# Wonder Woman 1984 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** movies\ **Created:** [December 8, 2019, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonder-woman-1984/844569 "2019-12-08T22:14:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Sefton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@Sefton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sefton)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2019, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonder-woman-1984/844569/41 "2019-12-10T04:32:45Z")
I enjoyed the trailer. I would have liked to have seen Kristen Wiig in the Cheetah costume, but it’s fine all the same. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2019, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonder-woman-1984/844569/42 "2019-12-10T04:34:31Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > My theory is that it’s really Steve, resurrected somehow by that big glowy crystal thing Max “Also the Mandalorian” Lord is shown gloating over. Lord uses it to do all sorts of bad stuff, which Diana will only be able to reverse by destroying the crystal - which will also kill Steve again. Easily foreshadowed by Steve telling her to “do what you have to do …” ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2019, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonder-woman-1984/844569/43 "2019-12-10T04:58:48Z")
I’m a little concerned about the Spider-Man-ish brachiation with the lasso, but I think it looks good overall. ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2019, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonder-woman-1984/844569/44 "2019-12-10T05:25:30Z")
> [@Terminus\_Est](#): > > OK, Boomer > > or > > OK, Millennial > > as the case may be. The second one. I don’t care if the music is or sounds authentic to the 1980s. It’s completely off beat with the visuals, and sounds like someone carrying a keytar just stumbled over a bunch of metal trash cans stacked up in the alleyway where Bruce Wayne’s parents bought it in _Batman_ 1989. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2019, 8:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonder-woman-1984/844569/45 "2019-12-10T08:00:12Z")
> [@ASL\_v2.0](#): > > It’s completely off beat with the visuals What? It was specifically \*synched up with \*the visuals. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2019, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonder-woman-1984/844569/46 "2019-12-10T14:57:51Z")
The worst part is Steve wearing a fanny pack! Gah! Also, Blue Monday is awesome. ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2019, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonder-woman-1984/844569/47 "2019-12-10T16:08:34Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > What? It was specifically \*synched up with \*the visuals. But it wasn’t. I watched it again to be sure. There were a couple scenes that sort of fit, like when the turn signal from your car syncs for a few flashes with the turn signal of the car in front of you at a light, but overall it seemed off. Both tonally and with the rhythm. Now, I don’t mean to make this thread about the music alone. So I’ll say that overall the trailer gave me no reason to go see the movie. It’s okay that I can’t tell what the plot is from the trailer, but there’s no hook beyond “Look! We put Wonder Woman in a movie set in the 80s! Remember the 80s? Loud music! Flash! Loud cliched narration about wanting and getting stuff that doesn’t fit with any of the visuals being offered up! Bang! Beach run!” I just don’t care (to see the movie—obviously I’m more than happy to dump on the trailer). ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2019, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonder-woman-1984/844569/48 "2019-12-10T16:10:11Z")
The orchestra that did the cover of “Blue Monday” featured in the trailer has released the full version: [- YouTube](https://youtu.be/Qxwt5d4COyk) ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2019, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonder-woman-1984/844569/49 "2019-12-10T16:11:08Z")
Huh. My sole thought about the music was “I remember that song; sure, 80’s stuff”. Interesting to read other people having strong opinions about it, positive or negative. ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2019, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonder-woman-1984/844569/50 "2019-12-10T16:42:51Z")
