# Wonder Woman and Suicide Squad footage released **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 20, 2016, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonder-woman-and-suicide-squad-footage-released/743678 "2016-01-20T15:07:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2016, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonder-woman-and-suicide-squad-footage-released/743678/41 "2016-01-26T13:23:15Z")
> [@Penfeather](#): > > [Maybe it’s time to give this guy a movie…](http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Tl64GIZ8wlI/Uu6qUrq0ZRI/AAAAAAAAJHk/CpBzc9bXKek/s1600/invasionquarry.jpg) He kind of looks like Bob the Goon: [http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-\_svpb816r4w/T-5gL25Ds\_I/AAAAAAAAAbE/52HGLnH7yNM/s1600/MovieBeards-Batman-Bob.jpg](http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-_svpb816r4w/T-5gL25Ds_I/AAAAAAAAAbE/52HGLnH7yNM/s1600/MovieBeards-Batman-Bob.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2016, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonder-woman-and-suicide-squad-footage-released/743678/42 "2016-01-26T13:52:42Z")
> [@RikWriter](#): > > Lynda Carter is half of British Isles ancestry, but her mother is of Mexican/Spanish ancestry. But she LOOKS classically European. English/French/German and so forth. Gal Gadot looks Mediterranean and again, I hope she keeps the accent. ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2016, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonder-woman-and-suicide-squad-footage-released/743678/43 "2016-01-26T14:04:32Z")
> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#): > > But she LOOKS classically European. To me, she looks like a Greek goddess. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2016, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonder-woman-and-suicide-squad-footage-released/743678/44 "2016-01-26T14:35:29Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Get her forty pies. I want six month of in-continuity Amanda Waller Hostess Fruit Pie advertisements until she looks like [this](http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/101270/3213383-5634659667-THEWA.jpg) again. [CCH Pounder](https://www.google.ca/search?q=cch+pounder&espv=2&biw=1920&bih=993&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjxj52m2cfKAhVkvYMKHUZoDekQ_AUIBigB&dpr=1) was the voice of Amanda Waller on the Justice League series. AFAIK, she was the physical model that Waller was based on. I was sort of hoping that she would have gotten the role. Now, I love Viola Davis and think she is a great actor but she is too good looking for Waller. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2016, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonder-woman-and-suicide-squad-footage-released/743678/45 "2016-01-26T15:22:50Z")
Mixed feelings. I totally and completely don’t care in the least little bit about Wonder Woman - never have, never will. Suicide Squad was also something I never cared about…until I saw the footage. Now I’m…intrigued. I’ll have to drop the wife off at another theater, but I might just have to give _SS_ a chance. ---
**Author:** ![typoink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@typoink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/typoink)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2016, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonder-woman-and-suicide-squad-footage-released/743678/46 "2016-01-26T20:23:22Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Cite? Women & Children First has a full-window poster of Wonder Woman out front. Good enough for me. ---
**Author:** ![G0sp3l](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c68b51/32.png) [@G0sp3l](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/G0sp3l)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2016, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonder-woman-and-suicide-squad-footage-released/743678/47 "2016-01-27T00:42:25Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Mixed feelings. I totally and completely don’t care in the least little bit about Wonder Woman - never have, never will. Suicide Squad was also something I never cared about…until I saw the footage. Now I’m…intrigued. I’ll have to drop the wife off at another theater, but I might just have to give _SS_ a chance. I think Will Smith is a pretty good actor who doesn’t deserve most of the hate he gets. That said, dammit!!! Deadshot who never say “let’s go save the world!” The editor better leave that glurge on the cutting room floor. The only squad members in the movie line-up with any good side are Rick Flagg and Enchantress (when she’s June) ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2016, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonder-woman-and-suicide-squad-footage-released/743678/48 "2016-01-27T01:49:12Z")
> [@typoink](#): > > Women & Children First has a full-window poster of Wonder Woman out front. > > Good enough for me. Gloria Steinem on Wonder Woman, in 1972: > [@](#): > > “Wonder Woman’s family of Amazons on Paradise Island, her band of college