# Woo!  I got me my own African money scam e-mail!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woo-i-got-me-my-own-african-money-scam-e-mail/386114>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [December 30, 2006, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woo-i-got-me-my-own-african-money-scam-e-mail/386114 "2006-12-30T14:35:21Z")\
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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2007, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woo-i-got-me-my-own-african-money-scam-e-mail/386114/41 "2007-01-05T12:26:59Z")

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[QUOTE=chowder]  
…  
Savage Rogering  
Herts…  
[/QUOTE]  
It does, it does.

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**Author:** ![chowder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@chowder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chowder)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2007, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woo-i-got-me-my-own-african-money-scam-e-mail/386114/42 "2007-01-05T13:30:44Z")

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[QUOTE=Tripler]  
What ho! A reply on this morn:

I have this image in my head of “Kinglsey” in a white dress bending down to his R2 unit: “Help me Lamar Tripler, you’re our only hope!”

It strikes me that he hasn’t asked for money up front yet–only to contact his ‘bank manager’ which I may do later on today.

Tripler  
And if they try to come after me, blazing-hot lightsaber death awaits.  
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You do realise that the"bank manager" will be the scammer himself.

**Mangetout**

Not half as much as:

The Old Hole  
Much Buggery  
Lower Regions  
Berks.

Another of my ancestral homes 😃

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**Author:** ![mischievous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mischievous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mischievous)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2007, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woo-i-got-me-my-own-african-money-scam-e-mail/386114/43 "2007-01-05T18:05:44Z")

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I’m not saying stop the fun, guys! I just wanted to remind you (and the teeming millions that may not be as smart or careful as you) to remember that this CAN be a dangerous game if not played well. It is easy to imagine that someone might get their egos so wrapped up in the anti-scam that they inadvertently give out more than they wanted to in order to keep the fun coming. You have to be willing to let it drop when it gets to the point of no return.

In the meantime, by all means keep us entertained!

mischievous

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**Author:** ![Tripler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripler/32/21807_2.png) [@Tripler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tripler)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2007, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woo-i-got-me-my-own-african-money-scam-e-mail/386114/44 "2007-01-07T14:43:54Z")

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Well, I got a somewhat-desperate e-mail today:

> [@](#):
>
> Dear Lamar
> 
> How are you today i hope all is well with you over there?please do you reiceve my maill?please it you have contacted the bankers please try and get back to me today Thanks
> 
> God be with us  
> Your’s  
> Kingsley G

I haven’t responded to him in a few days, and I’ll be on the road to Alabama this afternoon. Any ideas? I may string him along until tonight. . .

Tripler  
. . . assuming I have an Internet connection in my dorm room.

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**Author:** ![chowder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@chowder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chowder)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2007, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woo-i-got-me-my-own-african-money-scam-e-mail/386114/45 "2007-01-07T14:54:48Z")

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I’ve not heard at all., guess he may have decided to jusy go for you 😃  
Suggest you leave it a day then tell him you’re sorry but business yadda, yadda yadda sometimes keeps you away. Plus you are trying to find a decent investment for your back pay or whatever else you’ve told him.

Tell him you’ll get in touch with his bankers pronto

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**Author:** ![Tripler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripler/32/21807_2.png) [@Tripler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tripler)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2007, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woo-i-got-me-my-own-african-money-scam-e-mail/386114/46 "2007-01-07T14:57:46Z")

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Will do! Hopefully I’ll be able to tonight. . .

Tripler  
. . . Stay tuned as “Days of our Nigerian Lives” continues.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2007, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woo-i-got-me-my-own-african-money-scam-e-mail/386114/47 "2007-01-07T15:25:05Z")

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[QUOTE=Tripler]  
Well, I got a somewhat-desperate e-mail today:

I haven’t responded to him in a few days, and I’ll be on the road to Alabama this afternoon. Any ideas? I may string him along until tonight. . .

