is weird but I’ve seen some evidence:

1. Young women are inclined to expose more skin when they are ovulating
2. During ovulation female body temperature increases

You can join up the dots.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-wearing-miniskirts-in-near-freezing-temperatures-why-not-cold/809158/37 "2018-02-23T01:13:45Z")

</div>

I’ve been told pantyhose are surprisingly very warm.

Miniskirts were very popular at my junior high. All the girls wore pantyhose. We weren’t really seeing that much skin. 😉

Sadly, the ankle length maxi dress was popular a couple years later. Just as I started dating.  
[![](https://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0058/1762/products/8ffdf6b3-46b0-449f-a014-72bb5f81fc8c_huge_1024x1024.jpg?v%3D1503570729&imgrefurl=https://www.peekaboovintage.com/products/vintage-1970s-floral-silky-ruffled-sleeve-maxi-dress&docid=8JK-yFOo1TvJyM&tbnid=Cc-Vk4rAnZmKBM:&vet=1&w=706&h=1024&source=sh/x/im) ](https://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0058/1762/products/8ffdf6b3-46b0-449f-a014-72bb5f81fc8c_huge_1024x1024.jpg?v%3D1503570729&imgrefurl=https://www.peekaboovintage.com/products/vintage-1970s-floral-silky-ruffled-sleeve-maxi-dress&docid=8JK-yFOo1TvJyM&tbnid=Cc-Vk4rAnZmKBM:&vet=1&w=706&h=1024&source=sh/x/im)

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Doug\_K](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b5ac83/32.png) [@Doug\_K](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doug_K)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-wearing-miniskirts-in-near-freezing-temperatures-why-not-cold/809158/38 "2018-02-23T01:36:26Z")

</div>

> [@Ranger\_Jeff](#):
>
> I was in 9th Grade when the styles went from micro mini skirts to maxis. I remember seeing Jane C in a maxi and I thought 1) that’s not really flattering on her, B) I’ll bet it’s warmer than a mini, and III) going up stairs has got to be tricky. Those were the days when girls could NOT wear pants, only skirts or dresses.

This boggles the mind, because in the days girls could only wear skirts or dresses there’s no way in hell mini skirts would have been allowed. Even when I was in high school, long after the “no pants on girls” days, shorts weren’t allowed for anyone and skirts could only be so short (something like no more than two inches above the knee, and a lot of the parents thought that was way too short).

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 9:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-wearing-miniskirts-in-near-freezing-temperatures-why-not-cold/809158/39 "2018-02-23T09:59:43Z")

</div>

> [@Velocity](#):
>
> When temps were near freezing, and even people bundled in thick clothing were shivering, there were some women who were going about in miniskirts - I mean, really short skirts - who seemed totally unaffected by the cold.

It’s common here for schoolgirls (!) They wear thick tights / stockings.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-wearing-miniskirts-in-near-freezing-temperatures-why-not-cold/809158/40 "2018-02-23T11:43:59Z")

</div>

> [@up\_the\_junction](#):
>
> This is weird but I’ve seen some evidence:
> 
> 1. Young women are inclined to expose more skin when they are ovulating
> 2. During ovulation female body temperature increases
> 
> You can join up the dots.

Not without consent you can’t!

[Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-wearing-miniskirts-in-near-freezing-temperatures-why-not-cold/809158.md?page=1)

[Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-wearing-miniskirts-in-near-freezing-temperatures-why-not-cold/809158.md?page=3)