girls in America, and her efforts to save individual women are all welcome examples of women working together and caring about each other’s welfare. The idea of such cooperation may not seem particularly revolutionary to the male reader. Men are routinely depicted as working well together, but women know how rare and therefore exhilarating the idea of sisterhood really is. Wonder Woman’s mother, Queen Hippolyte, offers yet another welcome example to young girls in search of a strong identity. Queen Hippolyte founds nations, wages war to protect Paradise Island, and sends her daughter off to fight the forces of evil in the world… Wonder Woman symbolizes many of the values of the women’s culture that feminists are now trying to introduce into the mainstream: strength and self-reliance for women; sisterhood and mutual support among women; peacefulness and esteem for human life; a diminishment both of “masculine” aggression and of the belief that violence is the only way of solving conflicts.” ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2016, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonder-woman-and-suicide-squad-footage-released/743678/49 "2016-01-27T01:54:57Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Gloria Steinem on Wonder Woman, in 1972: And the irony is that she was created because her creator had a dom fetish. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2016, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonder-woman-and-suicide-squad-footage-released/743678/50 "2016-01-27T05:24:05Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > And the irony is that she was created because her creator had a dom fetish. Not really all that ironic. There’s no disconnect between being a feminist, and being kinky. And Marston was a pretty radical feminist, even by today’s standards. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2016, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonder-woman-and-suicide-squad-footage-released/743678/51 "2016-01-27T13:54:11Z")
> [@G0sp3l](#): > > The only squad members in the movie line-up with any good side are Rick Flagg and Enchantress (when she’s June) I _know_ they couldn’t get away with the Enchantress’s real outfit in a movie (the pixie boots, black stockings, green mini-skirt and wicked witch hat) but damn…I wish they could. I loved the…campness…of that costume especially given how psychotic the Enchantress is. That said, I’m having a hard time giving a damn about this movie. None of the characters seem anything like the versions I want to see and it has a “wacky” vibe which is always a bad thing. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2016, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonder-woman-and-suicide-squad-footage-released/743678/52 "2016-01-27T17:47:38Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Sounds reasonably close to you saying, “No one knows who she is.” Rubbish. Unfettered wishful rubbish on your part. You should be ashamed for trying to make that argument. People know who Benjamin Franklin is, but how many know where he was born, went to school, who his best friend was, etc.? So when I say “the details of Ben Franklin’s life are buried in our history and known to few outside history buffs” is that the same or nearly the same as saying “no one knows who Ben Franklin is”? :dubious: I don’t mind if you disagree with me, but there’s no need to make stupid arguments, **Miller**. > [@typoink](#): > > Women & Children First has a full-window poster of Wonder Woman out front. > > Good enough for me. A sample size of one? That translates to “popular” to you? :dubious: And no actual cite, just your words… thanks for participating. :rolleyes: [golfclap] Good job digging up a 43 year old quote to support your argument that WW is still popular today, **Miller**. [/golfclap] ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2016, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonder-woman-and-suicide-squad-footage-released/743678/53 "2016-01-27T17:50:04Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Rubbish. Unfettered wishful rubbish on your part. You should be ashamed for trying to make that argument. People know who Benjamin Franklin is, but how many know where he was born, went to school, who his best friend was, etc.? So when I say “the details of Ben Franklin’s life are buried in our history and known to few outside history buffs” is that the same or nearly the same as saying “no one knows who Ben Franklin is”? :dubious: > > I don’t mind if you disagree with me, but there’s no need to make stupid arguments, **Miller**. I’m sorry you’re not good at expressing yourself clearly. > [@](#): > > A sample size of one? That translates to “popular” to you? :dubious: And no actual cite, just your words… thanks for participating. :rolleyes: > > [golfclap] > > Good job digging up a 43 year old quote to support your argument that WW is still popular today, **Miller**. > > [/golfclap] Yeah, I’m done with you. Go piss in someone else’s pool. ---