Tripler  
. . . assuming I have an Internet connection in my dorm room.  
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I say go ahead and contact the “bank manager.” One of the good things about playing along with talking to the scammer’s other identities is that it gives you an opportunity to insult the hell out of the scammer without giving away the bait. The “banker” will ask you for a bunch of personal information, passport scans, etc. You can string him along by asking him to clarify things, making him resend forms, etc., and you can excoriate him for his incompetence all the while. You can also complain to “Kingsley” about what an idiot his banker is. You’d be telling both of his fake identities what a moron he is while still seeming to be on the hook.

Also, pay attention to the names attached to the emails. I’ve notice on the scambaiting sites like 419 Eater and Scamorama that a lot of these assholes tend to forget which fake names they’ve already used with you, or even what their ostensible role is supposed to be (“Bank Vice President Charles Otoh” suddenly becomes “Barrister Joseph Tonka”). When that happens, you can demand to know who the hell this “new” person is an what the hell is he doing involving himself in your private (supposedly “secret”) affairs. Write to the “banker” and bawl him out for talking out of school.

You still have to keep holding out the carrot, though, and remind them that you got a big wad of cash just begging to be wired somewhere. Something else that seems to keep them in the line is if you let them believe another scammer has gotten to you. Tell them you’ve been contacted about another “investment” opportunity involving a larger sum of money. These guys hate it when another scammer tries to poach their fish.

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**Author:** ![TheLoadedDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/35a633/32.png) [@TheLoadedDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheLoadedDog)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2007, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woo-i-got-me-my-own-african-money-scam-e-mail/386114/48 "2007-01-07T22:56:00Z")

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My personal favourite of the anti-scam ploys was the one on Scamorama where they got the scammer to use code phrases (for “security” reasons), and had the lads saying “no tengo cojones” when they made any phone calls. The phone number they were given was for the hedquaters of the _Federales_, the Mexico City cops. Brilliant. 😃

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2007, 10:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woo-i-got-me-my-own-african-money-scam-e-mail/386114/49 "2007-01-09T10:09:16Z")

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There’s obviously an art to this. I had one whom I tried to persuade that I only accepted business propositions in Welsh, on the advice of my astrologer, but that was obviously too hard, as he apologised for not being able to help me and wished me luck elsewhere. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2007, 10:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woo-i-got-me-my-own-african-money-scam-e-mail/386114/50 "2007-01-09T10:37:21Z")

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I think [James Dale](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=400091) has given up on me - I don’t know whether he’s written me off because I kept asking questions, or if he’s just twigged that I’m not serious because of something I said (or the fact that my surname keeps getting longer each time I write.

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**Author:** ![Tripler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripler/32/21807_2.png) [@Tripler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tripler)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2007, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woo-i-got-me-my-own-african-money-scam-e-mail/386114/51 "2007-01-11T00:39:32Z")

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Well, after a few days on the road, and lacking internet in my hotel room (I’m in Alabama for the next five weeks), I dropped a line to ol’ Kingsley to let him know that I was “on the road attending to my uncle’s funeral. He made me the executor of his estate, so I might be out of pocket.”

I did also contact the “bank manager” just now, or at least sent the initial e-mail. More to follow.

Tripler  
Damn, Alabama doesn’t have the Internet yet.

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**Author:** ![Tripler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripler/32/21807_2.png) [@Tripler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tripler)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2007, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woo-i-got-me-my-own-african-money-scam-e-mail/386114/52 "2007-01-17T03:14:39Z")

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UPDATE!

After a few days of not hearing anything, I shot an e-mail to good ol’ Kinglsey, and you can see the paper trail that follows:

