# Wonder Woman and Suicide Squad footage released

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [January 20, 2016, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonder-woman-and-suicide-squad-footage-released/743678 "2016-01-20T15:07:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2016, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonder-woman-and-suicide-squad-footage-released/743678/1 "2016-01-20T15:07:41Z")

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There was an Infomercial yesterday after Flash with stuff about DC’s upcoming movies. It had a bit about the up coming Wonder woman film which looks really promising. I think they are getting this one right. Footage [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LzkKR-22IQ).

Also a new Suicide Squad trailer. Looks like it might be a winner. I wonder if DC is happy or disappointing everyone is excited about their August release and not the one that comes out in 6 weeks. Trailer is [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmRih_VtVAs).

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**Author:** ![G0sp3l](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c68b51/32.png) [@G0sp3l](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/G0sp3l)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2016, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonder-woman-and-suicide-squad-footage-released/743678/2 "2016-01-20T16:18:28Z")

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Don’t really care about Wonder Woman or Superman.

I am begging, BEGGING, BEGGING that they don’t screw up Suicide Squad! This, Deadpool, X-Men and Zoolander are the only things I have much interest in seeing this year. So far.

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**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2016, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonder-woman-and-suicide-squad-footage-released/743678/3 "2016-01-20T16:59:29Z")

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That show was painful to watch. Geoff Johns and Kevin Smith couldn’t summon an honest emotion between the two of them. It was pretty much a “me too! and I’m better!” rant aimed at Marvel/Disney.

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2016, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonder-woman-and-suicide-squad-footage-released/743678/4 "2016-01-20T17:54:27Z")

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Well it was just a half hour\* commercial.

\*Maybe 15 minutes without commercials.

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**Author:** ![Turgu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8c91f0/32.png) [@Turgu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turgu)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2016, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonder-woman-and-suicide-squad-footage-released/743678/5 "2016-01-20T18:31:52Z")

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[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmRih\_VtVAs&t=1m20s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmRih_VtVAs&t=1m20s)

Joker don’t disappoint us, pleaaase!

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**Author:** ![typoink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@typoink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/typoink)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2016, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonder-woman-and-suicide-squad-footage-released/743678/6 "2016-01-20T22:31:53Z")

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Suicide Squad looks like it might hang together better than I thought / worried, but I’m not exactly counting down. It’s difficult to introduce that many characters so quickly AND have a plot. I have a feeling most of the characters are going to feel pretty superficial. If the sense of humor actually lands, it might work. I’m skeptical, though – Harley’s “haha I’m crazy or AM I?” bit in the trailer had a definite stink of “action movie joke” about it.

Wonder Woman I’m more optimistic about. Looks like it’s going to be pretty and they do seem to want to do the character justice (pun semi-intended).

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**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2016, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonder-woman-and-suicide-squad-footage-released/743678/7 "2016-01-20T22:37:00Z")

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Suicide Squad maybe could be good. But the Juggalo version of the Joker? That’s a horrible horrible creative choice, and it’s going to be horrible.

Maybe the rest of the movie will be good.

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**Author:** ![typoink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@typoink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/typoink)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2016, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonder-woman-and-suicide-squad-footage-released/743678/8 "2016-01-20T23:22:42Z")

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> [@Lemur866](#):
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> Suicide Squad maybe could be good. But the Juggalo version of the Joker? That’s a horrible horrible creative choice, and it’s going to be horrible.

See, that’s one element I actually like. The rest looks a little bland, but I think that was a clever way of distancing him from other Jokers and managing to look unhinged but more lighthearted than other portrayals.

Nobody wants to see somebody try to ape Ledger, and, while I’d love to see somebody do the Joker in the style of The Killing Joke, this movie ain’t the place.

Does this movie take place in the same universe as the new Justice League stuff?

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**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2016, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonder-woman-and-suicide-squad-footage-released/743678/9 "2016-01-20T23:36:41Z")

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> [@typoink](#):
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> See, that’s one element I actually like. The rest looks a little bland, but I think that was a clever way of distancing him from other Jokers and managing to look unhinged but more lighthearted than other portrayals.
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> Nobody wants to see somebody try to ape Ledger, and, while I’d love to see somebody do the Joker in the style of The Killing Joke, this movie ain’t the place.

