# Wooly Bully lyrics - what's "L-seven"? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** music\ **Created:** [January 22, 2005, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wooly-bully-lyrics-whats-l-seven/286087 "2005-01-22T15:30:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![dontpanic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a9a28c/32.png) [@dontpanic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dontpanic)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2005, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wooly-bully-lyrics-whats-l-seven/286087/1 "2005-01-22T15:30:03Z")
In Sam the Sham & the Pharaohs’ great masterpiece, Wooly Bully, “Hatty told Matty, ‘Let’s don’t take no chance. Let’s not be L-seven, come and learn to dance.’” What’s L-seven? Google was fruitless; it’s time for the big guns. Panicking, dontpanic357 ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2005, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wooly-bully-lyrics-whats-l-seven/286087/2 "2005-01-22T15:35:50Z")
Real simple explanation, based in Fifties/Early Sixties slang: If you were “hopelessly out of it,” you were a _square_, which of course nobody wanted to be. Contemplate what L7 draws graphically, and you see the connection. ---
**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2005, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wooly-bully-lyrics-whats-l-seven/286087/3 "2005-01-22T15:35:51Z")
L7 =square, man Form an “L” with the first finger and thumb of your left hand, then complete the "square with a “7” formed by the first finger and thumb of your right hand, like so: L7 Now that you’re hip to the jive, get out there and dance, daddy-o. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2005, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wooly-bully-lyrics-whats-l-seven/286087/4 "2005-01-22T15:38:31Z")
If you draw an L and a 7, joined at the tips (and using a straight downstroke on the 7 instead of a diagonal), you have a square. (Kids used to jokingly do this with their hands, as well, using their thumbs and forefingers to make the L and 7 and joining them to produce a square. “Let’s not be square” * * * For further commentary, I’m going to shift this over to **Cafe Society**. ---
**Author:** ![cheddarsnax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@cheddarsnax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cheddarsnax)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2005, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wooly-bully-lyrics-whats-l-seven/286087/5 "2005-01-22T16:09:06Z")
I’ve been told that if you make an “L” with your left hand and a “7” with your right, and put them together, you get a square… ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2005, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wooly-bully-lyrics-whats-l-seven/286087/6 "2005-01-22T16:17:57Z")
I’ve heard the opposite is C-moon. A Capital C and a crescent moon make a circle, the opposite of square. C-moon is hip. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2005, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wooly-bully-lyrics-whats-l-seven/286087/7 "2005-01-22T17:16:24Z")
Man, you cats must have some deformed thumbs. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2005, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wooly-bully-lyrics-whats-l-seven/286087/8 "2005-01-22T18:26:13Z")
I get a rectangle and not a square. Maybe my thumbs are too short. ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2005, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wooly-bully-lyrics-whats-l-seven/286087/9 "2005-01-22T18:39:12Z")
Rick James’ second album was titled _Bustin’ Out of L Seven_ and there was also a punkish girl group in the 80s and 90s called L7. Nobody wants to be a square. Only the Lonely. ---
**Author:** ![dontpanic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a9a28c/32.png) [@dontpanic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dontpanic)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2005, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wooly-bully-lyrics-whats-l-seven/286087/10 "2005-01-22T18:58:37Z")
Thanks – you are a bunch of C-moon cats and kitties. I hope to someday overcome the heartbreak of L7 myself. Then everything will be, um, copacetic. Decidely less panicky… dontpanicL7 ---
**Author:** ![Babbalooey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e99b99/32.png) [@Babbalooey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babbalooey)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2021, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wooly-bully-lyrics-whats-l-seven/286087/11 "2021-05-06T19:30:22Z")
So basically, the line, Let’s not be L7 is a call to everyone to avoid being a square. And, yet, in later years, it was Huey Lewis and The News who said that, “It’s Hip To Be Square”. So who’s right ? ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2021, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wooly-bully-lyrics-whats-l-seven/286087/12 "2021-05-06T19:53:54Z")
Who’s right? [Allan Sherman.](https://www.lyrics.com/lyric/21022937/Allan+Sherman/The+Rebel) 😃 And the Rebel said to Rhonda, “This is terribly unfair. Being hip is getting middle class, Let’s you and I be square.” And they did, they squared it up. Rhonda got a haircut, The Rebel shaved his beard. They were married and had children, Which they subsequently reared. They moved out to the suburbs And they really disappeared. Wow, did they conform! ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2021, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wooly-bully-lyrics-whats-l-seven/286087/13 "2021-05-06T20:00:39Z")
Zombies are so L7. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2021, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wooly-bully-lyrics-whats-l-seven/286087/14 "2021-05-06T20:17:56Z")
> [@Babbalooey](#): > > t was Huey Lewis and The News who said that, “It’s Hip To Be Square”. So who’s right ? Huey WAS the kid deathly afraid to be L7. Then he grew up, and now he needs to convince himself he still is hip. Sorry, Huey, and furthermore, you’re just too darn loud. ---
**Author:** ![Babbalooey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e99b99/32.png) [@Babbalooey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babbalooey)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2021, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wooly-bully-lyrics-whats-l-seven/286087/15 "2021-05-06T20:28:46Z")
But Huey Lewis spoke to the pre-cyber generation. He is truly a carry-over of 50’s/60’s music wrapped in a modern-marketing bow !!!