# Wonderful anti-Muslim e-mail I got

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [September 6, 2011, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonderful-anti-muslim-e-mail-i-got/595378 "2011-09-06T13:29:12Z")\
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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonderful-anti-muslim-e-mail-i-got/595378/1 "2011-09-06T13:29:12Z")

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> [@](#):
>
> Something to Consider  
> The following is a copy of an article written by Spanish writer Sebastian Vilar Rodriguez and published in a Spanish newspaper on April 25, 2011. It doesn’t take much imagination to extrapolate the message to the rest of Europe - and possibly to the rest of the world.  
> REMEMBER AS YOU READ – THIS WAS PRINTED IN A SPANISH NEWSPAPER
> 
> ALL EUROPEAN LIFE DIED IN AUSCHWITZ By Sebastian Vilar Rodrigez
> 
> I walked down the street in Barcelona , and suddenly discovered a terrible truth - Europe died in Auschwitz … We killed six million Jews and replaced them with 20 million Muslims. In Auschwitz we burned a culture, thought, creativity, talent. We destroyed the chosen people, truly chosen, because they produced great and wonderful people who changed the world.
> 
> The contribution of this  
> people is felt in all areas of life: science, art, international trade, and above all, as the conscience of the world. These are the people we burned.
> 
> And under the pretense of tolerance, and because we wanted to prove to ourselves that we were cured of the disease of racism, we opened our gates to 20 million Muslims, who brought us stupidity and ignorance, religious extremism and lack of tolerance, crime and poverty, due to an unwillingness to work and support their families with pride.
> 
> They have blown up our trains and turned our beautiful Spanish cities into the third world, drowning in filth and crime.
> 
> Shut up in the apartments they receive free from the government, they plan the murder and destruction of their naive hosts.
> 
> And thus, in our misery, we have exchanged culture for fanatical hatred, creative skill for destructive skill, intelligence for backwardness and superstition.
> 
> We have exchanged the pursuit of peace of the Jews of Europe and their talent for a better future for their children, their determined clinging to life because life is holy, for those who pursue death, for people consumed by the desire for death for themselves and others, for our children and theirs.
> 
> What a terrible mistake was made by miserable Europe ..
> 
> * * *
> 
> The Global Islamic population is approximately 1,200,000,000; that is ONE BILLION TWO HUNDRED MILLION or 20% of the world’s population. They have received the following Nobel Prizes:
> 
> Literature:  
> 1988 - Najib Mahfooz
> 
> Peace:  
> 1978 - Mohamed Anwar El-Sadat  
> 1990 - Elias James Corey  
> 1994 - Yasser Arafat:  
> 1999 - Ahmed Zewai
> 
> Economics:  
> (zero)
> 
> Physics:  
> (zero)
> 
> Medicine:  
> 1960 - Peter Brian Medawar  
> 1998 - Ferid Mourad
> 
> TOTAL: 7 SEVEN
> 
> The Global Jewish population is  
> approximately 14,000,000; that is FOURTEEN MILLION or about 0.02% of the world’s population. They have received the following Nobel Prizes:
> 
> Literature:  
