# Wonderwoman & Batman, turn in your badges **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 9, 2001, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonderwoman-batman-turn-in-your-badges/86430 "2001-10-09T22:47:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Balance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Balance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balance)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2001, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonderwoman-batman-turn-in-your-badges/86430/61 "2001-10-11T16:35:16Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by cmkeller \* > It was indeed Tin, but the girlfriend wasn’t Tina…that was what they all called Platinum. Tin’s girlfriend was “Nameless.” Nitpick: Tin insisted that her name was “Beautiful”. After she was blown to scrap saving their butts, no one had the heart to argue. Also, all of the Metal Men had Metal Women counterparts at one time, and Tina had Platinum Man. It didn’t work out too well–none of them got along. (I just know I shouldn’t have gotten involved in this–I’m totally outmatched in comics trivia–but Tin’s girlfriend met her end in one of my favorite Batman comics.) ---
**Author:** ![Fiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e274bd/32.png) [@Fiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiver)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2001, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonderwoman-batman-turn-in-your-badges/86430/62 "2001-10-11T16:40:42Z")
And what did Doc Magnus call the “brain” he put into all his robot creations? Dexter Giles was indeed the curator of the Flash Museum, and also a hammy Shakespearean. But who kidnapped him, then impersonated him, in an attempt on Flash’s life? ---
**Author:** ![Mockingbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c68b51/32.png) [@Mockingbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mockingbird)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2001, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonderwoman-batman-turn-in-your-badges/86430/63 "2001-10-11T16:49:52Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by BuddhaDog \* > \*\*You are no longer welcome in The Halls of Justice. > > No debate. No complaints. > Turn in your badges, keep you gadgets and go. > > **Wonderwoman** > [list=a][li]Lasso of Truth [_]Invisible Plane [_]Bullet Deflecting Bracelets [/list=a][/li] > About the only **Superpower** you possess is the quick and expediant way you _twirl_ out of you plain clothes and into you costume. > Good bye. > > \*\* Incorrect. Pre-crisis, Wonder Woman’s powers came from the gods and were: Hercules: Strength Mercury: Speed Aphrodite: Beauty Athena: Wisdom She could glide on air currents as well. Post-crisis, George Perez understood that the Greek and Roman pantheons are different and thus, Wonder Woman’s powers derived from: Athena: Warrior skills and wisdom Hestia: Power of truth Hermes: Speed and flight Gaea: Strength Aphrodite: Beauty Her bracelets were forged from the shards of Zeus’ shield Ageis, and her costume was created in honor of Diana Trevor(Steve Trevor’s mother) who crash landed on Themyscira and died defending the Amazons from Cottus, the monster who guarded Doom’s Doorway. [http://www.hastur.com/WonderWoman](http://www.hastur.com/WonderWoman) The Phantom Stranger also refused JLA membership, but like Metamorpho was considered a reservist. Metamorpho later became a member of Justice League Europe. ---
**Author:** ![FlyingDragonFan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c89c15/32.png) [@FlyingDragonFan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlyingDragonFan)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2001, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonderwoman-batman-turn-in-your-badges/86430/64 "2001-10-11T17:04:42Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Hastur \* > Nope. He’s quite dead. Killed two months ago in the Our Worlds At War multi title company crossover. Okay, okay, I’ve been called on this one already!! Sheesh! 🙂 But I did just buy a couple of one-shots with him in them last week. They must have been there awhile. ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2001, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonderwoman-batman-turn-in-your-badges/86430/65 "2001-10-11T17:42:14Z")
Does anyone remember/miss **Sgt. Rock, The Haunted Tank, Our Army at War,** the one with the German WWI ace, and numerous other comics relating to our armed services? I know they’re not super-heroes, but alongside **Batman** and the aforementioned **Blackhawks** they were my favorite comics. Do any of you comics gurus know why these were discontinued? They were all DC comics so I was wondering if it had something to do with their troubles which led to Jeannette Kahn taking over as publisher? From what I remember, these were well-written and well-drawn stories, and I wouldn’t mind seeing them again, if only as re-issues. Q ---