**ASL v2.0** , I think you may have to come to the conclusion that your position is a distinct minority position. I thought the music was fantastic, especially in setting the scene, and matched the trailer perfectly. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2019, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonder-woman-1984/844569/51 "2019-12-10T16:52:48Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > The worst part is Steve wearing a fanny pack! Gah! Along with a Members Only jacket. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2019, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonder-woman-1984/844569/52 "2019-12-10T17:43:09Z")
Well Members Only is peak 1980s. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2019, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonder-woman-1984/844569/53 "2019-12-10T18:01:09Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > My theory is that it’s really Steve, resurrected somehow by that big glowy crystal thing Max “Also the Mandalorian” Lord is shown gloating over. Lord uses it to do all sorts of bad stuff, which Diana will only be able to reverse by destroying the crystal - which will also kill Steve again. This is the way I’m betting. The crystal is a Chaos Shard, capable of granting wishes. Maxwell Lord gets unlimited power, Diana gets Steve back, Barbara becomes Cheetah. To undo everything Diana has to destroy the crystal. Just speculation so far, but it does provide the Darkseid connection as well. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2019, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonder-woman-1984/844569/54 "2019-12-10T18:08:11Z")
> [@Terminus\_Est](#): > > The orchestra that did the cover of “Blue Monday” featured in the trailer has released the full version: [https://youtu.be/Qxwt5d4COyk](https://youtu.be/Qxwt5d4COyk) Thank you! ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2019, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonder-woman-1984/844569/55 "2019-12-10T18:12:13Z")
> [@ISiddiqui](#): > > **ASL v2.0** , I think you may have to come to the conclusion that your position is a distinct minority position. I understand that I have achieved a certain level of distinction in this thread, yes. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2019, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonder-woman-1984/844569/56 "2019-12-10T19:28:30Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Wonder Woman swinging from _fucking lightning bolts._ While the idea itself is awesome in its pure craziness, there’s some fan speculation that she’s actually snagging her invisible plane which apparently _she_ can see, or at least accurately sense. I guessing this movie is going to have to involve a lot of switch-brain-off-now moments, not least of which is trying to figure out that if Diana had been active and visible since 1918 or even 1984, why she’s such a mystery to Bruce Wayne and everyone else in _Batman v. Superman_. It’s not like she’s subtle, after all. Does she only put on the costume every few decades? Did she sit out World War II completely? ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2019, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonder-woman-1984/844569/57 "2019-12-10T19:41:21Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > While the idea itself is awesome in its pure craziness, there’s some fan speculation that she’s actually snagging her invisible plane which apparently _she_ can see, or at least accurately sense. Maybe, but it certainly looks like her lasso is attaching to the lightning bolts themselves. > [@](#): > > I guessing this movie is going to have to involve a lot of switch-brain-off-now moments, not least of which is trying to figure out that if Diana had been active and visible since 1918 or even 1984, why she’s such a mystery to Bruce Wayne and everyone else in _Batman v. Superman_. It’s not like she’s subtle, after all. Does she only put on the costume every few decades? Did she sit out World War II completely? They do have that shot of her using her tiara to disable a security camera in the mall, so maybe that’s a nod to her keeping under the radar? ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2019, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonder-woman-1984/844569/58 "2019-12-10T19:47:36Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > They do have that shot of her using her tiara to disable a security camera in the mall, so maybe that’s a nod to her keeping under the radar? Yeah, she’s _real_ sneaky… why, she just blends rights into the background, if the background is a patriotic neon-sign warehouse staffed by acrobatic supermodels. ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2019, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonder-woman-1984/844569/59 "2019-12-10T19:56:22Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Maybe, but it certainly looks like her lasso is attaching to the lightning bolts themselves. > > They do have that shot of her using her tiara to disable a security camera in the mall, so maybe that’s a nod to her keeping under the radar? Maybe Steve \*Whatshisname, played by Chris Whatshisname managed to survive that plane crash by escaping in an invisible plane, which now makes an appearance in the sequel? \*But not _that_ Steve Whatshisname, played by _that other_ Chris Whatshisname who managed to survive that other plane crash by being frozen in ice. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2019, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonder-woman-1984/844569/60 "2019-12-10T20:00:05Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Yeah, she’s _real_ sneaky… why, she just blends rights into the background, if the background is a patriotic neon-sign warehouse staffed by acrobatic supermodels. I mean… she is in an 80’s mall… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonder-woman-1984/844569.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonder-woman-1984/844569.md?page=4)