> 1910 - Paul Heyse  
> 1927 - Henri Bergson  
> 1958 - Boris Pasternak  
> 1966 - Shmuel Yosef Agnon  
> 1966 - Nelly Sachs  
> 1976 - Saul Bellow  
> 1978 - Isaac Bashevis Singer  
> 1981 - Elias Canetti  
> 1987 - Joseph Brodsky  
> 1991 - Nadine Gordimer World
> 
> Peace:  
> 1911 - Alfred Fried  
> 1911 - Tobias Michael Carel Asser  
> 1968 - Rene Cassin  
> 1973 - Henry Kissinger  
> 1978 - Menachem Begin  
> 1986 - Elie Wiesel  
> 1994 - Shimon Peres  
> 1994 - Yitzhak Rabin
> 
> Physics:  
> 1905 - Adolph Von Baeyer  
> 1906 - Henri Moissan  
> 1907 - Albert Abraham Michelson  
> 1908 - Gabriel Lippmann  
> 1910 - Otto Wallach  
> 1915 - Richard Willstaetter  
> 1918 - Fritz Haber  
> 1921 - Albert Einstein  
> 1922 - Niels Bohr  
> 1925 - James Franck  
> 1925 - Gustav Hertz  
> 1943 - Gustav Stern  
> 1943 - George Charles de Hevesy  
> 1944 - Isidor Issac Rabi  
> 1952 - Felix Bloch  
> 1954 - Max Born  
> 1958 - Igor Tamm  
> 1959 - Emilio Segre  
> 1960 - Donald A. Glaser  
> 1961 - Robert Hofstadter  
> 1961 - Melvin Calvin  
> 1962 - Lev Davidovich Landau  
> 1962 - Max Ferdinand Perutz  
> 1965 - Richard Phillips Feynman  
> 1965 - Julian Schwinger  
> 1969 - Murray Gell-Mann  
> 1971 - Dennis Gabor  
> 1972 - William Howard Stein  
> 1973 - Brian David Josephson  
> 1975 - Benjamin Mottleson  
> 1976 - Burton Richter  
> 1977 - Ilya Prigogine  
> 1978 - Arno Allan Penzias  
> 1978 - Peter L Kapitza  
> 1979 - Stephen Weinberg  
> 1979 - Sheldon Glashow  
> 1979 - Herbert Charles Brown  
> 1980 - Paul Berg  
> 1980 - Walter Gilbert  
> 1981 - Roald Hoffmann  
> 1982 - Aaron Klug  
> 1985 - Albert A. Hauptman  
> 1985 - Jerome Karle  
> 1986 - Dudley R. Herschbach  
> 1988 - Robert Huber  
> 1988 - Leon Lederman  
> 1988 - Melvin Schwartz  
> 1988 - Jack Steinberger  
> 1989 - Sidney Altman  
> 1990 - Jerome Friedman  
> 1992 - Rudolph Marcus  
> 1995 - Martin Perl  
> 2000 - Alan J. Heeger
> 
> Economics:  
> 1970 - Paul Anthony Samuelson  
> 1971 - Simon Kuznets  
> 1972 - Kenneth Joseph Arrow  
> 1975 - Leonid Kantorovich  
> 1976 - Milton Friedman  
> 1978 - Herbert A. Simon  
> 1980 - Lawrence Robert Klein  
> 1985 - Franco Modigliani  
> 1987 - Robert M. Solow  
> 1990 - Harry Markowitz  
> 1990 -Merton Miller  
> 1992 - Gary Becker  
> 1993 - Robert Fogel
> 
> Medicine:  
> 1908 - Elie Metchnikoff  
> 1908 - Paul Erlich  
> 1914 - Robert Barany  
> 1922 - Otto Meyerhof  
> 1930 - Karl Landsteiner  
> 1931 - Otto Warburg  
> 1936 - Otto Loewi  
> 1944 - Joseph Erlanger  
> 1944 - Herbert Spencer Gasser  
> 1945 - Ernst Boris Chain  
> 1946 - Hermann Joseph Muller  
> 1950 - Tadeus Reichstein  
> 1952 - Selman Abraham Waksman  
> 1953 - Hans Krebs  
> 1953 - Fritz Albert Lipmann  
> 1958 - Joshua Lederberg  
> 1959 - Arthur Kornberg  
> 1964 - Konrad Bloch  
> 1965 - Francois Jacob  
> 1965 - Andre Lwoff  
> 1967 - George Wald  
> 1968 - Marshall W. Nirenberg  
> 1969 - Salvador Luria  
> 1970 - Julius Axelrod  
> 1970 - Sir Bernard Katz  
> 1972 - Gerald Maurice Edelman  
> 1975 - Howard Martin Temin  
> 1976 - Baruch S. Blumberg  
> 1977 - Roselyn Sussman Yalow  
> 1978 - Daniel Nathans  
> 1980 - Baruj Benacerraf  
> 1984 - Cesar Milstein  
> 1985 - Michael Stuart Brown  
> 1985 - Joseph L. Goldstein  
> 1986 - Stanley Cohen [& Rita Levi-Montalcini]  