**Author:** ![lurkernomore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d6d6ee/32.png) [@lurkernomore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lurkernomore)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2001, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonderwoman-batman-turn-in-your-badges/86430/66 "2001-10-11T18:05:21Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Fiver \* > \*\*And what did Doc Magnus call the “brain” he put into all his robot creations? > \*\* I think this is close, at least - “responsometers”? ---
**Author:** ![Anal\_Scurvy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c57346/32.png) [@Anal\_Scurvy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anal_Scurvy)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2001, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonderwoman-batman-turn-in-your-badges/86430/67 "2001-10-11T22:39:31Z")
[QUOTE] \*Originally posted by Fenris \* **Scurvy** : First mutant? Um…It depends how you count. I suspect you’re thinking of Sub-Mariner, but he isn’t a mutant, although there’ve been some later attempts to make him one. Professor X was the first X-Man to appear on panel, wasn’t he? You’ve got Miss America, but I don’t think she was a mutant back then. I give. About five years ago, Marvel reprinted an old Amazing Fantasy issue with a man in a blue suit who could fly because, he decided, he was a mutant. It preceded Spider-man, and the reason they reprinted it is because he was, technically, the first mutant. Don’t ask for where it was reprinted, but it should be widely available because it was probably some giant milk-sucking special edition of some X-title. ---
**Author:** ![Cliffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@Cliffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cliffy)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2001, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonderwoman-batman-turn-in-your-badges/86430/68 "2001-10-13T17:30:28Z")
Not everything in Marvel’s pre-Silver Age comics is in continuity. The first mutant to appear in a Marvel comic was Professor X, who was pictured alone in the first two panels of X-Men #1 before Cyclops, Angel, Beast and Iceman were pictured in the third. Although there was some question as to whether Namor is a mutant or not, originally he wasn’t. –Cliffy ---
**Author:** ![JubilationTCornpone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ee59a6/32.png) [@JubilationTCornpone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JubilationTCornpone)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2001, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonderwoman-batman-turn-in-your-badges/86430/69 "2001-10-13T17:47:31Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by BuddhaDog \* > \*\*Well, if Wonder Woman can fly (Or whatever **Fenris** said why the hell does she need to have the invisible airplane? > > [old joke begging to be told] > > "How does she find her airplane, anyway? > > [/ojbtbt] \*\* Presumably, the same way Air Force pilots board their stealth bombers. They feel around the hangar until they come across the fuselage, then they _carefully_ climb in. ---
**Author:** ![JubilationTCornpone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ee59a6/32.png) [@JubilationTCornpone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JubilationTCornpone)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2001, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonderwoman-batman-turn-in-your-badges/86430/70 "2001-10-13T17:50:23Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by lurkernomore \* > \*\* > > > [@](#): > > > > \*Originally posted by Fiver \* > > \*\*And what did Doc Magnus call the “brain” he put into all his robot creations? > > \*\* > > I think this is close, at least - “responsometers”? \*\* Responsometers. Yes. ---
**Author:** ![JubilationTCornpone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ee59a6/32.png) [@JubilationTCornpone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JubilationTCornpone)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2001, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonderwoman-batman-turn-in-your-badges/86430/71 "2001-10-13T17:52:33Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Hastur \* > \*\* > > > [@](#): > > > > \*Originally posted by FlyingDragonFan \* > > \*\* > > > > > [@](#): > > > > > > \*Originally posted by Cliffy \* > > > Um, Aquaman’s kinda dead. > > > > Not quite. He did get his left hand bitten off by something or other, and he now sports a beard and long hair, but he’s far from deceased. \*\* > > Nope. He’s quite dead. Killed two months ago in the Our Worlds At War multi title company crossover. \*\* Dare I say this? He’s going to get better. ---
**Author:** ![JubilationTCornpone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ee59a6/32.png) [@JubilationTCornpone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JubilationTCornpone)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2001, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonderwoman-batman-turn-in-your-badges/86430/72 "2001-10-13T18:00:16Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by Fenris \* > \*\* > **Mary Marvel** : Shazam! (Selene, Hippolyta, Ariadne, Zephyrus, Aurora, Minerva) and a much lamer group of powers. Aurora for beauty? How useless is that when fighting telepathic evil space-worms or Frog-Men from Venus?)