# Women's world cup 2019
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/womens-world-cup-2019/835246
**Category:** The Game Room
**Created:** [June 9, 2019, 11:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/womens-world-cup-2019/835246 "2019-06-09T11:16:05Z")
**Posts on this page:** 12
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### Author:  [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)
#### Post date: [July 7, 2019, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/womens-world-cup-2019/835246/342 "2019-07-07T22:55:20Z")
U S A! U S A!
In the end, the final seemed easier than either of the previous two matches, and not just because of the score. How many times did the Dutch really threaten?
Some steps forward this world cup, but some steps back. What happened to the rest of the world aside from USA/Europe? Australia underperformed, Brazil is a shadow of their former self. Japan and China just didn’t have it. Are they all getting worse, or is Europe getting better? Anyone know how seriously people in England/France/Holland/Sweden are taking the women’s game these days?
See you all at the Olympics in about a year!
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### Author:  [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)
#### Post date: [July 7, 2019, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/womens-world-cup-2019/835246/343 "2019-07-07T23:29:30Z")
That was the first soccer game I’ve ever watched and I truly enjoyed it.
Man, them girls are badass!
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### Author:  [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)
#### Post date: [July 8, 2019, 8:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/womens-world-cup-2019/835246/344 "2019-07-08T08:10:38Z")
> [@MaxTheVool](#):
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> Anyone know how seriously people in England/France/Holland/Sweden are taking the women’s game these days?
I don’t follow it closely, but my impression from media coverage is that women’s football in England is (rightly) getting a lot more attention and investment now compared with 4 years ago. I expect England to put up an even stronger challenge in 4 years’ time.
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### Author:  [@SanVito](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SanVito)
#### Post date: [July 8, 2019, 8:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/womens-world-cup-2019/835246/345 "2019-07-08T08:22:13Z")
> [@Dead\_Cat](#):
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> I don’t follow it closely, but my impression from media coverage is that women’s football in England is (rightly) getting a lot more attention and investment now compared with 4 years ago. I expect England to put up an even stronger challenge in 4 years’ time.
Agree with this. It’s been on a steady rise since a decent showing in the London Olympics compared to the men, but I think the real boost is the BBC - they’re clearly on a mission to promote womens sports, and have screened all the major games of this tournament on prime time BBC One - the most watched TV channel in the country. Which means even my ancient father has gotten into the tournament, and everyone is talking about it at work (more than the Cricket World Cup, which is currently being held in England, but is screened on pay-per-view channels).
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### Author:  [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)
#### Post date: [July 8, 2019, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/womens-world-cup-2019/835246/346 "2019-07-08T17:25:50Z")
Far be it for be to agree with [Forbes,](https://www.forbes.com/sites/mikeozanian/2019/03/07/world-cup-soccer-pay-disparity-between-men-and-women-is-justified/#e594e356da4a)but I don’t think the women have a case for demanding more money.
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> The Women’s World Cup brought in almost $73 million, of which the players got 13%. The 2010 men’s World Cup in South Africa made almost $4 billion, of which 9% went to the players.
Do WNBA players make as much as NBA players? Of course not. The men’s game simply generates more revenue.
This US team was definitely talented, but terrible representatives of the US. That bit with miming the sipping of tea against England was very unsportsmanlike and crass. Megan Rapinoe is about the most obnoxious athlete in any sport that I’ve ever seen. At least we get four years before we suffer through this lot again.
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### Author:  [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)
#### Post date: [July 8, 2019, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/womens-world-cup-2019/835246/347 "2019-07-08T17:40:47Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> Far be it for be to agree with [Forbes,](https://www.forbes.com/sites/mikeozanian/2019/03/07/world-cup-soccer-pay-disparity-between-men-and-women-is-justified/#e594e356da4a)but I don’t think the women have a case for demanding more money.
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> Do WNBA players make as much as NBA players? Of course not. The men’s game simply generates more revenue.
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> This US team was definitely talented, but terrible representatives of the US. That bit with miming the sipping of tea against England was very unsportsmanlike and crass. Megan Rapinoe is about the most obnoxious athlete in any sport that I’ve ever seen. At least we get four years before we suffer through this lot again.
Rapinoe is 34 and likely wont be on the 2023 squad. A good portion of our best players are thirtiesh so neither will they. The issue is only about our two National Soccer teams and their players.
According to this article, the Womans team gets higher ratings and generates more revenue than the mens team. [https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/07/sport/uswnt-equal-pay-trnd/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/07/sport/uswnt-equal-pay-trnd/index.html)
Its fair to pay them both equally with separate performance bonuses.
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### Author:  [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)
#### Post date: [July 8, 2019, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/womens-world-cup-2019/835246/348 "2019-07-08T17:55:34Z")
> [@madsircool](#):
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> Rapinoe is 34 and likely wont be on the 2023 squad. A good portion of our best players are thirtiesh so neither will they. The issue is only about our two National Soccer teams and their players.
