# "Wordle," a strangely compelling word game (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** board-card-word-game\ **Created:** [December 24, 2021, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wordle-a-strangely-compelling-word-game-part-1/956604 "2021-12-24T21:12:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 483
**Author:** ![pjd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pjd/32/3009_2.png) [@pjd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pjd)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2023, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wordle-a-strangely-compelling-word-game-part-1/956604/9642 "2023-03-10T12:56:03Z")
Wordle 629 4/6\* ⬜🟩⬜🟨⬜ 🟩🟩⬜⬜⬜ 🟩🟩⬜🟩🟩 🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩 BEARD REMIT REPEL REVEL (is anyone else singing Rebel Rebel now ?) ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2023, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wordle-a-strangely-compelling-word-game-part-1/956604/9643 "2023-03-10T13:26:47Z")
Wordle 629 4/6 ⬜🟨⬜🟨⬜ 139 ⬜⬜⬜⬜🟨 26 🟩⬜🟨🟩⬜ 3 🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩 SLART OPINE =\> lemur, lever, lurer, ruler, rebel, revel, redly came to mind RULER =\> either REBEL or (seems like a more Wardly sort of word) REVEL Glad to get 4 today. > [@pjd](#): > > (is anyone else singing Rebel Rebel now ?) YES. It’ll be in my head until something else pushes it out. ETA: Should be spoilered! ---
**Author:** ![StGermain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stgermain/32/2868_2.png) [@StGermain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StGermain)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2023, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wordle-a-strangely-compelling-word-game-part-1/956604/9644 "2023-03-10T13:48:12Z")
Wordle 629 4/6\* ⬜🟨⬜⬜🟨 ⬜⬜🟨🟩🟨 ⬜🟨🟨🟩⬜ 🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩 CRATE SPREE FREER REVEL Daily Quordle 410 7️⃣8️⃣ 3️⃣5️⃣ > **[Quordle](https://www.quordle.com/)** > > Put your skills to the test and solve four words at once! You have 9 guesses to solve all four words. A new Quordle available each day to solve. ⬜⬜⬜⬜🟨 ⬜⬜⬜⬜⬜ ⬜🟨⬜⬜🟩 🟩🟨⬜🟨⬜ 🟨⬜⬜⬜🟩 ⬜⬜🟨⬜⬜ ⬜⬜⬜🟨⬜ ⬜⬜⬜⬜⬜ ⬜🟨⬜⬜⬜ ⬜⬜⬜⬜⬜ ⬜⬜⬜🟩⬜ 🟩🟩🟩🟩⬜ 🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩 ⬜⬜⬜🟩⬜ ⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛ 🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩 ⬜⬜🟨🟩⬜ ⬜⬜🟩🟨🟨 🟨⬜⬜⬜🟩 ⬜⬜⬜⬜⬜ 🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩 ⬜🟨⬜🟨⬜ ⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛ ⬜🟨⬜⬜🟨 ⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛ 🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩 ENJOY SPOOF NASTY DEALT ---
**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2023, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wordle-a-strangely-compelling-word-game-part-1/956604/9645 "2023-03-10T13:55:47Z")
I believe people have been requesting that Quordle answers be posted in another thread. I created one. [https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quordle-for-people-who-find-wordle-to-be-too-easy](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/quordle-for-people-who-find-wordle-to-be-too-easy) ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2023, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wordle-a-strangely-compelling-word-game-part-1/956604/9646 "2023-03-10T15:35:10Z")
Lucky to get this one in four, it would seem. Wordle 629 4/6 ⬜🟦⬜⬜🟦 ⬜⬜⬜⬜🟧 🟧🟧⬜🟧🟧 🟧🟧🟧🟧🟧 CRANE SPOIL - eliminated all other vowels except β€˜u’ and a couple of key consonants as it turns out REBEL - picked the wrong one of only two possible answers REVEL ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2023, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wordle-a-strangely-compelling-word-game-part-1/956604/9647 "2023-03-10T16:01:15Z")
