# Word play, a la Will Shortz

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/word-play-a-la-will-shortz/443664>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [April 2, 2008, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/word-play-a-la-will-shortz/443664 "2008-04-02T12:49:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 9\
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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2008, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/word-play-a-la-will-shortz/443664/1 "2008-04-02T12:49:21Z")

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I’ve got a Will Shortz Puzzle-A-Day calendar, and yesterday’s stumped me. Here 'tis:

> [@Will Shortz](#):
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> If the word POND were an adjective, the comparative form would be PONDER. If EARN were an adjective, the superlative would be EARNEST. Think of a familiar four-letter word that can have either -ER or -EST added to the end to make a new word unrleated in meaning to the original. All three words are uncapitalized. Bouns hint" the original four-letter word is an informal term.

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2008, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/word-play-a-la-will-shortz/443664/2 "2008-04-02T13:12:57Z")

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Just to clarify, does it have both the -er and -est endings?

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2008, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/word-play-a-la-will-shortz/443664/3 "2008-04-02T13:22:08Z")

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Yes. XXXX is a word, XXXXER is a word, and XXXXEST is a word, with no two of those words related to any other.

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2008, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/word-play-a-la-will-shortz/443664/4 "2008-04-02T13:57:23Z")

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There are almost too many words ending in -er that have no relation to the word they might be a comparative to, like mother, proper, jumper, etc., but the difficulty (as I assume you have found) is getting -est words to do that to the same root. In fact, I’m having trouble with the -est thing altogether.

Here’s a joke reply: count. You have to misspell the -est part.

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**Author:** ![Sunshine\_and\_Smiles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Sunshine\_and\_Smiles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunshine_and_Smiles)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2008, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/word-play-a-la-will-shortz/443664/5 "2008-04-02T14:04:17Z")

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I was tempted (ha!) to say “temp” but then I realized that that really doesn’t count as a word on its own.

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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2008, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/word-play-a-la-will-shortz/443664/6 "2008-04-02T14:06:52Z")

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[QUOTE=Sunshine and Smiles]  
I was tempted (ha!) to say “temp” but then I realized that that really doesn’t count as a word on its own.  
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I’ll bet that’s it, since “temp” is indeed an informal term (to refer to a temporary employee).

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2008, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/word-play-a-la-will-shortz/443664/7 "2008-04-02T14:08:37Z")

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[QUOTE=Thudlow Boink]  
I’ll bet that’s it, since “temp” is indeed an informal term (to refer to a temporary employee).  
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Good point. It gets my vote.

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2008, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/word-play-a-la-will-shortz/443664/8 "2008-04-02T14:15:56Z")

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**Sunshine and Smiles** shoots – and scores!

Congrats, that was it!

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**Author:** ![Sunshine\_and\_Smiles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Sunshine\_and\_Smiles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunshine_and_Smiles)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2008, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/word-play-a-la-will-shortz/443664/9 "2008-04-02T14:17:31Z")

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[QUOTE=twickster]  
**Sunshine and Smiles** shoots – and scores!

Congrats, that was it!  
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Well, that’s a surprisingly satisfying way to start my day. Alright!