> [@](#):
>
> From: Tripler  
> To: kingsley  
> Date: Today
> 
> Good Day,
> 
> Mr Duncanbaly, Mr Gongolar asked me to contact you regarding a transfer between accounts.
> 
> Please e-mail me at your earliest convenience.
> 
> ## Thank you, Lamar Tripler
> 
> ## \>From: kingsley \>To: Tripler \>Subject: RE : RE: RE : RE: Please try and contact the bank director today. \>Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 11:01:54 +0100 (CET) \> \>Dear Mr.Lamar Tripler, \> \> i am surprised to hear that you have not heard from the bank.the bank director told me that he have contacted you,so please if you are still willing to help me i will sugest you contact the bank director through his direct email address. \> [Dr.Steven@XXXXXX.net](mailto:Dr.Steven@XXXXXX.net) \> Regards \> Kingsley
> 
> ## \>\>From: Tripler \>\>To: kingsley \>\>Date: [a few days prior to 16 Jan] \>\> \>\> Mr Gongolar, \>\> \>\>I have not heard anything from your bank, or you, in two days. I will be \>\>closing on the estate in two days, and without further correspondence from \>\>you, will be leaving you behind. Further, my name is “Lamar” not ‘Limar’. \>\>I have lost faith in your efforts, and am leaning towards taking my \>\>investment capital elsewhere. Please advise. . . \>\> \>\>Lamar Tripler

I just shot it out, so I’ll see how long it takes “Doctor Steve” to respond. At this point, I am willing to send him some stock picture of a Coast Guard guy at work, and ask that he send me one as well. . .

Tripler  
Off to Google Search!! Woo!

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**Author:** ![Tripler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripler/32/21807_2.png) [@Tripler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tripler)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2007, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woo-i-got-me-my-own-african-money-scam-e-mail/386114/53 "2007-01-18T17:06:36Z")

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I’m going to need help on this one:

> [@](#):
>
> From : kingsley gongolar  
> Sent : Thursday, January 18, 2007 9:53 AM  
> To : Tripler  
> Subject : please i am not joking!!!  
> Dear Lamar Tripler  
> Thank you for your mail i hope all is well with you over there? I am coming for the bank now and i meet the bank manger who told that him have get intch with him have not hear from you since,please i am not joking if you are joking please try and stop that, i come for you for help me to transfer my late father’s money into your account for invest and also for me to continue my stedy that is why i contacted you if not i have never think one day to ask for help when my father stell a life, now you late me think paste,please if you are not ready to help me kindly tell me so that i can look for some one who can help out for this transfer,Thank and God be with us
> 
> Your’s
> 
> Kingsley

Here’s the rub: I don’t think I’ve yanked his chain to joke with him (maybe he thinks I haven’t e-mailed the ‘manager’, but I have, repeatedly), and his grammar has taken a nose dive.

Experts, do I yank his chain now?

Tripler  
I still haven’t sent him a stock photo–haven’t had time.

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**Author:** ![Tripler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripler/32/21807_2.png) [@Tripler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tripler)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2007, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woo-i-got-me-my-own-african-money-scam-e-mail/386114/54 "2007-01-19T23:29:46Z")

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**HOT**!

**Chowder** , check your e-mail. I just got this:

> [@](#):
>
> From : kingsley gongolar  
> Sent : Friday, January 19, 2007 12:02 PM  
> To : Tripler  
> Subject : RE : RE: please i am not joking!!!
> 
> Dear Larmar Tripler,
> 
> if fact i am not happy with the content of your mail.i like people who are very straight in their dealings,i contacted because i believed that you are one of these people and from our previous mails i developed more truist and confidence in you that was i gave you the contact of the bank where my father deposited the money for your to contact them on my behalf for the transfer of my late father’s money in their bank to your country for investment.the bank director toldme that he have contacted you twice but you still don’t accept to have heard from him.Why ? if you are really serious and sincerely about what you said in your mail i will suggest you send me your number so that i can call you for voice discussions.or you call me with this number 0025509001632.i am waiting your mail or your number.  
> Regards  
> Kingsley Gongolar.

. . . and don’t know what to do next. . .

Tripler  
Thanks!!

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**Author:** ![Rick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9f8e36/32.png) [@Rick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2007, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woo-i-got-me-my-own-african-money-scam-e-mail/386114/55 "2007-01-20T00:03:30Z")

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[QUOTE=Tripler]  
**HOT**!

**Chowder** , check your e-mail. I just got this:

. . . and don’t know what to do next. . .