> 1988 - Gertrude Elion  
> 1989 - Harold Varmus  
> 1991 - Erwin Neher  
> 1991 - Bert Sakmann  
> 1993 - Richard J. Roberts  
> 1993 - Phillip Sharp  
> 1994 - Alfred Gilman  
> 1995 - Edward B. Lewis  
> 1996- Lu Rose Iacovino  
> TOTAL: 129!  
> The Jews are NOT promoting brain washing children in military training camps, teaching them how to blow themselves up and cause maximum deaths of Jews and other non Muslims. The Jews don’t hijack planes, nor kill athletes at the Olympics, or blow themselves up in German restaurants. There is NOT one single Jew who has destroyed a church. There is NOT a single Jew who protests by killing people.
> 
> The Jews don’t traffic slaves, nor have leaders calling for Jihad and death to all the Infidels.
> 
> Perhaps the world’s Muslims should consider investing more in standard education and less in blaming the Jews for all their problems.
> 
> Muslims must ask ‘what can they do for humankind’ before they demand that humankind respects them.
> 
> Regardless of your feelings about the crisis between Israel and the Palestinians and Arab neighbors, even if you believe there is more culpability on Israel 's part, the following two sentences really say it all:
> 
> 'If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there would be no more violence. If the Jews put down their weapons today, there would be no more Israel .." Benjamin Netanyahu
> 
> General Eisenhower Warned Us It is a matter of history that when the Supreme Commander of the Allied Forces, General Dwight Eisenhower, found the victims of the death camps he ordered all possible photographs to be taken, and for the German people from surrounding villages to be ushered through the camps and even made to bury the dead.
> 
> He did this because he said in words to this effect:
> 
> ‘Get it all on record now - get the films - get the witnesses - because somewhere down the road of history some bastard will get up and say that this never happened’
> 
> Recently, the UK debated whether to remove The Holocaust from its school curriculum because it ‘offends’ the Muslim population which claims it never occurred. It is not removed as yet. However, this is a frightening portent of the fear that is gripping the world and how easily each country is giving into it.
> 
> It is now more than 60 years after the Second World War in Europe ended. This e-mail is being sent as a memorial chain, in memory of the, 6 million Jews, 20 million Russians, 10 million Christians, and 1,900 Catholic priests who were ‘murdered, raped, burned, starved, beaten, experimented on and humiliated’ while the German people looked the other way.
> 
> Now, more than ever, with Iran , among others, claiming the Holocaust to be ‘a myth,’ it is imperative to make sure the world never forgets.
> 
> This e-mail is intended to reach 400 million people. Be a link in the memorial chain and help distribute this around the world.
> 
> How many years will it be before the attack on the World Trade Center ‘NEVER HAPPENED’ because it offends some Muslim in the United States ?
> 
> Please do not just delete this message; it will take only a minute to pass this along. If you have concerns about tracking of forwarded emails, copy and paste this message before you send it, like I did.