**Author:** ![typoink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@typoink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/typoink)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2016, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonder-woman-and-suicide-squad-footage-released/743678/54 "2016-01-27T18:18:16Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > A sample size of one? That translates to “popular” to you? :dubious: And no actual cite, just your words… thanks for participating. :rolleyes: Sample size of two. Me AND whoever dresses the windows at the feminist bookshop next door. It beats your cite of “my opinion.” I could also cite my Wonder-Woman-obsessed girlfriend and Wonder-Woman-obsessed friend from high school. And my girlfriend’s cat, who wore a Wonder Woman costume for Halloween and is thus presumably a fan. Five to one. Your move, quarryman. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2016, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonder-woman-and-suicide-squad-footage-released/743678/55 "2016-01-27T18:35:45Z")
> [@typoink](#): > > See, that’s one element I actually like. The rest looks a little bland, but I think that was a clever way of distancing him from other Jokers and managing to look unhinged but more lighthearted than other portrayals. > > Nobody wants to see somebody try to ape Ledger, and, while I’d love to see somebody do the Joker in the style of The Killing Joke, this movie ain’t the place. Why not go back to the classic Joker, sharply dressed, etc, a la Jack? ---
**Author:** ![typoink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@typoink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/typoink)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2016, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonder-woman-and-suicide-squad-footage-released/743678/56 "2016-01-27T22:07:53Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Why not go back to the classic Joker, sharply dressed, etc, a la Jack? Honestly, I don’t think it works in this sort of context. The world of Burton’s Batman was hyperreal and cartoony. Dapper madman works. The new stuff is more gritty and blockbuster-y. I think that approach could wind up seeming dull. More like a Bond villain. I think the Leto style has a sort of “dangerous because he’s clearly unstable and self-obsessed” vibe that IS kind of Joker-y. Pretty much the whole point of the Joker is that he’s unpredictable and playing by rules he doesn’t share. I don’t think it’s a character you ever want to play safe with. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2016, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonder-woman-and-suicide-squad-footage-released/743678/57 "2016-01-27T22:23:22Z")
> [@typoink](#): > > Honestly, I don’t think it works in this sort of context. The world of Burton’s Batman was hyperreal and cartoony. Dapper madman works. > > The new stuff is more gritty and blockbuster-y. . I am so fucking tired of dark and gritty. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2016, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonder-woman-and-suicide-squad-footage-released/743678/58 "2016-01-27T23:59:14Z")
> [@typoink](#): > > Sample size of two. Me AND whoever dresses the windows at the feminist bookshop next door. > > It beats your cite of “my opinion.” > > I could also cite my Wonder-Woman-obsessed girlfriend and Wonder-Woman-obsessed friend from high school. And my girlfriend’s cat, who wore a Wonder Woman costume for Halloween and is thus presumably a fan. > > Five to one. Your move, quarryman. My cite is the poster in every Capriotti’s that features Xena standing over a corpse with the tagline “Wonder Who?” That’s 106 locations, plus me, plus Lucy Lawless plus NBC plus Sam Raimi… My point was, you made a claim, not provided a cite. Cites usually involve links to things, to prove that they exist and are as stated. Also, what do you mean by “quarryman”? It’s not my name, and I don’t work in a quarry. Is it supposed to be some sort of pejorative? ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2016, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonder-woman-and-suicide-squad-footage-released/743678/59 "2016-04-11T20:42:56Z")
A new [trailer](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZwsbcW-d-E) for Suicide Squad was just released. It keeps looking better and better. ---
**Author:** ![furryman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/furryman/32/99_2.png) [@furryman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furryman)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2016, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonder-woman-and-suicide-squad-footage-released/743678/60 "2016-04-12T15:22:31Z")
Honesty when I heard they were going to have the Joker in the Suicide Squad I was thinking “There’s no way I’m ever watching this” but if it’s not Heath Ledger Joker or Killing Joke Joker maybe it won’t be so bad. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonder-woman-and-suicide-squad-footage-released/743678.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonder-woman-and-suicide-squad-footage-released/743678.md?page=4)