Tripler  
Thanks!!  
[/QUOTE]

Cut and paste all of your responses to the “banker” into a reply\*. Beg that he not drop you insist that you are sincere. Assure him that it must be a problem with the internet. Add some technobabble about packets or whatever.  
After he accepts you back, then you can start to play him.

- Make up three or four if you have to

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2007, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woo-i-got-me-my-own-african-money-scam-e-mail/386114/56 "2007-01-20T00:38:04Z")

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And you’re not the only person getting them, although others are not _getting it._

[http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070118/NEWS06/701180305](http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070118/NEWS06/701180305)

> [@](#):
>
> The longtime treasurer of Alcona County was accused Wednesday in an embezzlement scheme in which he may have served as both perpetrator and victim, sending up to $1.25 million in county funds and his own life savings to con artists after falling for one of the notorious online Nigerian banking frauds.
> 
> * * *
> 
> Katona had been treasurer for Alcona County, along Lake Huron in the northern Lower Peninsula, for 13 years. He was relieved of his job in late November, after the alleged fraud was uncovered.
> 
> The county, with only about 11,000 residents, is the third least-populous in the Lower Peninsula. The county government has a total budget of only about $4 million.
> 
> * * *
> 
> "Every part of this makes you wonder, ‘What was he thinking?’ " Frendeway said
> 
> * * *
> 
> “This is a tremendous blow to a small community where we trust our politicians,” she said.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2007, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woo-i-got-me-my-own-african-money-scam-e-mail/386114/57 "2007-01-20T03:03:08Z")

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A city money manager in a Michigan city sent 186 thou to Africa to help the munincipality make a lot of money. Idiot. Lost his or her job too.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2007, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woo-i-got-me-my-own-african-money-scam-e-mail/386114/58 "2007-01-20T03:02:10Z")

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A city money manager in a Michigan city sent 186 thou to Africa to help the munincipality make a lot of money. Idiot. Lost his or her job too.

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**Author:** ![chowder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@chowder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chowder)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2007, 8:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woo-i-got-me-my-own-african-money-scam-e-mail/386114/59 "2007-01-20T08:16:39Z")

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[QUOTE=Tripler]  
**HOT**!

**Chowder** , check your e-mail. I just got this:

. . . and don’t know what to do next. . .

Tripler  
Thanks!!  
[/QUOTE]

Tell him that you’ve e-mailed the bank and that it is they who are dragging their feet. Tell him also that you object to his tone of voice, demand an apology IMMEDIATELY or tell him to forget the whole thing.

You could send him a dummied up picture, use photoshop, which will or should portray you as a man of means and substance.

You could stall him by saying that because of winter conditions all phone lines for miles are down, insist that for a speedy end to the transfer he let you have a list of modalities (they love that word) ask if any payment is required to effect a quick transfer.

In short, just play it by ear because you have all to gain and sod all to lose

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**Author:** ![Tripler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripler/32/21807_2.png) [@Tripler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tripler)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2007, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woo-i-got-me-my-own-african-money-scam-e-mail/386114/60 "2007-01-20T23:40:15Z")

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Done:

> [@](#):
>
> Mr Gongolar,
> 
> As I have indicated to you repeatedly (and included you in the e-mail), I have e-mailed Mr Duncanbaly repeatedly, and it is the bank that has not responded. The tone of your e-mail suggests that you are calling me a liar, when in fact, I have been honest with you from the beginning. I demand an apology, and demand to know why the bank is lying to you as well. Otherwise, I will simply walk away from the deal.
> 
> As I have mentioned earlier, I do not have a phone from which to call you being that I travel so much, and am rarely at home. (See attached picture of my last deployment). I am planning on leaving shortly for another deployment, and want to move things along quickly. Have the bank send me a list of modalities, and find out if there are any fees which need to be paid, or if I can pay for a faster execution.
> 
> Thank you,  
> SGT Tripler

I also attached a stock picture of some dude in front of an ice cap. It was on “my last deployment”.

Tripler  
List of modalities. . . tee hee!

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