To my work e-mail. The sender is a Jewish woman, with whom I have sometimes discussed Israel - I have a friend in Israel, and sometimes I share news with her, and generally have a positive view of Judaism and Israel in general, so perhaps she thinks I wouldn’t mind such things.

I am, of course, not even going to respond - no point. I just wanted to share it here. It is obviously extremely sensationalist - the UK ‘debating’ whether to remove the Holocaust from curriculum could be something serious, or something as minor as one person trying to remove it and being shot down, for example.

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**Author:** ![SecondJudith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@SecondJudith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SecondJudith)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonderful-anti-muslim-e-mail-i-got/595378/2 "2011-09-06T13:34:21Z")

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Anything using the phrase “The Jews” gets an automatic side-eye from me.

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**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonderful-anti-muslim-e-mail-i-got/595378/3 "2011-09-06T13:46:29Z")

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Oh good, the Europeans have found another Semetic people they’re convinced are undermining them from within. This should end well.

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**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonderful-anti-muslim-e-mail-i-got/595378/4 "2011-09-06T15:06:22Z")

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Not a single relative of mine has won a Nobel Prize. Heck, my parents didn’t even go to college. None of my grandparents went to high school. Instead of accomplishing anything major in physics, chemistry, medicine, peace, literature, economics, or anything else in which they might become famous, my ancestors wasted their time as farmers in the U.S. (and before that in Germany, England, and Switzerland). Before that they were undoubtedly serfs in various places in Europe. There is obviously no hope for any of their descendants then. They are doomed to lives of near slavery in jobs requiring little education.

Incidentally, why has the writer of that E-mail failed to mention the chemistry Nobel Prizes? Are the Jews brilliant in everything except chemistry? Does the writer not know that there is a Nobel Prize in chemistry?:

> **[Jewish Nobel Prize laureates](https://www.science.co.il/nobel-prizes/)**
>
> List of Jewish Nobel Prize laureates in chemistry, physics, economics, physiology and medicine, their country of origin, and links to their autobiographies.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonderful-anti-muslim-e-mail-i-got/595378/5 "2011-09-06T15:36:17Z")

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Abdus Salam won the physics Nobel along with Weinberg and Glashow in 1979.

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**Author:** ![MegaBee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f0a364/32.png) [@MegaBee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MegaBee)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonderful-anti-muslim-e-mail-i-got/595378/6 "2011-09-06T16:05:37Z")

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I’d tell that person to stop sending me anything that wasn’t work related, and I’d forward that particular e-mail to HR.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonderful-anti-muslim-e-mail-i-got/595378/7 "2011-09-06T16:23:28Z")

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> [@Wendell\_Wagner](#):
>
> Incidentally, why has the writer of that E-mail failed to mention the chemistry Nobel Prizes? Are the Jews brilliant in everything except chemistry? Does the writer not know that there is a Nobel Prize in chemistry?:
> 
> [Jewish Nobel Prize laureates - Chemistry](http://www.science.co.il/Nobel-Chemistry.asp)

The list of Jewish Physics Nobelists appears to have the Chemistry Nobelists mixed in.

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**Author:** ![Alka\_Seltzer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c89c15/32.png) [@Alka\_Seltzer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alka_Seltzer)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonderful-anti-muslim-e-mail-i-got/595378/8 "2011-09-06T16:33:14Z")

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Sadly, racism is alive and well. As I’ve pointed out before, the majority of the world’s 1.2 billion muslims don’t go around exploding. Save the hate for the extremists.

I’m dubious the original email was actually printed in a Spanish newspaper, can anyone find a source?

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonderful-anti-muslim-e-mail-i-got/595378/9 "2011-09-06T16:42:57Z")

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> [@MegaBee](#):
>
> I’d tell that person to stop sending me anything that wasn’t work related, and I’d forward that particular e-mail to HR.

Naw. I mean, I’ve done it before (asked the person to stop sending me things like that, not sent it to HR), but she is really a decent person, just a little misguided. I don’t like non-work e-mails in my inbox, but it is the work of a moment to hit delete and it’s better than getting into a pissing match at work.

I’d rather just post it here for entertainment’s sake. 🙂  
This is the weirdest comment: ALL EUROPEAN LIFE DIED IN AUSCHWITZ. I feel really bad for all of the non-Muslims living in Europe right now, knowing that they are worth nothing compared to the six million dead Jews. I don’t say we shouldn’t remember them, of course not, but it seems wrong on so many levels to forget everyone who did survive, including Jews, and people who helped Jews, and people who weren’t even born!

And I will also add the one thing I always bitch about in these sorts of things - yes, six million Jews died. Millions of other peoples died, too, and I fear we tend more and more to forget those innocents. From Wiki: Romani (more commonly known in English by the exonym “Gypsies”), Sinti, Soviet prisoners of war, Polish and Soviet civilians, homosexuals, people with disabilities, Jehovah’s Witnesses and other political and religious opponents, which occurred regardless of whether they were of German or non-German ethnic origin.

The total number of Holocaust victims is between 11 million and 17 million people!

