# Woo-hoo! A celebrity death we can all feel good about! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 24, 2002, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woo-hoo-a-celebrity-death-we-can-all-feel-good-about/120576 "2002-07-24T14:44:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Kantalooppi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/a5b964/32.png) [@Kantalooppi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kantalooppi)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2002, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woo-hoo-a-celebrity-death-we-can-all-feel-good-about/120576/41 "2002-07-26T19:03:55Z")
What, no-one thought of Googling for ‘turner diaries’, which leads to page which contains the [Turner Diaries](http://www.angelfire.com/hi/themadmoose/td.html) in an on-line form? ---
**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2002, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woo-hoo-a-celebrity-death-we-can-all-feel-good-about/120576/42 "2002-07-26T19:29:56Z")
[This](http://www.american-pictures.com/) makes it dificult for me to be quite as estatic as some of you seem to be about this guy’s death, although I am greatful that he has ceased being a spreader of hatred. ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2002, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woo-hoo-a-celebrity-death-we-can-all-feel-good-about/120576/43 "2002-07-26T19:34:34Z")
I don’t believe that he died. I think that Satan just “called him home”. ---
**Author:** ![SuaSponte](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/67e7ee/32.png) [@SuaSponte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuaSponte)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2002, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woo-hoo-a-celebrity-death-we-can-all-feel-good-about/120576/44 "2002-07-26T23:27:16Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Baldwin \* > \*\*Why do supremacists always show signs of being inferior people? Even if for some weird reason I believed my “race” was better than others, what would be more pathetic than basing my whole identity on that? \*\* Isn’t that self-evident? Only inferior people are supremacists. Sua ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2002, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woo-hoo-a-celebrity-death-we-can-all-feel-good-about/120576/45 "2002-07-27T03:46:37Z")
No problem **Kyla**. I was simply curious. The book physically disgusts me too, but then I live in Topeka, Kansas, home of Fred Phelps, and thus have developed a thick skin and a high gross-out threshold. When you have heard a little old lady(who was wearing a red skirt in honor of the festival of Pentecost) being told the red color hides the blood pouring out of her rectum, nothing much suprises you. He once personally called \*me[/] a “church whore” This was due to the fact he saw me in attendance at one church and helping supposrt another by holding signs countering Freds’ message. The epithet meant “that I didn’t know where I wanted to do my spiritual fornicating”. And **Kantalooppi** , I did read it online, because like **Kyla**. I didn’t want any of my money to go to Pierce(who _did_ use the pen-name Andrew McDonald). ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2002, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woo-hoo-a-celebrity-death-we-can-all-feel-good-about/120576/46 "2002-07-27T03:49:07Z")
Preview, always preview, and make sure my italics are properly marked. ---
**Author:** ![Sofa\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/58956e/32.png) [@Sofa\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sofa_King)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2002, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woo-hoo-a-celebrity-death-we-can-all-feel-good-about/120576/47 "2002-07-27T04:37:08Z")
**Unclebeer** , if you were a woman, I’d ask you to dance. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2002, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woo-hoo-a-celebrity-death-we-can-all-feel-good-about/120576/48 "2002-07-27T05:01:23Z")
Gee, **Sofa King** , I hope you just posted in the wrong thread. (Otherwise, it would appear that you have been imbibing a bit of something, yourself.) ---
**Author:** ![Sofa\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/58956e/32.png) [@Sofa\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sofa_King)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2002, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woo-hoo-a-celebrity-death-we-can-all-feel-good-about/120576/49 "2002-07-27T05:07:59Z")
Just 'cause he ain’t here yet doesn’t mean I didn’t call him first. Back off, **tomndebb** , you mink! ---
**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2002, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woo-hoo-a-celebrity-death-we-can-all-feel-good-about/120576/50 "2002-07-27T05:35:24Z")
Beverly Eads, owner of the Country Roads Cafe, said Pierce was a frequent customer. She described him as a smart man who kept to himself. “When anyone dies, it’s a shame, but it’s too bad he didn’t feel the same way,” she said. What a wonderful woman. Let’s take her as an example. Should I read racist writings to know my enemy? i really don’t want to, but I will if it will improve the universe (I am deliberately setting my standards quite high.) ---
**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2002, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woo-hoo-a-celebrity-death-we-can-all-feel-good-about/120576/51 "2002-07-27T05:36:45Z")
> [@](#): > > Unclebeer, if you were a woman, I’d ask you to dance. “We had this electric moment when you said to me, ‘Why do you have to be gay?’ and I said to you, ‘Me? Why do you have to be a woman?’” - Nick, in _It’s My Party_ ---
**Author:** ![Sofa\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/58956e/32.png) [@Sofa\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sofa_King)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2002, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woo-hoo-a-celebrity-death-we-can-all-feel-good-about/120576/52 "2002-07-27T06:08:35Z")
Excuse me, but since the SDMB search engine is utterly fucked, I submit to recent memory that I promised the good **Uncle** that I would bow to his irrational wish that people should no longer state their personal desires to see annoying public figures die. This appears to [offend him](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=83026&perpage=50&highlight=death&pagenumber=2) personally, and as I stated another thread which I can no longer find, I promised to defer to his opinion in my capacity as a cool dude, but not as a matter of policy. Therefore, if **Unclebeer** wants to dance on this bastard’s grave, I get the first dance. And I’ve got a rose in my teeth, too. ---
