# WOO-HOO--Bernie Madoff's prom night is TONIGHT

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woo-hoo-bernie-madoffs-prom-night-is-tonight/489201>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [March 12, 2009, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woo-hoo-bernie-madoffs-prom-night-is-tonight/489201 "2009-03-12T15:14:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 8\
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**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2009, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woo-hoo-bernie-madoffs-prom-night-is-tonight/489201/41 "2009-03-13T19:48:49Z")

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> [@Harriet\_the\_Spry](#):
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> I hope his sentence includes some work release. There are a variety of jobs I’d like to see him do. Picking up litter at the side of the road wearing one of those orange jumpsuits would be perfect.

The perfect sentence would include some, you know, actual work, possibly at minimum wage, as others have said.

I know it feels good to wish for nasty things to happen to him, but that’s the heat of anger, and it’s just our killer-ape heritage speaking. That kind of thing carried out in reality leads to complications.

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**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2009, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woo-hoo-bernie-madoffs-prom-night-is-tonight/489201/42 "2009-03-13T21:34:38Z")

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I think rape anywhere is disgusting. People expressing their wishes for rape in prisons makes me ill. Can’t we at least send this to the Pit?

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**Author:** ![accidentalyuppie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@accidentalyuppie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/accidentalyuppie)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2009, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woo-hoo-bernie-madoffs-prom-night-is-tonight/489201/43 "2009-03-14T16:05:48Z")

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> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#):
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> I think rape anywhere is disgusting. People expressing their wishes for rape in prisons makes me ill. Can’t we at least send this to the Pit?

If this is making you ill, you REALLY don’t want to read what I would post under pit rules. Really. I mean it.

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**Author:** ![Hello\_Again](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/85e7bf/32.png) [@Hello\_Again](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hello_Again)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2009, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woo-hoo-bernie-madoffs-prom-night-is-tonight/489201/44 "2009-03-14T16:16:06Z")

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Madoff was “remanded into custody” as they say pending his sentencing (which I believe is scheduled for June). He is currently incarcerated at the Metropolitan Correctional Center in lower Manhattan (which is no club Fed let me tell you) and I read this morning that he is separated from the other prisoners for his own safety.

[http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29661694/](http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29661694/)

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2009, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woo-hoo-bernie-madoffs-prom-night-is-tonight/489201/45 "2009-03-14T18:30:33Z")

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> [@accidentalyuppie](#):
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> If this is making you ill, you REALLY don’t want to read what I would post under pit rules. Really. I mean it.

[Go ahead.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=10936673#post10936673)

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**Author:** ![Ocean\_Annie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8797f3/32.png) [@Ocean\_Annie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ocean_Annie)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2009, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woo-hoo-bernie-madoffs-prom-night-is-tonight/489201/46 "2009-03-15T03:04:49Z")

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> [@Mr.Moto](#):
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> I don’t want to ruin your fun, folks, but I find it a bit disgusting when people wish for another to be sexually abused.
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> If we were to make sexual abuse an explicit part of the prison sentence, it would get an Eighth Amendment smackdown mighty fast. Frankly, as it stands, many prison systems are over this line, IMHO, because they don’t do enough to prevent it.
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> And any reform of the system runs into a pack of idiots who feel that these people got what they deserved, including rape.

The prison system is dehumanizing and cruel. America needs to confront its own human rights abuses before focusing on other countries.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2009, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woo-hoo-bernie-madoffs-prom-night-is-tonight/489201/47 "2009-03-16T00:54:09Z")

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> [@Ocean\_Annie](#):
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> The prison system is dehumanizing and cruel. America needs to confront its own human rights abuses before focusing on other countries.

In what way, and what would you suggest?

(Other than cracking down on sexual and/or physical abuse that occurs)

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2009, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woo-hoo-bernie-madoffs-prom-night-is-tonight/489201/48 "2009-03-16T02:26:29Z")

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> [@](#):
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> I don’t want to ruin your fun, folks, but I find it a bit disgusting when people wish for another to be sexually abused.
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> If we were to make sexual abuse an explicit part of the prison sentence, it would get an Eighth Amendment smackdown mighty fast. Frankly, as it stands, many prison systems are over this line, IMHO, because they don’t do enough to prevent it.
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> And any reform of the system runs into a pack of idiots who feel that these people got what they deserved, including rape.

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> The prison system is dehumanizing and cruel. America needs to confront its own human rights abuses before focusing on other countries.

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> I lack expertise on the state of the conditions at correctional facilities, but… I don’t think people get shived in white collar prisons.

I, on the other hand, do have expertise on the state of conditions at correctional facilities. A good general rule in life is don’t believe everything you see in movies or on TV. But when it comes to prison, the rule is don’t believe anything you see in movies or on TV.

Rapes are not a common occurence in prisons. Most prisoners are not raped. It’s no doubt a surprise to many people but the guards actually are there to guard against things like that.

We don’t rape prisoners. We don’t murder prisoners. We don’t beat prisoners. We don’t force prisoners to engage in bizarre gladiatorial combat or rigged football games or pornographic sex rings or illicit organ harvesting. In the New York state prison system, we’re currently addressing what is apparently one of the biggest remaining problems we’re facing - we’re all undergoing mandatory sensitivity training so we don’t inadvertantly say anything that would hurt a prisoner’s feelings.

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