# Wonderwoman & Batman,  turn in your badges

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonderwoman-batman-turn-in-your-badges/86430>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 9, 2001, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonderwoman-batman-turn-in-your-badges/86430 "2001-10-09T22:47:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2001, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonderwoman-batman-turn-in-your-badges/86430/21 "2001-10-10T15:16:58Z")

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**Fiver** , I knew you knew that I knew that you knew, but this is the SDMB and accuracy must be our watchword.

[sub]Besides, it gave me a chance to show off all my vast knowledge of comic-book trivia. Now I’ll get babes in bucketloads! Just you watch![/sub]

Fenris

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**Author:** ![Cliffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@Cliffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cliffy)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2001, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonderwoman-batman-turn-in-your-badges/86430/22 "2001-10-10T15:22:28Z")

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> \*Originally posted by caveman \*  
> \*\*But isn’t there a _new_ Batgirl? A mute, super-ninja-y one? \*\*

Yup.

–Cliffy

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**Author:** ![Fiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e274bd/32.png) [@Fiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiver)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2001, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonderwoman-batman-turn-in-your-badges/86430/23 "2001-10-10T15:35:13Z")

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**Fenris** , I’m pretty sure you wouldn’t want the sort of babe you’d get in a bucket. Not even if she was a Durlan[sup]1[/sup].

[sup]1[/sup][sub]Think you can match your comics trivia against mine? Step off, man, just step off![/sub]

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**Author:** ![broccoli](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@broccoli](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/broccoli)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2001, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonderwoman-batman-turn-in-your-badges/86430/24 "2001-10-10T15:38:57Z")

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Bah! Gimme Harley over Batgrrl\* any day…

\*intentionally spelt the girl power, internet way to show how trendy and cool I am. Really. Why are you running away?

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2001, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonderwoman-batman-turn-in-your-badges/86430/25 "2001-10-10T15:48:26Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Fiver \*  
> \*\*Not even if she was a Durlan. Think you can match your comics trivia against mine? Step off, man, just step off![/sub] \*\*

Durlans first appeared in Action Comics 26\_something. Seven?, during Supergirl’s initiation.

We’ll start with two easy questions.

What did T.H.U.N.D.E.R. stand for?

Yes, he’s got a suit made of White Dwarf Star material that lets him shrink and become the Atom, but Ray Palmer also has an innate super-power that no-one else shares. What is it?

Fenris

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**Author:** ![jonfromdenver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/82dd89/32.png) [@jonfromdenver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jonfromdenver)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2001, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonderwoman-batman-turn-in-your-badges/86430/26 "2001-10-10T15:49:49Z")

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from the movie hollow man:

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> ```
> MATT
> Ever tell you the one about Superman and Wonder Woman?
> 
> SEBASTIAN
> I don’t think so.
> 
> MATT
> So Superman’s flying around the city, and he’s horny as hell. Lo and behold he looks down and sees Wonder Woman, completely nude, sunning herself up on the roof of the Justice League. I mean she is lying there naked and spread eagle. So Superman starts thinking, “man... this is too easy. I could go down there, do a little fast pumping and be gone before she even sees me.” After all he is faster than a speeding bullet, right? Anyway, he swoops down, takes care of business so quick, you can’t even see him. Well ... I tell ya. Wonder Woman looks up, surprised as hell and says “What the hell was that?” And the Invisible Man replies “I dunno know, but it sure hurt like hell!”
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gotta love that.

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**Author:** ![Sister\_Vigilante](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@Sister\_Vigilante](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sister_Vigilante)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2001, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonderwoman-batman-turn-in-your-badges/86430/27 "2001-10-10T16:08:39Z")

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Glad I’m not in the DC universe… you guys are brutal!

