# Wondering if anyone else remembers a very old computer game

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** video-games-e-games\
**Created:** [April 27, 2024, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wondering-if-anyone-else-remembers-a-very-old-computer-game/1000842 "2024-04-27T15:20:38Z")\
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**Author:** ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2024, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wondering-if-anyone-else-remembers-a-very-old-computer-game/1000842/1 "2024-04-27T15:20:38Z")

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I’ve been racking my brain to remember the name of a very old text-only game, probably played it around 1984-1987 sometime on a Apple II…

So I checked out this list: [List of Apple II games - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Apple_II_games)

But nothing looked familiar

The game was kind of a fantasy adventure where your character sets out to defeat some sort of magical wizard/king/villain, and the basic mechanic that I remember is that you talked to various creatures, the bear people, or the unicorns, or the dwarves, and assemble an army of allies that could take on the villain’s army.

I mostly remember the game would give you a hint as to how the battle was going to go by listing how many of your allies showed up like:

'Your  
5,000 dwarves  
350 unicorns  
23 griffons

attack the enemy with

8,200 wights  
2,000 minotaurs

etc.’

Anyone have memories or thoughts about what game it might have been or what similar games might have existed?

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2024, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wondering-if-anyone-else-remembers-a-very-old-computer-game/1000842/2 "2024-04-27T15:30:50Z")

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King’s Bounty?

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**Author:** ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2024, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wondering-if-anyone-else-remembers-a-very-old-computer-game/1000842/3 "2024-04-27T15:48:18Z")

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[King’s Bounty](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King%27s_Bounty) seems way more complicated than this game was; it was also definitely not as late as 1990, there were no graphics at all, just text - it was a contemporary of Aztec and Choplifter (I think we got a set of games from someone and it likely had those two in it also)

Thanks for the suggestion though!

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2024, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wondering-if-anyone-else-remembers-a-very-old-computer-game/1000842/4 "2024-04-27T22:40:02Z")

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[Fortress of the Witch King](http://crpgaddict.blogspot.com/2021/07/game-426-fortress-of-witch-king-1983.html?m=1) has text along those lines.

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**Author:** ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2024, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wondering-if-anyone-else-remembers-a-very-old-computer-game/1000842/5 "2024-04-28T00:58:56Z")

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Aha! It wasn’t Fortress of the Witch King, but I followed your link and it was listed there - it was [The Sword of Zedek](https://crpgaddict.blogspot.com/2021/02/game-401-sword-of-zedek-1981.html)

Thanks! You totally got me to the right place - I would never have remembered that name, and it doesn’t even appear in the list of Apple II games on wikipedia!

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**Author:** ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2024, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wondering-if-anyone-else-remembers-a-very-old-computer-game/1000842/6 "2024-04-28T02:15:54Z")

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It seems I actually played it in a release called ‘Pythagoras and the Dragon’ which explains why I didn’t recognize it as ‘The Sword of Zedek’

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**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2024, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wondering-if-anyone-else-remembers-a-very-old-computer-game/1000842/7 "2024-04-28T02:18:28Z")

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I say this with love…

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**Author:** ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2024, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wondering-if-anyone-else-remembers-a-very-old-computer-game/1000842/8 "2024-04-29T03:39:20Z")

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Is there a way to get out of SNFaulkner’s love without using the wizard key? 😉
