# Woo! Trailer for ROTK:EE looks great! (spoilers, probably) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 29, 2004, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woo-trailer-for-rotk-ee-looks-great-spoilers-probably/277229 "2004-11-29T22:41:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Balduran](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/cc9497/32.png) [@Balduran](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balduran)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2004, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woo-trailer-for-rotk-ee-looks-great-spoilers-probably/277229/21 "2004-12-01T13:21:12Z")
Are you guys talking about those movies that are kind of like Harry Potter but the wizards aren’t as cool? ---
**Author:** ![Trunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/87869e/32.png) [@Trunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trunk)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2004, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woo-trailer-for-rotk-ee-looks-great-spoilers-probably/277229/22 "2004-12-01T14:15:53Z")
> [@Balduran](#): > > Are you guys talking about those movies that are kind of like Harry Potter but the wizards aren’t as cool? They’re talking about those movies with more midgets than “Under the Rainbow” but aren’t as funny. ---
**Author:** ![dogbutler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dogbutler/32/428_2.png) [@dogbutler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dogbutler)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2004, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woo-trailer-for-rotk-ee-looks-great-spoilers-probably/277229/23 "2004-12-01T17:23:06Z")
> [@Balduran](#): > > Are you guys talking about those movies that are kind of like Harry Potter but the wizards aren’t as cool? Gandalf not as cool? Blasphemer! :hurls Narsil shard at **Balduran** : ---
**Author:** ![Balduran](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/cc9497/32.png) [@Balduran](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balduran)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2004, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woo-trailer-for-rotk-ee-looks-great-spoilers-probably/277229/24 "2004-12-01T17:36:53Z")
> [@dogbutler](#): > > Gandalf not as cool? > > Blasphemer! > > :hurls Narsil shard at **Balduran** : If Gandalf put on the sorting hat, they’d have to make up a new house called “lamer” to find somewhere for him to go. And Narsil? Feh! What about that cool sword Harry pulled out of the hat to kill the snakey thing in the second movie? ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2004, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woo-trailer-for-rotk-ee-looks-great-spoilers-probably/277229/25 "2004-12-01T17:50:22Z")
“Lamer”? The dude’s two steps below God Almighty. Literally. Fortunately, I’m pretty sure that **Balduran** is joking. ---
**Author:** ![Loopydude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e56c9b/32.png) [@Loopydude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopydude)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2004, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woo-trailer-for-rotk-ee-looks-great-spoilers-probably/277229/26 "2004-12-01T18:07:35Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > Yeah, and introducing whole new plot points and meaningless diversions really did a _WHOLE_ lot to shorten the length of the films. :mad: :mad: :mad: Don’t. Get. Me. _Started_. :mad: ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2004, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woo-trailer-for-rotk-ee-looks-great-spoilers-probably/277229/27 "2004-12-01T18:30:33Z")
> [@Tracy Lord](#): > > The shortest book, sure, but certainly not the shortest of the three movies. I’m with **Yookeroo** – knowing Mr. Jackson’s sense of humor, I’m inclined to think that he’s joking. Thank you. I thought PJ was clearly calling the 3rd movie too short which would obviously be a joke. ---
**Author:** ![teela\_brown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d9b06d/32.png) [@teela\_brown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/teela_brown)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2004, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woo-trailer-for-rotk-ee-looks-great-spoilers-probably/277229/28 "2004-12-01T23:41:19Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > Possibly the only thing still missing would be those sentient statues at Cirith Ungol – the bird-like things that screamed when Frodo & Sam went by. (am I remembering this right…?) Would’ve loved to have seen that. Well, **jsc1953** , we got a glimpse of the Two Watchers in the theatrical version of ROTK, so I wouldn’t give up hope that we might see a bit more of them. The entire Tower of Cirith Ungol sequence felt very rushed, as though it had been snipped down from something longer. Here’s hoping! ---
**Author:** ![Scissorjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Scissorjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scissorjack)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2004, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woo-trailer-for-rotk-ee-looks-great-spoilers-probably/277229/29 "2004-12-01T23:52:20Z")
I want more Saruman badness! Hopefully they’ve included the face-off between Gandalf and Saruman at Orthanc, where Gandalf kicks arse and takes names: that was the scene I missed the most in TTT and ROTK - after being such a major villain, Saruman doesn’t even get a last scene: Treebeard locks him in the tower, and that’s it. MORE SARUMAN! Of course, I’d like to have seen The Scouring Of The Shire, too, but that would have addded at least another hour to the movie. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2004, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woo-trailer-for-rotk-ee-looks-great-spoilers-probably/277229/30 "2004-12-01T23:54:16Z")
> [@Case Sensitive](#): > > I want more Saruman badness! Hopefully they’ve included the face-off between Gandalf and Saruman at Orthanc, where Gandalf kicks arse and takes names: that was the scene I missed the most in TTT and ROTK - after being such a major villain, Saruman doesn’t even get a last scene: Treebeard locks him in the tower, and that’s it. MORE SARUMAN! Christopher Lee did promise some goodness, and they showed a little of the scene. I’m really looking forward to that. ---
