# Women with a chin beard - Why?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-with-a-chin-beard-why/740269>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [December 12, 2015, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-with-a-chin-beard-why/740269 "2015-12-12T20:30:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Foggy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foggy/32/1082_2.png) [@Foggy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Foggy)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-with-a-chin-beard-why/740269/21 "2015-12-13T05:12:20Z")

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> [@BigBlue](#):
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> Don’t ask questions you don’t want the answer to.

I did want an answer, and it told me a lot about you.

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-with-a-chin-beard-why/740269/22 "2015-12-13T05:22:15Z")

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> [@LiliesOfTheField](#):
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> Bleaching just gives you blond hair.

If you’re lucky: in my case, it produces onyx-black hairs on a background of red, irritated skin. Thankfully other methods work better.

Sometimes a hair that looks very thick and like it should be easy to pluck… isn’t. Waxing the chin is almost impossible, you need a damn beehive to catch more than two hairs. If the people whose opinion the woman in question cares about don’t give a fuck, why should she?  
ETA: or hell, she could be in the first stages of FtoM therapy, for all we know.

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-with-a-chin-beard-why/740269/23 "2015-12-13T06:38:24Z")

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“She was a handsome woman…”

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 8:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-with-a-chin-beard-why/740269/24 "2015-12-13T08:23:14Z")

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> [@BigBlue](#):
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> Because she is a repulsive freak of nature.

No one is obligated to alter his or her body to please you. Failure to accommodate your every whim does not make that person a freak.

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-with-a-chin-beard-why/740269/25 "2015-12-13T14:03:15Z")

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**Everyone** find a way to discuss this without insulting the other posters.

> [@MoodIndigo1](#):
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> Some women have facial hair, some men have manboobs, neither makes them repulsive. The OP has a problem of his own, one that makes him slightly distasteful, but even he is not repulsive. Yet.

Personal insults are not allowed in the forum, including saying the OP has a problem or is distasteful. The OP did not cast aspersions onto the person in question, but was simply asking what may motivate a women to leave excess facial hair.

No warnings issued

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**Author:** ![Mr.Nylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/77aa72/32.png) [@Mr.Nylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Nylock)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-with-a-chin-beard-why/740269/26 "2015-12-13T14:44:21Z")

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> [@j666](#):
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> A beard is not behavior.
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> Failing to maintain good hygiene or grooming might be, but there is not evidence of that.

Good lord. I’m not even going to try to go down _this_ derp stained rabbit hole.

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-with-a-chin-beard-why/740269/27 "2015-12-13T15:41:47Z")

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> [@Foggy](#):
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> If you find me repulsive for what ever reason, why should I be concern about what you think?

“Why?” Who knows? It’s almost invariably the case that the person IS concerned though. No one pulling the “it’s your problem, not mine” thing actually ignores the criticism as being not their problem.

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**Author:** ![2gigch1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/2gigch1/32/3313_2.png) [@2gigch1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/2gigch1)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-with-a-chin-beard-why/740269/28 "2015-12-13T16:54:03Z")

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Whereas seeing a beard on a human female is not generally what we expect to see, I would hope that using this thing we call a brain to reason through it, we wouldn’t jump to conclusions without facts.

My first reaction seeing anything that seems significantly different is to say “Wow, I know nothing about why that is. If it interests me enough I’ll research it later.”

What I _don’t_ do is assume there is some defect of character or intellect behind the sight I have seen, unless the individual is doing a good job of explaining to me using words and deeds that they are an idiot. Merely existing does not fall within that category.

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**Author:** ![Foggy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foggy/32/1082_2.png) [@Foggy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Foggy)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-with-a-chin-beard-why/740269/29 "2015-12-13T18:34:47Z")

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> [@Jophiel](#):
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> “Why?” Who knows? It’s almost invariably the case that the person IS concerned though. No one pulling the “it’s your problem, not mine” thing actually ignores the criticism as being not their problem.

You are right, but they should be able to ignore it because it’s ignorant.

I am morbidity obese, twice the size I should be. I have had complete fucking strangers tell me that I’m disgusting, disgraceful, and many more insults, and it hurts every goddamn time. None of these people knew anything about me. One woman said she was just concern with my health. Really!? So why didn’t she say something about the root cause, my mental health which has FUBAR my life.

So if **Mr. Nylock** (as an example only) found me repulsive for kissing my boyfriend in public, I’m suppose to do what? Not kiss my boyfriend because it upsets someone?

Do I need to ask for approval to:  
[ul]  
[li]Cut my hair[/li][li]Dye my hair[/li][li]Get a tattoo[/li][li]Get a piercing[/li][li]Shave or not[/li][/ul]

I’m tired of these types of threads (which are almost always aimed at women) ask why some strange doesn’t change their appearance to suit some arbitrarily standard of beauty.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Nylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/77aa72/32.png) [@Mr.Nylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Nylock)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-with-a-chin-beard-why/740269/30 "2015-12-13T19:18:42Z")

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[QUOTE=Foggy;18935286  
So if **Mr. Nylock** (as an example only) found me repulsive for kissing my boyfriend in public, I’m suppose to do what? Not kiss my boyfriend because it upsets someone?

