# Woody Allen Is A Scumbag (rant) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 29, 2003, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woody-allen-is-a-scumbag-rant/204489 "2003-09-29T15:35:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2003, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woody-allen-is-a-scumbag-rant/204489/41 "2003-09-29T20:32:39Z")
> [@](#): > > While I have not seen “all his movies” I have read up on some just for the highlights of knowledge. (This was before I became active in adoption issues) His movies are sex-obsessed and neurotic. His new movie with Jason Biggs & > Christina Rici portrays a girlfriend who can only have sex with other guys. She is a total basketcase. The plot for “Manhattan” was an indication of his what he was really about, since he, as a teacher, started diddling with an underage student Others, such as Crimes and Misdemeanors present complex moral dilemmas. I like the evidence you have against him here. The bastard makes movies about “complex moral dilemnas”?! I say that’s a clear sign of in-fucking-sanity. We should string him up from his balls. ---
**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2003, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woody-allen-is-a-scumbag-rant/204489/42 "2003-09-29T20:41:44Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by wring \* > \*\*what about having an affair w/your mother’s lover? > > your sister’s father? > or is scumitis only one way? \*\* Excellent point. ---
**Author:** ![Ilsa\_Lund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a6a055/32.png) [@Ilsa\_Lund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ilsa_Lund)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2003, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woody-allen-is-a-scumbag-rant/204489/43 "2003-09-29T20:42:40Z")
> [@](#): > > Ingrid Bergman is a big ol’ ho-bag! [SIZE=4]YOU F\*%^_E%_#G BA&$(@RD!!! [/QUOTE] 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Ilsa\_Lund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a6a055/32.png) [@Ilsa\_Lund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ilsa_Lund)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2003, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woody-allen-is-a-scumbag-rant/204489/44 "2003-09-29T20:44:01Z")
Oh, jesus christ. I will write ‘Use Preview’ 100 times. [/SIZE] ---
**Author:** ![carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9de0a6/32.png) [@carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrot)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2003, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woody-allen-is-a-scumbag-rant/204489/45 "2003-09-29T20:44:41Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by pepperlandgirl \* > \*\*I like the evidence you have against him here. The bastard makes movies about “complex moral dilemnas”?! I say that’s a clear sign of in-fucking-sanity. We should string him up from his balls. \*\* I think we should be able to extend this to all kinds of directors. Jerry Bruckheimer, your day will come. Oh, yes. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2003, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woody-allen-is-a-scumbag-rant/204489/46 "2003-09-29T20:46:09Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Captain Amazing \* > \*\*My biggest problem with that administration was the way they made the Secretary of the Interior the Fall-guy. 🙂 \*\* Lee Majors was Warren G. Harding’s Secretary of the Interior? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![sailor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a587f6/32.png) [@sailor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sailor)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2003, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woody-allen-is-a-scumbag-rant/204489/47 "2003-09-29T20:50:01Z")
\>\> I have not seen “all his movies” Did you see “Honey, I fucked the kids?” \>\> he was granted the PRIVILEDGE of adopting another child What kind of a ledge is that? Or do you mean “privilege”? ---
**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2003, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woody-allen-is-a-scumbag-rant/204489/48 "2003-09-29T20:58:17Z")
If we’re doing outdated Hollywood rants: How about that Fatty Arbuckle dude…now THERE was a scumbag. Yes, the situation with Woody and Soon-Li gave my WTF-meter a huge reading back then. But there’s all sorts of weird in this world, and it does seem to be a fairly stable relationship, and as has been pointed out, they were within their legal rights to take up together…so, hey, who gives a toss? Let 'em get on with their lives. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2003, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woody-allen-is-a-scumbag-rant/204489/49 "2003-09-29T21:18:26Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Isabelle \* > \*\*No I think it IS technically incest! \*\* I know; I was misinterpreting you on purpose in hopes your head would explode in frustration. Now THAT would be entertaining! ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2003, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woody-allen-is-a-scumbag-rant/204489/50 "2003-09-29T21:39:09Z")
I found another scumbag! Genesis 19 v 30-36: Lot fathers children by his two daughters. Eeeew. (I don’t know who is to blame - the daughters, who got their father drunk, or God, who had killed all the available men in the area. And these children went on to found two major tribes.) Next up: Abraham marries the daughter of his father… ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2003, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woody-allen-is-a-scumbag-rant/204489/51 "2003-09-29T22:07:24Z")
Wait, so Mia was turned into a pillar of salt? ---
**Author:** ![Ilsa\_Lund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a6a055/32.png) [@Ilsa\_Lund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ilsa_Lund)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2003, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woody-allen-is-a-scumbag-rant/204489/52 "2003-09-29T22:28:03Z")
> [@](#): > > How about that Fatty Arbuckle dude…now THERE was a scumbag. He was majorly framed by a syphilitic prostitute. ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2003, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woody-allen-is-a-scumbag-rant/204489/53 "2003-09-29T22:50:00Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Ilsa\_Lund \* > \*\*He(Fatty Arbuckle) was majorly framed by a syphilitic prostitute. \*\* (added name of “he”) Oh, **Eve** - white courtesy phone, paging **Eve** to the white courtesy phone! ---