**Author:** ![Badtz\_Maru](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e36b37/32.png) [@Badtz\_Maru](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Badtz_Maru)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2002, 7:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woo-hoo-a-celebrity-death-we-can-all-feel-good-about/120576/53 "2002-07-27T07:59:49Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Baldwin \* > \*\*Why do supremacists always show signs of being inferior people? Even if for some weird reason I believed my “race” was better than others, what would be more pathetic than basing my whole identity on that? > > Maybe David Duke’s head will implode and make for a really good week. \*\* I think it’s because the truly superior people are smart enough to realize that it’s not their race that’s superior, it’s just themselves. That’s how I think, at least. ---
**Author:** ![RexDart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@RexDart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RexDart)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2002, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woo-hoo-a-celebrity-death-we-can-all-feel-good-about/120576/54 "2002-07-27T18:47:43Z")
As a strong opponent of the death penalty, I cannot bring myself to experience glee at anyone’s death. I was driving through Terre Haute last year the day before the execution of the man _The Turner Diaries_ inspired to bomb a federal building in Oklahoma. I thought about the fact that someone was going to die tomorrow right there, and instead of trying to stop it the government was bringing it about. I felt the same way about his death penalty as any other, and I feel the same way about this Pierce fellow’s death as any other, with a caveat. I suppose that with some deaths we have a feeling that the death has prevented contributions to our own lives that would have followed from the deceased. I felt that way about Phil Hartman and Chris Farley, and certainly _not_ about this Pierce guy. Still, there’s a level on which all deaths should be lamented. There is a spark of life, now extinguished. If we think of a death only in how it affects us who remain on Earth, we belittle life. I bet this Pierce fellow cheered when MLK was killed because he thought the death would make life better for him and people whose opinions he agreed with. How is it any better now that we cheer Pierce’s death because we think his death makes life better for _us_ and people whose opinions _we_ agree with? ---
**Author:** ![grendel72](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/91b2a8/32.png) [@grendel72](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grendel72)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2002, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woo-hoo-a-celebrity-death-we-can-all-feel-good-about/120576/55 "2002-07-27T19:02:50Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by RexDart \* > \*\*I bet this Pierce fellow cheered when MLK was killed because he thought the death would make life better for him and people whose opinions he agreed with. How is it any better now that we cheer Pierce’s death because we think his death makes life better for _us_ and people whose opinions _we_ agree with? \*\* Because he’s wrong and we’re right. It’s honestly that simple. Moral relativism is all well and good but Pierce’s views are observably, tangibly evil and it is a good thing that he’s dead, it will continue to be a good thing when more people of his ilk die and more and more of their descendants realise the hateful drivel they were tought as children was wrong. It is always good when there is one less evil person in the world, whether because they died or because they learned the error of their ways. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2002, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woo-hoo-a-celebrity-death-we-can-all-feel-good-about/120576/56 "2002-07-28T06:45:50Z")
Hear hear, **grendel**. ---
**Author:** ![hansel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6bbea6/32.png) [@hansel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hansel)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2002, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woo-hoo-a-celebrity-death-we-can-all-feel-good-about/120576/57 "2002-07-28T15:52:44Z")
I’m uncertain what the legal status of The Nuremberg Files is now: would it be illegal to put up a web page listing Pierce, Phelps, and every other hateful asshole we can think of, and then crossing off Pierce? We could title the page “DING DONG The Witch Is Dead!” ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2002, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woo-hoo-a-celebrity-death-we-can-all-feel-good-about/120576/58 "2002-07-28T16:23:08Z")
Rex, here’s the thing. I’m Jewish. This asshole wanted me _dead_. He considers me an enemy. He pushed an agenda to reinstate Concentration Camps for “my kind”. There’s nothing wrong with being joyful and relieved that an enemy who wants you dead is no longer around to try to hurt you. [Source](http://www.adl.org/learn/Ext_US/Pierce.asp): > [@](#): > > In another speech on November 11, 2000, Pierce, using Holocaust imagery, talked about “feminized, Judaized wimps,” white men who are not doing their part to advance the white race: “The feminized wimps need to be removed from our government, from our media, from our educational institutions, and replaced by real white men…That’ll be a tough job…I don’t really care how the job is done – whether the wimps all get machine-gunned and bulldozed into giant lime pits or whether their thinking is eventually straightened out by a program of prolonged trauma and privation.” I’m not glad he’s dead for his sake, I’m glad he’s dead for mine and my family’s, if that makes sense. Fenris ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2002, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woo-hoo-a-celebrity-death-we-can-all-feel-good-about/120576/59 "2002-07-28T16:26:16Z")
More from that same source > [@](#): > > Pierce’s sequel to The Turner Diaries, called Hunter, has also become popular among white supremacists. It tells the story of a drive-by killer who tries to cleanse America of its “sickness” by murdering interracial couples and eventually “working his way up” to assassinating Jews ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2002, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woo-hoo-a-celebrity-death-we-can-all-feel-good-about/120576/60 "2002-07-28T17:49:29Z")
Oh my G-d, \*\*Fenris, \*\* I hadn’t heard that Pierce wrote _another_ book! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woo-hoo-a-celebrity-death-we-can-all-feel-good-about/120576.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woo-hoo-a-celebrity-death-we-can-all-feel-good-about/120576.md?page=4)