Do I need to ask for approval to:  
[ul]

[li]Cut my hair[/li][li]Dye my hair[/li][li]Get a tattoo[/li][li]Get a piercing[/li][li]Shave or not[/li][/ul]

I’m tired of these types of threads (which are almost always aimed at women) ask why some strange doesn’t change their appearance to suit some arbitrarily standard of beauty.  
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Repulsion and disapproval are completely separate things.

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**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-with-a-chin-beard-why/740269/31 "2015-12-13T21:01:18Z")

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> [@Mr.Nylock](#):
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> Good lord. I’m not even going to try to go down _this_ derp stained rabbit hole.

You certainly don’t have to do anything you don’t want to, whether continuing a discussion or removing facial hair, but I don’t see why this is a rabbit hole.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-with-a-chin-beard-why/740269/32 "2015-12-13T21:13:00Z")

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Am I the only one who thinks that photo looks like Jesus?

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**Author:** ![Mr.Nylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/77aa72/32.png) [@Mr.Nylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Nylock)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-with-a-chin-beard-why/740269/33 "2015-12-13T21:34:45Z")

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> [@j666](#):
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> I don’t see why this is a rabbit hole.

Not only is it a rabbit hole, it’s a repulsive rabbit hole!😛

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**Author:** ![Foggy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foggy/32/1082_2.png) [@Foggy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Foggy)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-with-a-chin-beard-why/740269/34 "2015-12-13T22:02:01Z")

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> [@Mr.Nylock](#):
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> Repulsion and disapproval are completely separate things.

Not really. I’ve heard people express repulsion/disapproval at 2 men kissing, at mix race couples, at disable and/or disfigure people or basically anyone who deviates from the assumed “normal standards”.

**What do you want people who you are repulsed by to do?**  
Change to your standards?  
Be kept away from decent people such as yourself?  
What???

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**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-with-a-chin-beard-why/740269/35 "2015-12-13T23:10:58Z")

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> [@Foggy](#):
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> **What do you want people who you are repulsed by to do?**

Who says they are expected to do anything? Did I miss something?

I’d think generally it would be the repulsed who would need to move away from the repulsive. (That’s what the words mean, right?)

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**Author:** ![BigBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@BigBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigBlue)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-with-a-chin-beard-why/740269/36 "2015-12-13T23:22:36Z")

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> Am I the only one who thinks that photo looks like Jesus?

Well I said “Jesus Christ” when I saw the pic. Does that count?

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**Author:** ![Mr.Nylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/77aa72/32.png) [@Mr.Nylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Nylock)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-with-a-chin-beard-why/740269/37 "2015-12-13T23:26:57Z")

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> [@Foggy](#):
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> Not really. I’ve heard people express repulsion/disapproval at 2 men kissing, at mix race couples, at disable and/or disfigure people or basically anyone who deviates from the assumed “normal standards”.
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> **What do you want people who you are repulsed by to do?**  
> Change to your standards?  
> Be kept away from decent people such as yourself?  
> What???

I want them to do whatever the hell makes them happy as long as it doesn’t hurt anyone else.

There’s a thread someone posted about someone extracting the gunk from a blackhead. It was repulsive. I watched the whole thing in rapt attention - I highly approve of that thread.

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**Author:** ![Foggy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foggy/32/1082_2.png) [@Foggy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Foggy)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-with-a-chin-beard-why/740269/38 "2015-12-14T01:45:22Z")

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> [@Mr.Nylock](#):
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> I want them to do whatever the hell makes them happy as long as it doesn’t hurt anyone else.

Yet, you seemed to what them to consider your feelings that something they do might repulsed you. Did I misunderstand that?

> [@](#):
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> > [@Mr.Nylock](#):
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> > But is anyone obliged to not be repulsed by behavior resulting form someone not giving a fuck what people think?
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> > [@Mr.Nylock](#):
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> > But what difference does it make if I’m repulsed or not if the person I’m repulsed by has no concern for what I think?

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**Author:** ![Mr.Nylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/77aa72/32.png) [@Mr.Nylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Nylock)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-with-a-chin-beard-why/740269/39 "2015-12-14T02:20:18Z")

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> [@Foggy](#):
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> Yet, you seemed to what them to consider your feelings that something they do might repulsed you. Did I misunderstand that?

I answered this with my forest trees falling sound post upthread. I find the appearance of this woman repulsive, it’s just my natural reaction. It doesn’t mean I think that she should change or do anything on my account or that she is a bad person or that I feel superior or that I look down upon her; I just see the image and my reaction is a wee bit of stomach churning.

This is just one of many things that makes my stomach churn, or has made my stomach churn. For example, I used to have the same reaction to amputees - but now I’ve seen so many I don’t even think twice, same thing with burn victims. Same thing with heavy body odor - just to throw in an olfactory example for shits and grins.

Once when I was a teenager I got lost and I stopped at a bar to ask directions. The bartender had no thumb, it was a little unsettling but I felt bad because he seemed like a really nice guy. In that case I felt bad about my natural repulsion. The difference between that and this situation - as proposed by some posters - could be that she just does not care what I or anyone thinks. If that is the case why would I even bother feeling bad about having a natural repulsion to her appearance?

Hopefully this clears things up.

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**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-with-a-chin-beard-why/740269/40 "2015-12-14T03:12:07Z")

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> [@Mr.Nylock](#):
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> Not only is it a rabbit hole, it’s a repulsive rabbit hole!😛

So you don’t intend to discuss the issue? Why reply, then?

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