# Woody Allen Is A Scumbag (rant) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 29, 2003, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woody-allen-is-a-scumbag-rant/204489 "2003-09-29T15:35:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 22
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woody-allen-is-a-scumbag-rant/204489/421 "2020-03-12T03:07:35Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > Let me quote Stephen King more fully (from the [Wiki cite](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apropos_of_Nothing) in the other thread): "_The Hachette decision to drop the Woody Allen book makes me very uneasy. It’s not him; I don’t give a damn about Mr Allen. It’s who gets muzzled next that worries me… If you think he’s a paedophile, don’t buy the book. Don’t go to his movies. Don’t go listen to him play jazz at the Carlyle Hotel. Vote with your wallet … In America, that’s how we do it._ Maybe it was as much a financial decision not to publish as it was a moral one. Maybe a secondary factor was Hachette not wanting to lose money on a book few people would buy. ---
**Author:** ![EmilyG](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/emilyg/32/364_2.png) [@EmilyG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EmilyG)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woody-allen-is-a-scumbag-rant/204489/422 "2020-03-12T04:08:12Z")
Woody Allen makes a lot more money, playing the clarinet a lot worse, than many struggling musicians out there. And yet people go to listen to him not because they like his clarinet playing, but because he’s Woody Allen. Though the scumbag thing is worse. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woody-allen-is-a-scumbag-rant/204489/423 "2020-03-12T04:50:55Z")
> [@Rilchiam](#): > > Maybe it was as much a financial decision not to publish as it was a moral one. Maybe a secondary factor was Hachette not wanting to lose money on a book few people would buy. Why would few people buy it? His movies and his relatively few books have usually attracted mass audiences and critical acclaim, along with the usual detractors. I’m sure that Hachette did a careful profit/loss projection. What caused the cancellation was the revolt among the staffers, which I’m sure figured in the calculations (the potential of a general strike is not exactly profitable for any company). I’m happy to inform the Woody Allen haters that there are still civilized countries out there and that the book will likely still be published worldwide: > **[Woody Allen memoir may still go ahead in France, despite controversy](https://www.theguardian.com/books/2020/mar/09/woody-allen-memoir-apropos-of-nothing-hachette-us-publisher-editions-stock-france)** > > The film director’s book Apropos of Nothing was dropped by its US publisher after staff walkouts, but the French publisher says ‘Allen is not Roman Polanski’ ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woody-allen-is-a-scumbag-rant/204489/424 "2020-03-12T11:21:30Z")
Yeah, we [already knew](https://www.moroccoworldnews.com/2020/03/295285/cesar-awards-a-step-in-the-wrong-direction/)France has no problem with celebrating rapist film directors, actually. One more is just par for the course. That you think that somehow makes them more “civilized” is amusing. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woody-allen-is-a-scumbag-rant/204489/425 "2020-03-12T11:53:34Z")
How much of that article did you actually read? Merely getting as far the subheadline would have informed you that the publisher’s statement was that “Allen is not Roman Polanski”. My whole point in the two threads in which these things are being discussed is that there are some among us who are unable to make such distinctions. I would expect as much from someone who is unable to distinguish a good film from a shitty one. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woody-allen-is-a-scumbag-rant/204489/426 "2020-03-12T12:24:12Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > How much of that article did you actually read? Merely getting as far the subheadline would have informed you that the publisher’s statement was that “Allen is not Roman Polanski”. You fail to provide the slightest inkling why I should give a fuck what the _publisher_ thinks. But fuck you very muchly for insinuating I didn’t read the article, all the same. > [@](#): > > I would expect as much from someone who is unable to distinguish a good film from a shitty one. Like your mom couldn’t distinguish between a good john and a syphylitic one? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woody-allen-is-a-scumbag-rant/204489/427 "2020-03-12T13:30:30Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > …I hated Clint Eastwood after his ridiculous appearance at the Republican National Convention in support of GWB… FWIW, it was in support of Mitt Romney: [2012 Republican National Convention - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Republican_National_Convention#Thursday,_August_30:_Eastwood,_Rubio_and_Romney) ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woody-allen-is-a-scumbag-rant/204489/428 "2020-03-12T13:43:35Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > FWIW, it was in support of Mitt Romney: [2012 Republican National Convention - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Republican_National_Convention#Thursday,_August_30:_Eastwood,_Rubio_and_Romney) Thank you. My aged memory is failing me. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woody-allen-is-a-scumbag-rant/204489/429 "2020-03-12T15:11:17Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > Like your mom couldn’t distinguish between a good john and a syphylitic one? Please, let’s show some respect for sex workers. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woody-allen-is-a-scumbag-rant/204489/430 "2020-03-12T15:19:08Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > Please, let’s show some respect for sex workers. Are you saying his mom was just an unpaid amateur? Fair enough. Although then I’d be slutshaming. Mmm, I guess “Your mum” comebacks are pretty much all out the window nowadays. Oh, well, no real loss … **wolfpup** , _you’re_ a poseur shitstain. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woody-allen-is-a-scumbag-rant/204489/431 "2020-03-12T18:34:39Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > Yeah, we [already knew](https://www.moroccoworldnews.com/2020/03/295285/cesar-awards-a-step-in-the-wrong-direction/)France has no problem with celebrating rapist film directors, actually. There’s also been a wee problem with [French tolerance of pedophilia](https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/12/world/europe/gabriel-matzneff-pedophilia-charge.html). Not that I think there’s convincing evidence against Allen, or that his autobiography should be suppressed. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woody-allen-is-a-scumbag-rant/204489.md?page=21)