# Woody Allen/Soon Yi--Creepy? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 16, 2009, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woody-allen-soon-yi-creepy/493302 "2009-04-16T17:03:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2009, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woody-allen-soon-yi-creepy/493302/61 "2009-04-17T14:50:25Z")
> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#): > > The very best case for Woody here is that he was dating the 17 year old daughter of his girlfriend without the girlfriend knowing. A common pron trope, but still icky. He was _fucking_ and taking nude photos of his girlfriend’s 17 year old daughter, who was also the sister of his three children. Icky to the nth degree. ---
**Author:** ![NoCoolUserName](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5fc32e/32.png) [@NoCoolUserName](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NoCoolUserName)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2009, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woody-allen-soon-yi-creepy/493302/62 "2009-04-17T15:31:37Z")
> [@Springtime\_for\_Spacers](#): > > Hepatitis C \*is \*curable both in children and adults. [This article](http://www.hepctrust.org.uk/Resources/HepC/Migrated%20Resources/Documents/Other/265_Hepatitis%20C%20in%20children%20-HCV%20Advocate%20update%202006.pdf) discusses the current situation with regard to Hep C in children. Glad to hear it. My point remains that special needs kids in particular have a much lower chance of being adopted, and many of them never are. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2009, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woody-allen-soon-yi-creepy/493302/63 "2009-04-17T15:56:38Z")
> [@](#): > > RE telling the older children: I’m certain I would immediately want to find out whether any of my other kids had been approached sexually by this man. Soon-yi was only 17, and Mia had no way to know how long this had been going on. I might wait and consult a child psychiatrist about the best way to ask the younger kids, but I’d talk to any teens or adults immediately, and try to find out if anyone else had been hurt, or had known about this. Actually at the point Farrow found out about the affair, Soon Yi was 22. It was later revealed that the affair had been going on for several years. ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2009, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woody-allen-soon-yi-creepy/493302/64 "2009-04-17T16:01:19Z")
> [@TruCelt](#): > > RE telling the older children: I’m certain I would immediately want to find out whether any of my other kids had been approached sexually by this man. Soon-yi was only 17, and Mia had no way to know how long this had been going on. I might wait and consult a child psychiatrist about the best way to ask the younger kids, but I’d talk to any teens or adults immediately, and try to find out if anyone else had been hurt, or had known about this. Which is exactly what Mia did. I think that hiding the affair was the worse part. I do have to wonder how Woody & Soon-Yi’s two adopted daughters will turn out. ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2009, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woody-allen-soon-yi-creepy/493302/65 "2009-04-17T16:16:26Z")
By Googling a bit, I found out that [Lark Previn](http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2008/12/29/2008-12-29_mia_farrows_adopted_daughter_lark_dies.html), adopted daughter of Mia & Andre Previn, died last December 25th, apparently of AIDS-complications. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2009, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woody-allen-soon-yi-creepy/493302/66 "2009-04-17T16:17:13Z")
Creepy, but not Michael Jackson creepy. ---
**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2009, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woody-allen-soon-yi-creepy/493302/67 "2009-04-17T16:27:38Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > Creepy, but not Michael Jackson creepy. That’s like calling something “Big, but not the entire universe big.” ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2009, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woody-allen-soon-yi-creepy/493302/68 "2009-04-17T17:21:52Z")
> [@42fish](#): > > That’s like calling something “Big, but not the entire universe big.” And your point? 😛 ---
**Author:** ![obfusciatrist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4af34b/32.png) [@obfusciatrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/obfusciatrist)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2009, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woody-allen-soon-yi-creepy/493302/69 "2009-04-17T18:43:55Z")
Certainly not something I’d ever do, but absent evidence that Soon Yi was somehow forced into the relationship I find I don’t really care. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Fight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90ced4/32.png) [@Cat\_Fight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Fight)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2009, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woody-allen-soon-yi-creepy/493302/70 "2009-04-17T19:23:50Z")
> [@Annie-Xmas](#): > > I think that hiding the affair was the worse part. I do have to wonder how Woody & Soon-Yi’s two adopted daughters will turn out. This is the creepy part. I mean… really? Adopting? _Really?_ ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2009, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woody-allen-soon-yi-creepy/493302/71 "2009-04-17T19:26:14Z")
> [@Cat\_Fight](#): > > This is the creepy part. I mean… really? Adopting? _Really?_ I don’t get it. Is this just sarcasm? (No, I myself am not being sarcastic, I’m just oblivious today!) ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2009, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woody-allen-soon-yi-creepy/493302/72 "2009-04-17T19:38:07Z")