Ditto the above.

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**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonder-woman-and-suicide-squad-footage-released/743678/10 "2016-01-21T00:16:31Z")

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Agreed that copying Heath Ledger, or Nicholson, or Mark Hamil, or Cesar Romero would be ridiculous. This looks even worse.

But you know, I hope it won’t be as bad as I fear. I used to read Suicide Squad back in the day, and liked it a lot. One of the things I liked about it was how it often showed these villainous baddasses were really mostly pathetic at the core. That all the power and eeeeevil of these guys ended them up in prison with no hope. So I hope the movie doesn’t forget that even if they have cool powers and in your face attitude, that they’re still losers.

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**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonder-woman-and-suicide-squad-footage-released/743678/11 "2016-01-21T00:52:10Z")

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> [@typoink](#):
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> Does this movie take place in the same universe as the new Justice League stuff?

It does. Affleck appears as Batman in the movie.

I think Hedger’s crazy but stylish Joker seems intriguing.

I can’t believe anyone still thinks of him as “Juggalo” Joker after seeing him running around in suits and looking waify.

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**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonder-woman-and-suicide-squad-footage-released/743678/12 "2016-01-21T05:12:42Z")

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I might go see Suicide Squad, if only because I’m curious to see what downtown Toronto looks like when it’s blowing up.

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**Author:** ![Dendarii\_Dame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@Dendarii\_Dame](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dendarii_Dame)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2016, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonder-woman-and-suicide-squad-footage-released/743678/13 "2016-01-22T12:58:21Z")

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The amount of mansplaining in the material about the upcoming Wonder Woman movie was stunning. Yes, there were quotes from the women who directed and starred in it but mostly, it’s guys talking.

This is 2016, people!

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**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2016, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonder-woman-and-suicide-squad-footage-released/743678/14 "2016-01-22T13:37:11Z")

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> [@Dendarii\_Dame](#):
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> The amount of mansplaining in the material about the upcoming Wonder Woman movie was stunning. Yes, there were quotes from the women who directed and starred in it but mostly, it’s guys talking.
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> This is 2016, people!

That sounds like a very very bad misuse of the already stupid term “mansplaining.”

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**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2016, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonder-woman-and-suicide-squad-footage-released/743678/15 "2016-01-22T14:33:17Z")

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> [@RikWriter](#):
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> That sounds like a very very bad misuse of the already stupid term “mansplaining.”

I disagree about the term being stupid, but I agree that **Dendarii** is misusing it.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2016, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonder-woman-and-suicide-squad-footage-released/743678/16 "2016-01-22T14:39:59Z")

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_Wonder Woman_ looked like nothing anyone will give a shit about; I certainly don’t.

_Suicide Squad_ looks like it will totally fucking rock. And I say that knowing absolutely nothing about the comic.

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**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2016, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonder-woman-and-suicide-squad-footage-released/743678/17 "2016-01-22T15:05:12Z")

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If you think Wonder Woman sucks I would recommend seeking out the Direct to Video Wonder Woman movie from 2009. It is really good. Personally I am excited for the movie based on the footage so far.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2016, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonder-woman-and-suicide-squad-footage-released/743678/18 "2016-01-23T15:16:38Z")

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> [@Dendarii\_Dame](#):
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> The amount of mansplaining in the material about the upcoming Wonder Woman movie was stunning. Yes, there were quotes from the women who directed and starred in it but mostly, it’s guys talking.
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> This is 2016, people!

IN what way were they being condescending towards women while telling them that misogyny was for their own good?

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**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2016, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonder-woman-and-suicide-squad-footage-released/743678/19 "2016-01-23T19:22:31Z")

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Wait. What material is being referred to here exactly?

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**Author:** ![typoink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@typoink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/typoink)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2016, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonder-woman-and-suicide-squad-footage-released/743678/20 "2016-01-25T00:52:28Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> _Wonder Woman_ looked like nothing anyone will give a shit about; I certainly don’t.

Anything to back that up? Wonder Woman is still a pretty well-known character, and this will be the first time in years (discounting that execrable Catwoman flick) a female superhero has had a starring role in a “solo” film.

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