**Author:** ![Sublight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Sublight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sublight)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2003, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woody-allen-is-a-scumbag-rant/204489/54 "2003-09-30T02:59:26Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by bri1600bv \* > \*\*“Woody Allen is a perfect representation of Democratic ‘family values’.” > > - paraphrasing Newt Gingrich > \*\* Quoting Newt on family values? I’m getting whooshed here, right? ---
**Author:** ![kung\_fu\_lola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f4b2a3/32.png) [@kung\_fu\_lola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kung_fu_lola)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2003, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woody-allen-is-a-scumbag-rant/204489/55 "2003-09-30T03:57:25Z")
I’m with **autz**. As for “one-way scumitis”, I think there is a big difference in intellect between Woody Allen and a girl my age. She was pretty easily led. I know lots of SDMBers get their jollies by jumping on “technicalities”, because it is so easy to be right that way, but life doesn’t work by technicalities. In the real world, no one cares if fucking your wife’s daughter is “technically incest” or not. It hurts people, no matter what it technically is or isn’t. And as my biology prof said; “Pain is a way of telling you that something is WRONG.” ---
**Author:** ![aaslatten](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f14d63/32.png) [@aaslatten](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aaslatten)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2003, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woody-allen-is-a-scumbag-rant/204489/56 "2003-09-30T04:17:38Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by bri1600bv \* > \*\*"Woody Allen is part of the liberal intelligensia and so will not be prosecuted for anything. > > [http://www.townhall.com/columnists/michellemalkin/mm20030924.shtml](http://www.townhall.com/columnists/michellemalkin/mm20030924.shtml) \*\* Oh, puhleeze. Roman Polanski can’t come back to the U.S. because he will be prosecuted if he does. Sure, he’s managed to escape and live a pretty nice life in France, but I don’t think he’s benefitting from the vast left-wing molester conspiracy. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2003, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woody-allen-is-a-scumbag-rant/204489/57 "2003-09-30T06:57:02Z")
You can say Woody is a scumbag. I’ll say it with ya. I have long felt that any woman who has to kiss him on-screen should get an automatic Oscar nomination. And Woody hasn’t made a good movie since the '70’s. But about the ‘fondling’ thing with adopted daughter Dylan: I have a problem with this. My problem is that Mia screamed about it only after Woody dumped her for another of her adopted daughters (creepy as all get-out, but not illegal). Before that, was she OK with it? Did she think it was just Woody being an affectionate dad? When, exactly, did she decide that his fondling was ‘inappropriate’? So, either a) she was accepting of molestation so long as Woody was ‘hers’, or b) she only decided it was inappropriate AFTER she was dumped, or c) she made the whole thing up. IMO, they are both scumbags. ---
**Author:** ![Sublight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Sublight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sublight)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2003, 7:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woody-allen-is-a-scumbag-rant/204489/58 "2003-09-30T07:29:10Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by kung fu lola \* > \*\*I know lots of SDMBers get their jollies by jumping on “technicalities”, because it is so easy to be right that way, but life doesn’t work by technicalities. In the real world, no one cares if fucking your wife’s daughter is “technically incest” or not. It hurts people, no matter what it technically is or isn’t. And as my biology prof said; “Pain is a way of telling you that something is WRONG.” \*\* It just might be hurting people, but the only important question in my mind is, are the two people involved in the “incestuous” relationship being hurt? If not, then I don’t really feel that what anyone else thinks about it matters. Soon-Yi, by the way, will be 33 years old next week, so I think she’s old enough to making up her own mind about what goes on between her and Woody. ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2003, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woody-allen-is-a-scumbag-rant/204489/59 "2003-09-30T12:02:35Z")
Some clarifications: Mia had Woody talk to Dylan’s shrink about his inappropriate behavior with Dylan two years before the custody battle. Other people had pointed it out to her. Everyone agreed it was creepy. He was putting his thumb in the girl’s mouth when she was six years old, and wouldn’t Freudians have a field day with that? Soon-Yi’s age and date of birth are unclear. She was left at a Korean orphanage. She was in high school and around 17 at the time of the affair with Woody. When did Mia parade her children in front of the media with possibly couched stories? She shielded them from the media during the whole event. After the children found out about Woody and \* their sister \*, they didn’t want anything to do with Woody. Remember, all the children had Mia for a mother, whether it was natural or by adoption. ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2003, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woody-allen-is-a-scumbag-rant/204489/60 "2003-09-30T12:23:45Z")
Soon-Yi…? Next time you set your alarm clock for 1997, make sure its plugged in. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woody-allen-is-a-scumbag-rant/204489.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woody-allen-is-a-scumbag-rant/204489.md?page=4)