The wife and I are big Woody Allen fans. The wife is possibly the only Thai Woody Allen fan in the kingdom. Soon-yi seemed rather normal in the documentary [Wild Man Blues](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0141986/), although possibly that’s not enough to judge. Still, they seem happy now, and we love his movies, so we’re not going to lose any sleep over it. He seemed to be trying to address the issue to a certain extent in _Bullets over Broadway_, when the Rob Reiner character kept harping on how “the artist creates his own moral universe.” ---
**Author:** ![Ellen\_Cherry](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellen_cherry/32/3600_2.png) [@Ellen\_Cherry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellen_Cherry)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2009, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woody-allen-soon-yi-creepy/493302/73 "2009-04-17T20:49:52Z")
> [@Freudian\_Slit](#): > > I don’t get it. Is this just sarcasm? (No, I myself am not being sarcastic, I’m just oblivious today!) I think the inference is that he had sex with an adopted child, and now he’s adopting children … more fodder. Bleeeegh. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2009, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woody-allen-soon-yi-creepy/493302/74 "2009-04-17T20:53:08Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > He seemed to be trying to address the issue to a certain extent in _Bullets over Broadway_, when the Rob Reiner character kept harping on how “the artist creates his own moral universe.” In the universe we live in, it’s creepy. Yes, Allen has made some very fine films, though his best work was a long time ago. He’s still a fucking creepy, family-wrecking asshole. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Fight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90ced4/32.png) [@Cat\_Fight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Fight)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2009, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woody-allen-soon-yi-creepy/493302/75 "2009-04-17T20:59:02Z")
> [@Ellen\_Cherry](#): > > I think the inference is that he had sex with an adopted child, and now he’s adopting children … more fodder. > > Bleeeegh. That’s the ticket. I suppose they’re past the point of caring about giving the impression of impropriety, but still… bad taste. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2009, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woody-allen-soon-yi-creepy/493302/76 "2009-04-18T01:39:21Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > Yes, Allen has made some very fine films, though his best work was a long time ago. It’s popular to say his best work was a long time ago, but the wife and I always disagree. Just this decade alone we have _Anything Else_, _Melinda and Melinda_, _Match Point_, all superior fare. We’ve not seen _Vicky Cristina Barcelona_ yet but have heard good things about it. And usually when people say “a long time ago,” they’re thinking of 1970s-1980s. But two our favorites are _Mighty Aphrodite_ (1995) and _Sweet and Lowdown_ (1999), not to mention _Bullets over Broadway_ (1994). He’s still going strong, and even his misses are better than a lot of what goes into the cinemas. I meet really truly creepy guys fairly regularly over here. Admittedly, that may have raised my bar for what’s considered creepy. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2009, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woody-allen-soon-yi-creepy/493302/77 "2009-04-18T01:53:33Z")
> [@Ellen\_Cherry](#): > > I think the inference is that he had sex with an adopted child, and now he’s adopting children … more fodder. > > Bleeeegh. Who _approved_ the adoption? _shudder_ Weren’t there also allegations that he had molested his daughter Dylan? (Now called Malone?) The judge ruled that there was inconclusive evidence, but the relationship he had with her was pretty obsessive-and he tended to ignore the other kids. ---
**Author:** ![Walloon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/fbc32d/32.png) [@Walloon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walloon)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2009, 7:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woody-allen-soon-yi-creepy/493302/78 "2009-04-18T07:26:06Z")
> [@TJVM](#): > > I think so. He may not have been technically her stepfather, since they had an unconventional family, but he was definitely a father-figure to her during formative years, and was more or less like a husband to her mother. Woody and Mia never lived together, and he never spent even one night at her apartment (they met at hotel rooms for privacy). ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2009, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woody-allen-soon-yi-creepy/493302/79 "2009-04-18T12:25:58Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Who _approved_ the adoption? _shudder_ > > Weren’t there also allegations that he had molested his daughter Dylan? (Now called Malone?) The judge ruled that there was inconclusive evidence, but the relationship he had with her was pretty obsessive-and he tended to ignore the other kids. There was some very damaging evidence, but Woody denied it and once the judge denied him visitation with Dylan, stating an “inappropriate relationship” Mia dropped the issue. All she wanted was to have her daughter protected from Woody by the law. She wanted to have the legal and financial mess over. I do think that Mia made the right decisions over that issue. When she discovered Woody had disappeared with Dyland during his supervised visitation and Dylan told her of the abuse, she immediately took the child to her doctor, who by law had to report the allegations. Mia did not report it. She sought medical confirmation of the sexual abuse. All the screaming Woody did about adopted children being different from biological children during the trial–does that include his and Soon-Yi’s two adopted daughters? Are they his “real” daughters? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/woody-allen-soon-yi-creepy/493302.md?page=3)