_\* Actually, in current continuity, she’s been sharing the name of Captain Marvel, thereby making her “the female Captain Marvel.” Unfortunately, due to some careless writers, many of the comics wound up calling her “Mary Marvel” nonetheless. Supposedly, she now derives her powers from the same pantheon as the male Captain Marvel. This make sense, since Zephyrus was a male diety, while the others are all female. Moreover, while beauty has its applications (charming police officers, for example, or distracting hormonally crazed villains), it’s not much of a superpower. > [@](#): > > \*\ ***Shazam:** (in his younger days) Had a word that I can’t remember (with Babylonian Gods, IIRC) \*\* His magic word was “Vlarem.” ---
**Author:** ![broccoli](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@broccoli](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/broccoli)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2001, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonderwoman-batman-turn-in-your-badges/86430/73 "2001-10-16T18:13:08Z")
O.K., bad trivia question: In the late 80’s what writer killed off the entire Marvel Universe in ONE comic book? ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2001, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonderwoman-batman-turn-in-your-badges/86430/74 "2001-10-16T19:01:56Z")
Henbeck ---
**Author:** ![Cliffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@Cliffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cliffy)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2001, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonderwoman-batman-turn-in-your-badges/86430/75 "2001-10-16T19:27:31Z")
Ooh, so close. Just missed by one hump! –Cliffy ---
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2001, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonderwoman-batman-turn-in-your-badges/86430/76 "2001-10-16T19:51:40Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Fenris \* > \*\*Henbeck \*\* He **m** beck. Fred Hembeck, he of the curly-Q knees. ---
**Author:** ![SpaceGhostofArrakis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc348/32.png) [@SpaceGhostofArrakis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpaceGhostofArrakis)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2001, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonderwoman-batman-turn-in-your-badges/86430/77 "2001-10-16T20:57:00Z")
Damn, how’d _that_ happen? ---
**Author:** ![jab1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ee7513/32.png) [@jab1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jab1)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2001, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonderwoman-batman-turn-in-your-badges/86430/78 "2001-10-16T22:54:58Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by broccoli! \* > \*\*what writer killed off the entire Marvel Universe in ONE comic book? \*\* The Beyonder crap, right? ---
**Author:** ![Cliffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@Cliffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cliffy)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2001, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonderwoman-batman-turn-in-your-badges/86430/79 "2001-10-17T19:40:12Z")
No, the above-mentioned comic is by Fred Hembeck. It was titled, IIRC, “Fred Hembeck Kills the Marvel Universe.” –Cliffy ---
**Author:** ![Olentzero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90ced4/32.png) [@Olentzero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Olentzero)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2001, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonderwoman-batman-turn-in-your-badges/86430/80 "2001-10-17T19:40:54Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Fiver \* > **The Four Realities are the layers of Twinks, Chips, Hoops and Slats that beans have to swim down through to battle the Hoi-Polloi for their Chow. From Tales of the Beanworld.** Oh, _man_! Talk about bringing back memories! I ran across _Beanworld_ a couple of years ago at a comic store in Bethesda while on a lunch break from my old bookstore job. That stuff was pretty cool - the kind of thing that really made me want to get into comics myself someday. Thanks for throwing that out - something more to ask for on my upcoming birthday! You rock, **Fiver**. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonderwoman-batman-turn-in-your-badges/86430.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wonderwoman-batman-turn-in-your-badges/86430.md?page=5)