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**Author:** ![G.B.H.Hornswoggler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c67d28/32.png) [@G.B.H.Hornswoggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/G.B.H.Hornswoggler)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2001, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonderwoman-batman-turn-in-your-badges/86430/28 "2001-10-10T16:14:48Z")

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> \*Originally posted by BuddhaDog \*  
> \*\*No **Superpowers** at all, but you can kung-foo your way out of almost any situation. But still **no** Superpowers. That is a prerequisite to be a **Super** hero.  
> \*\*

Where did you come up with such a bizarre rule?  
[ul]  
[li]**Doc Savage[/li][li]The Spirit[/li][li]The (original) Sandman[/li][li]The (original) Atom[/li][li]Spy Smasher[/li][li]Nick Fury[/li][li]Captain America[/li][li]Slam Bradley**[/li][li]etc.[/li][/ul]  
The “superhero” is a later name for the genre that was originally called “costumed” hero. Most of the early comics characters didn’t have notable superpowers – they tended to be strong guys, at best.

Other people have pointed out some of your other idiocies, so I won’t repeat what they said. But did you really get all your knowledge of superheroes from the '70s _Superfriends_ TV show?

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**Author:** ![FlyingDragonFan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c89c15/32.png) [@FlyingDragonFan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlyingDragonFan)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2001, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonderwoman-batman-turn-in-your-badges/86430/29 "2001-10-10T16:22:33Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Cliffy \*  
> Um, Aquaman’s kinda dead.

Not quite. He did get his left hand bitten off by something or other, and he now sports a beard and long hair, but he’s far from deceased.

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**Author:** ![BuddhaDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ea5d25/32.png) [@BuddhaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BuddhaDog)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2001, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonderwoman-batman-turn-in-your-badges/86430/30 "2001-10-10T16:37:51Z")

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That’s right.

I think it’s time to clean house. Unless you can shoot lasers out of your ass or summon powers that no natural human can possess its time to go.

Super Human strength is one thing, if you can lift a car over your head you can stay. If you can eat the same car and then regurgitate it as a projectile weapon, you can definitely stay.

If, as **G.B.H.** said, you tend to be just a _strong guy_, go join the WWF or the cirus (or are they the same thing?).

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**Author:** ![BuddhaDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ea5d25/32.png) [@BuddhaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BuddhaDog)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2001, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonderwoman-batman-turn-in-your-badges/86430/31 "2001-10-10T16:41:20Z")

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> \*Originally posted by BuddhaDog \*  
> \*\*go join the WWF or the cirus (or are they the same thing?). \*\*

cir **C** us.

yeah, thats the ticket

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**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2001, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonderwoman-batman-turn-in-your-badges/86430/32 "2001-10-10T16:53:41Z")

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> \*Originally posted by BuddhaDog \*  
> \*\*You are no longer welcome in The Halls of Justice.
> 
> No debate. No complaints.  
> Turn in your badges, keep you gadgets and go.
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> \*\*

Badges!?!?! We don’t need no stinking badges.

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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2001, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonderwoman-batman-turn-in-your-badges/86430/33 "2001-10-10T17:12:14Z")

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With the revivification of Wonder Woman about ten years ago, wasn’t she imbued by Hermes with the power of flight? She stopped “gliding on air currents” a long time ago.

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2001, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonderwoman-batman-turn-in-your-badges/86430/34 "2001-10-10T18:09:50Z")

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> \*Originally posted by FlyingDragonFan \*  
> \*\*
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> > [@](#):
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> > \*Originally posted by Cliffy \*  
> > Um, Aquaman’s kinda dead.
> 
> Not quite. He did get his left hand bitten off by something or other, and he now sports a beard and long hair, but he’s far from deceased. \*\*

Nope, he’s dead in a big, already forgotten cross-over event that just came out this summer.

**Otto** , you’re right, but since the OP was talking about the “spinning lasso” and stuff, I figured I’d quibble about the “traditional” (aka pre-Crisis) Wonder Woman.

Fenris

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**Author:** ![Fiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e274bd/32.png) [@Fiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiver)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2001, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonderwoman-batman-turn-in-your-badges/86430/35 "2001-10-10T18:14:18Z")

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**Fenris** :

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> We’ll start with two easy questions.

I’ll say!

_What did T.H.U.N.D.E.R. stand for?_ Please. **T** he **H** igher **U** nited **N** ations **D** efense **E** nforcement **R** eserves.

_Ray Palmer also has an innate super-power that no-one else shares. What is it?_ Piece of cake. He can shrink to a height of six inches, yet still have a penis that is six inches long. Not even Doll Man is capable of this.