**Author:** ![Balduran](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/cc9497/32.png) [@Balduran](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balduran)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2004, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woo-trailer-for-rotk-ee-looks-great-spoilers-probably/277229/31 "2004-12-02T00:03:39Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > “Lamer”? The dude’s two steps below God Almighty. Literally. Fortunately, I’m pretty sure that **Balduran** is joking. Yeah just yukking it up. I own all three movies on DVD (in fullscreen :gasp!). I do like the image of the lamer house though. Kind of like lambda lambda lambda house in revenge of the nerds. ---
**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2004, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woo-trailer-for-rotk-ee-looks-great-spoilers-probably/277229/32 "2004-12-02T00:12:25Z")
Weirdly enough, I was delighted to find that the Mouth of Sauron was in the ROTK video game, presumably modeled after the deleted scene. Of course, Aragorn did have to best him in single combat, for some reason… ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2004, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woo-trailer-for-rotk-ee-looks-great-spoilers-probably/277229/33 "2004-12-02T00:26:52Z")
I suppose footage based on the appendices describing the invasion of the Wainriders and the ride of Eorl the Young into Calenardhon is not to be expected? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Plastic\_Ninja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f07891/32.png) [@Little\_Plastic\_Ninja](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Plastic_Ninja)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2004, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woo-trailer-for-rotk-ee-looks-great-spoilers-probably/277229/34 "2004-12-02T01:22:08Z")
Likely neither is the brief stay of Aragorn and his avenging zombie army in Calembel. I just like imagining him camping out there and scaring holy hell out of the locals. 😃 I’d like to see the Denethor Goes Completely Loopy Because Of The Palantir scene. I really hope they filmed it. Without it, Denethor just looks like this crazy mean loopy son-hating bastard. Not that there’s anything wrong with that… ---
**Author:** ![Antigen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/848f3c/32.png) [@Antigen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antigen)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2004, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woo-trailer-for-rotk-ee-looks-great-spoilers-probably/277229/35 "2004-12-02T01:38:27Z")
I’m seriously considering purchasing a portable DVD player so that I can rip the movie from its box and begin watching it immediately after paying for it. I have microbiology exam on the 14th at 9am… think they’ll mind if I watch the movie as I write the exam? I’ll use headphones! ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2004, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woo-trailer-for-rotk-ee-looks-great-spoilers-probably/277229/36 "2004-12-02T01:38:45Z")
> [@Little Plastic Ninja](#): > > I’d like to see the Denethor Goes Completely Loopy Because Of The Palantir scene. I really hope they filmed it. Without it, Denethor just looks like this crazy mean loopy son-hating bastard. I understand there’s a lot more on Denethor’s character development in EE, and he’s portrayed more as a mighty leader who despaired. That’s what I heard, anyway. We’ll see. ---
**Author:** ![Loopydude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e56c9b/32.png) [@Loopydude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopydude)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2004, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woo-trailer-for-rotk-ee-looks-great-spoilers-probably/277229/37 "2004-12-02T01:53:18Z")
> [@Qadgop the Mercotan](#): > > I suppose footage based on the appendices describing the invasion of the Wainriders and the ride of Eorl the Young into Calenardhon is not to be expected? If somebody bets you large amounts of money that it will, I’d say take 'em on ten-to-one and start planning retirement. ---
**Author:** ![Kilvert\_s\_Pagan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/c37758/32.png) [@Kilvert\_s\_Pagan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kilvert_s_Pagan)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2004, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woo-trailer-for-rotk-ee-looks-great-spoilers-probably/277229/38 "2004-12-02T02:21:21Z")
> [@Qadgop the Mercotan](#): > > I suppose footage based on the appendices describing the invasion of the Wainriders and the ride of Eorl the Young into Calenardhon is not to be expected? Nor would i expect Sam and/or Legolas and Gimli going over the water. > [@Case Sensitive](#): > > Of course, I’d like to have seen The Scouring Of The Shire, too, but that would have addded at least another hour to the movie. Jackson never even attempted to film it. He never liked it in the first place, in spite of JRRT’s emphasis upon its importance to the overall story. ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2004, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woo-trailer-for-rotk-ee-looks-great-spoilers-probably/277229/39 "2004-12-02T02:51:20Z")
> [@Qadgop the Mercotan](#): > > My family understands that they don’t interfere with me and JRRT. Mrs. Mercotan got a stern lesson in _that_ over 25 years ago. We were shopping for Xmas presents, and I found a book on the discount table: “Pictures by JRRT”. I was about to buy it, when she chastised me for purchasing it for myself, and said I should wait to be given it for Xmas. So I put it back and did without. > > Of course, Xmas came and went, and **NO BOOK**! It had gone out of print, and was no longer to be found, despite me haunting used book stores, and querying thru out of print book services. I did not actually get my own copy for over 20 years, when they re-published it. It was actually Mrs. Mercotan who spotted it, and gave it to me, as she’d felt the terrible burden of guilt over the decades. You stayed married to her for 20 years after that? Amazing. ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2004, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woo-trailer-for-rotk-ee-looks-great-spoilers-probably/277229/40 "2004-12-02T03:20:38Z")
> [@Wile E](#): > > You stayed married to her for 20 years after that? Amazing. Hey, she took the trouble to learn the Angerthas Moria alphabet so she could read the notes I passed to her in high school. Any gal who takes the time to not only translate naughty date plans from the runic, but also is ready to implement them, is a keeper! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woo-trailer-for-rotk-ee-looks-great-spoilers-probably/277229.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woo-trailer-for-rotk-ee-looks-great-spoilers-probably/277229.md?page=3)