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonderful-anti-muslim-e-mail-i-got/595378/10 "2011-09-06T17:12:11Z")

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> [@Alka\_Seltzer](#):
>
> Sadly, racism is alive and well. As I’ve pointed out before, the majority of the world’s 1.2 billion muslims don’t go around exploding. Save the hate for the extremists.
> 
> I’m dubious the original email was actually printed in a Spanish newspaper, can anyone find a source?

A google search suggests it’s a fake. Sadly no Snopes article as yet.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonderful-anti-muslim-e-mail-i-got/595378/11 "2011-09-06T17:22:14Z")

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The bit about the UK debating the removal of teaching about the Holocaust is [an exaggeration, to say the least.](http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/holocaust.asp) My rule for glurge-spotting is that any claim that someone “didn’t want to offend” someone else is dead wrong, 100% of the time.

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**Author:** ![Capitaine\_Zombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e95f7d/32.png) [@Capitaine\_Zombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capitaine_Zombie)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonderful-anti-muslim-e-mail-i-got/595378/12 "2011-09-06T17:35:26Z")

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> [@Anaamika](#):
>
> This is the weirdest comment: ALL EUROPEAN LIFE DIED IN AUSCHWITZ. I feel really bad for all of the non-Muslims living in Europe right now, knowing that they are worth nothing compared to the six million dead Jews. I don’t say we shouldn’t remember them, of course not, but it seems wrong on so many levels to forget everyone who did survive, including Jews, and people who helped Jews, and people who weren’t even born!
> 
> And I will also add the one thing I always bitch about in these sorts of things - yes, six million Jews died. Millions of other peoples died, too, and I fear we tend more and more to forget those innocents. From Wiki: Romani (more commonly known in English by the exonym “Gypsies”), Sinti, Soviet prisoners of war, Polish and Soviet civilians, homosexuals, people with disabilities, Jehovah’s Witnesses and other political and religious opponents, which occurred regardless of whether they were of German or non-German ethnic origin.

Classic bull coming from [Eurabists](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurabia). People rolling themselves daily in the ashes of the victims of the Holocaust but that, in the same breath, ask that that kind of treatment be applied to Europe’s Muslims.

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**Author:** ![Hilarity\_N.Suze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hilarity_n.suze/32/6223_2.png) [@Hilarity\_N.Suze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hilarity_N.Suze)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonderful-anti-muslim-e-mail-i-got/595378/13 "2011-09-06T17:52:56Z")

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I got that from a Jewish friend, too. It’s really hard to respond to these kinds of things. Of course the list is probably accurate, but there are Jewish extremists, too.

OTOH this same friend thought that Osama bin Laden was “kinda hot” and “really intriguing.” People are weird.

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**Author:** ![Baracus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/2bfe46/32.png) [@Baracus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baracus)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonderful-anti-muslim-e-mail-i-got/595378/14 "2011-09-06T18:09:02Z")

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I think it sends a conflicting message to say

> [@](#):
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> In Auschwitz we burned a culture, thought, creativity, talent. We destroyed the chosen people, truly chosen, because they produced great and wonderful people who changed the world.

when three-quarters of the Nobel prizes in the list that follows were awarded _after_ 1944. I am not trying to diminish what happened in any way, but it sounds like “the Jews” are still doing ok.

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**Author:** ![Toucanna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3bc359/32.png) [@Toucanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toucanna)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonderful-anti-muslim-e-mail-i-got/595378/15 "2011-09-06T19:08:45Z")

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For two groups of people who are so closely related to be so ignorant about what the mainstream members of the groups believe, constantly astounds me.

My husband, a secular and westernized Muslim, is frequently told bizarrely inaccurate generalizations about Jews. He always runs it by me (humanistic Jew) for my take. I return the favor when I’m told similar stuff about Muslims. We usually just shake our heads in sad wonderment about it.

Generally, there’s no use in responding to all the bizarre allegations in these cases. I just try to pick some of the more outrageous ones that can be refuted easily, and then suggest to person, “If the author got this obvious stuff wrong, what else did he get wrong?”