Who is Len Snart? What two characters have their origins tied up in a bunker called Command-D?

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**Author:** ![Cliffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@Cliffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cliffy)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2001, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonderwoman-batman-turn-in-your-badges/86430/36 "2001-10-10T18:18:32Z")

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> \*Originally posted by FlyingDragonFan \*  
> \*\*
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> > [@](#):
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> > \*Originally posted by Cliffy \*  
> > Um, Aquaman’s kinda dead.
> 
> Not quite. He did get his left hand bitten off by something or other, and he now sports a beard and long hair, but he’s far from deceased. \*\*

Looks like somebody isn’t keeping up with their comics reading. Aquaman was killed about two months ago during the world-wide battle against Imperiex. (Although there are already rumors that he’ll be brought back in the near future; the original plan was to kill him off for good but TPTB put the kibosh on that because they wanted to license him out.)

–Cliffy

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2001, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonderwoman-batman-turn-in-your-badges/86430/37 "2001-10-10T18:47:46Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Fiver \*  
> \*\ ***Fenris** :
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> > [@](#):
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> > We’ll start with two easy questions.
> 
> I’ll say!
> 
> _What did T.H.U.N.D.E.R. stand for?_ Please. **T** he **H** igher **U** nited **N** ations **D** efense **E** nforcement **R** eserves.  
> \*\*

Yup.  
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> _Ray Palmer also has an innate super-power that no-one else shares. What is it?_ Piece of cake. He can shrink to a height of six inches, yet still have a penis that is six inches long. Not even Doll Man is capable of this.  
> \*\*

Bbbzzzzt. Wrong answer (but funny…but no points for funny 😉 ) Wanna try again or should I 'xplain?

\*\*

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> Who is Len Snart? What two characters have their origins tied up in a bunker called Command-D? \*\*

Yawn…  
It is to laugh. Try a hard one next time.  
Len Snart is Captain Cold  
Kamandi and Tommy Tomorrow began in Command-D, but O.M.A.C ended his career there. And the Atomic Knights, Hercules Unbound and a number of other characters were also connected with that storyline.

Fenris

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2001, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonderwoman-batman-turn-in-your-badges/86430/38 "2001-10-10T18:54:17Z")

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Alright, you want harder?

The Blackhawks became Super-Heroes for a while. Name…oh, say…one of their Super-Hero identities (and describe the gawd-awful costume for the character you picked).

Sugar and Spike had a friend who was a genius. They also had a nemesis. List each of the character’s names.

In Bob Bolling’s magnificent L’il Archie strip, name L’il Betty’s cat.

What was the name of Stanley’s Monster, PRE-Crisis?

Fenris

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**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2001, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonderwoman-batman-turn-in-your-badges/86430/39 "2001-10-10T18:59:42Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Cliffy \*  
> **Looks like somebody isn’t keeping up with their comics reading. Aquaman was killed about two months ago during the world-wide battle against Imperiex.**

As long as we’re talking about Aquaman…

I’m with writer Peter David on this one – why does everyone dismiss Aquaman? He’s a freakin’ monarch, he’s responsible for peacekeeping of 3/4ths of the Earth’s surface, he’s got superhuman strength and endurance (he needs it, to endure the depths of the sea) … and he never gets any respect. WTF? Sure, the _Superfriends_ cartoons had him do nothing more than talk with the fishies, but when you think about it, the guy has the potential to be one _major_ badass in the DC universe. You can drop Aquaman into the middle of the Bronx at midnight and he won’t even break a sweat, but drop Batman into the middle of the Atlantic and see how long he lasts.

Anyone else agree? And if not, why do you think Aquaman’s such a wuss?

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**Author:** ![Anal\_Scurvy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c57346/32.png) [@Anal\_Scurvy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anal_Scurvy)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2001, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonderwoman-batman-turn-in-your-badges/86430/40 "2001-10-10T19:17:28Z")

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Ray Palmer’s ability no one else shares? The ability not to explode after an hour? (Or some silly crap like that. It varies every month and that rule came up after it’d been broken billions of times.)

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