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> According to this article, the Womans team gets higher ratings and generates more revenue than the mens team. [https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/07/sport/uswnt-equal-pay-trnd/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/07/sport/uswnt-equal-pay-trnd/index.html)
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> Its fair to pay them both equally with separate performance bonuses.
I don’t see anything in your linked article that quantifies the revenue disparity between the men’s and women’s game. If Forbes is incorrect, I’ll gladly change my opinion but nothing I’ve seen so far indicates equality in revenue.
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### Author:  [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)
#### Post date: [July 8, 2019, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/womens-world-cup-2019/835246/349 "2019-07-08T19:33:38Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> I don’t see anything in your linked article that quantifies the revenue disparity between the men’s and women’s game. If Forbes is incorrect, I’ll gladly change my opinion but nothing I’ve seen so far indicates equality in revenue.
It’s specifically the U.S. teams, where the [women brought in more revenue](https://edition.cnn.com/2019/07/08/sport/uswnt-btn-equal-pay-trnd/index.html) in 2016-2018 than the men.
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> $900,000: How much more revenue the women’s team generated than the men’s team from fiscal year 2016 to 2018, according to the Washington Post.
> $11,400,000: The total projected revenue of the women’s events (such as friendlies and tournament play) in fiscal year 2018. After expenses, the team made the US Soccer Federation money, with a surplus of just over $2 million, according to the proposed fiscal year 2018 budget.
> $10,325,000: The total projected revenue of the men’s events in fiscal year 2018. After expenses, the team had a deficit of just over $3.5 million.
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### Author:  [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)
#### Post date: [July 8, 2019, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/womens-world-cup-2019/835246/350 "2019-07-08T19:57:11Z")
Y’all are discussing two separate things. **BobLibDem** is taking about what the teams get from FIFA for its various World Cups and the revenue FIFA makes from worldwide distribution rights, while **madsircool** and **TroutMan** are talking about revenues and payments from US Soccer Federation.
Those are different payouts. The complaint is regarding USSF payments (mostly, though FIFA World Cup payouts get pulled in at times as well)… which is further complicated by the completely different payment structures (USWNT receives salaries & healthcare in addition to bonuses, while the USMNT receives only bonuses) and that the compensation is determined by CBA negotiations. The disentangling is fairly complicated.
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### Author:  [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)
#### Post date: [July 9, 2019, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/womens-world-cup-2019/835246/351 "2019-07-09T23:06:50Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> Megan Rapinoe is about the most obnoxious athlete in any sport that I’ve ever seen.
Wait, seriously? Without hyperbole? Based on what?
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### Author:  [@russian\_heel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/russian_heel)
#### Post date: [July 10, 2019, 7:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/womens-world-cup-2019/835246/352 "2019-07-10T07:44:54Z")
If Trump was smart, he’d keep to his promises invite the USWNT. It’s one thing to dismiss local teams like the Golden State Warriors and Philadelphia Eagles, but most Americans despite what the big mouths wants you to believe love the Woman’s Team, and a disinvite I think will completely backfire on the President. I mean can you imagine the President of our country actually disinviting his/her National team that just won a World Cup from visiting the White House???
Better yet, he would do even better in his Tweets extending a special olive branch asking Megan Rapinoe to attend as well.
Three stars? Let Rapinoe know he would be willing to speak with her and any other members of the team that have an issue with him for 30 minutes after the ceremony.
HOME RUN! UNITER! If Megan declines, now she is on the back foot from a PR standpoint .
Sadly, I think 2 and 3 are beneath Donald’s ego level, sad to say.
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### Author:  [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)
#### Post date: [July 10, 2019, 10:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/womens-world-cup-2019/835246/353 "2019-07-10T10:43:55Z")
> [@MaxTheVool](#):
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> Wait, seriously? Without hyperbole? Based on what?
Right? Remember this guy: [John Rocker - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Rocker)
Asked if he would ever play for the Yankees and Mets, he said:
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> I’d retire first. It’s the most hectic, nerve-wracking city. Imagine having to take the 7 Train to the ballpark looking like you’re riding through Beirut next to some kid with purple hair, next to some queer with AIDS, right next to some dude who just got out of jail for the fourth time, right next to some 20-year-old mom with four kids. It’s depressing… The biggest thing I don’t like about New York are the foreigners. You can walk an entire block in Times Square and not hear anybody speaking English. Asians and Koreans and Vietnamese and Indians and Russians and Spanish people and everything up there. How the hell did they get in this country?
What a gem! How about Lebron James’ ESPN special where he chose the city he would play in. Remember Tim Thomas, the Bruins goalie who wouldn’t meet with Obama because he wanted to make a statement about the size of government? Curt Schilling? From his wiki page:
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> On April 20, 2016, ESPN announced that they had fired Schilling after he shared a Facebook post that many viewed as being anti-transgender
All gems, just off the top of my head.
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