Oy vey…

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**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonderful-anti-muslim-e-mail-i-got/595378/16 "2011-09-06T19:20:18Z")

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> [@Toucanna](#):
>
> For two groups of people who are so closely related to be so ignorant about what the mainstream members of the groups believe, constantly astounds me.
> 
> My husband, a secular and westernized Muslim, is frequently told bizarrely inaccurate generalizations about Jews. He always runs it by me (humanistic Jew) for my take. I return the favor when I’m told similar stuff about Muslims. We usually just shake our heads in sad wonderment about it.
> 
> Generally, there’s no use in responding to all the bizarre allegations in these cases. I just try to pick some of the more outrageous ones that can be refuted easily, and then suggest to person, “If the author got this obvious stuff wrong, what else did he get wrong?”
> 
> Oy vey…

_Ashkenazic_ Jews aren’t particularly closely related to Muslims - culturally, they are very different from the bulk of Muslims, and closer to other Europeans.

This also is the reason why the “Nobel Prize” comparison is unfair to Muslims - most Muslims population-wise _these days_ are not “Westernized”, and so not as likely to be on the forefront of education and science - but this says nothing about Islam as a religion, or Muslims as a people: the exact reverse was true during the 9th-11th centuries, when the role-call of prominent scientists was dominated by Muslims.

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**Author:** ![Anne\_Neville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Anne\_Neville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anne_Neville)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonderful-anti-muslim-e-mail-i-got/595378/17 "2011-09-06T20:47:04Z")

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> [@some whackaloon](#):
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> There is NOT a single Jew who protests by killing people.

Tell that to [Yitzhak Rabin](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Yitzhak_Rabin).

> [@](#):
>
> They have blown up our trains and turned our beautiful Spanish cities into the third world, drowning in filth and crime.
> 
> Shut up in the apartments they receive free from the government, they plan the murder and destruction of their naive hosts.

This sounds an _awful_ lot like some of the stuff the antisemites falsely accused Jews of doing, before the Holocaust.

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**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonderful-anti-muslim-e-mail-i-got/595378/18 "2011-09-06T20:53:32Z")

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I can kind of sympathize for the email sender. After all, the Muslims invented Algebra which, to this day, is still the worst thing they’ve ever inflicted on the world

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**Author:** ![Toucanna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3bc359/32.png) [@Toucanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toucanna)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonderful-anti-muslim-e-mail-i-got/595378/19 "2011-09-06T21:22:09Z")

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> [@Malthus](#):
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> _Ashkenazic_ Jews aren’t particularly closely related to Muslims - culturally, they are very different from the bulk of Muslims, and closer to other Europeans.

True. The majority of Muslims are not Arabs, but Indonesians, and the majority of Jews are not Sephradim (as I keep trying to explain to people when they ask me about Yiddish, gefilte fish and dreidls: How should I know? I’m Sephardic. 😃 )

Because the OP mentioned she and the sender of the e-mail had discussed Israel, I was thinking in terms of genes and cultural elements shared by (some of the) Jewish and Arab-Muslim Semitic groups living in what today is referred to commonly as “the Middle East”.

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**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 9:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonderful-anti-muslim-e-mail-i-got/595378/20 "2011-09-07T09:07:35Z")

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Toucanna, a nitpick: Yes, the majority of Moslems are not Arabic. Only 20% of them are. No, the majority are not Indonesian. The majority are from Asia, mostly Indonesia, Pakistan, India, and Bangladesh. That’s 62% of all Moslems:

> **[Islam](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam)**
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> Islam (/ˈɪslɑːm/; Arabic: ۘالِإسلَام, al-ʾIslām \[ʔɪsˈlæːm\] (listen), transl. "Submission to the will of God") is an Abrahamic monotheistic religion centered on the Quran and the teachings of Muhammad. Adherents of Islam, called Muslims, number approximately 1.9 billion globally and are the world's second-largest religious population after Christians.
> Muslims believe that Islam is the complete and universal version of a primordial faith that was revealed many times through earlier prophets su...

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