A distinctly unsatisfying game, but I’m ok with a 4 today. Wordle 629 4/6\* β¬›πŸŸ¨β¬›β¬›πŸŸ¨ β¬›πŸŸ©πŸŸ¨β¬›β¬› πŸŸ©πŸŸ©β¬›πŸŸ¨β¬› 🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩 IRATE HERON REPLY REVEL I had also seen REBEL, but I decided to be one today and try the less likely word first. Turned out to be a good call. For a change. ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2023, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wordle-a-strangely-compelling-word-game-part-1/956604/9648 "2023-03-10T16:04:34Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > > [@pjd](#): > > > > (is anyone else singing Rebel Rebel now ?) > > YES. It’ll be in my head until something else pushes it out. Me too. Gee, thanks for the earthworm, @pjd. 😜 ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2023, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wordle-a-strangely-compelling-word-game-part-1/956604/9649 "2023-03-10T16:27:42Z")
Where did you get this list of EAROTLISNC? The general frequency of letters in English words, and here are two lists, ETAISONRLHDCUMGPYFBWKZVXJQ β€” general freqs EARIOTNSLCUDPMHGBFYWKVXZJQ β€” general freqs, … is different from the frequency of letters in English 5-letter words. As you pointed out. Thanks again, that is very helpful. From this source, > **[A Frequency Analysis on Wordle](https://towardsdatascience.com/a-frequency-analysis-on-wordle-9c5778283363)** > > Exploring letters frequencies to find the optimal first word … this is the revised frequency: **AESORILTNUDCYMPHBGKFWVZJXQ** (and not EAROTLISNC) This list can generate new starting words and I will start trying: AROSE β€” ILTNUDCYMPHBGKFWVZJXQ UNTIL β€” DCYMPHBGKFWVZJXQ CHIMP (1, I) β€” DYBGKFWVZJXQ (only 1 repeated letter, I) Comparing the two lists: EAROTLISNC, from @RTFirefly , and AESORILTNUDCYMPHBGKFWVZJXQ, … the S is in a very different position: 8th place in the first list and 3rd in the second. I found that to be interesting. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2023, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wordle-a-strangely-compelling-word-game-part-1/956604/9650 "2023-03-10T16:29:41Z")
It may have been from me. If so, I based my frequency counts on the answer list, not the entire guess list. (I don’t care at all about the guess list letter frequency.) EDIT: Also if so, I can double check to verify my counts. ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2023, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wordle-a-strangely-compelling-word-game-part-1/956604/9651 "2023-03-10T16:39:03Z")
Cool. If it’s handy can you complete the list and show all 26 letters? Only if it’s handy. ---
**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2023, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wordle-a-strangely-compelling-word-game-part-1/956604/9652 "2023-03-10T16:57:34Z")
Wordle 629 4/6 β¬›β¬›β¬›β¬›πŸŸ¦ πŸŸ¦β¬›β¬›πŸŸ§πŸŸ¦ πŸŸ§πŸŸ§β¬›πŸŸ§πŸŸ§ 🟧🟧🟧🟧🟧 ACUTE LONER REPEL REVEL Count me as another who saw REVEL first but didn’t put it down. Unlike many of you, though, I avoided REBEL, thinking (perhaps overthinking) that the civil war connotation might make it unsuitable. ---
**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2023, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wordle-a-strangely-compelling-word-game-part-1/956604/9653 "2023-03-10T17:05:13Z")
> **Wordle 629 4/6\* 3/10/2023** > > ⬜⬜🟨🟨🟨 > 🟩🟩⬜🟩🟩 > 🟩🟩⬜🟩🟩 > 🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩 > > WH_ERE_ β†’ OK, that limits the # of places where the E’s can go…Shift each over one? And I really need to hit on some consonants. R can go 1st, 3rd or 5th, let’s try leading off… > **RE** P **EL** β†’ Good guess with the L. Two more possibilities… > **RE** BEL\*\* β†’ Not that one, so it must be… > **REVEL** > > Alas, missed playing yesterday. Scoredle, still obsessed with repeat letters, said I should have tried REFER with the second guess. I think Scoredle really values getting green letters, so doubling up on guesses that came up yellow is part of its bag of tricks. Seems to me like an easy way to get to a trap situation with fewer letters guessed… ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2023, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wordle-a-strangely-compelling-word-game-part-1/956604/9654 "2023-03-10T19:53:30Z")
> [@Bullitt](#): > > Cool. If it’s handy can you complete the list and show all 26 letters? Only if it’s handy. Sure, here you go! EAROTLISNCUHPYDGMBFKWVXZJQ J and Q are actually tied for last place, at 7 appearances each. BTW, my frequency list is strictly from the answers of the Wordles **that have already been played** , up through #626 (HORSE). To each his or her own, but that’s all that I want to have information about, to preserve for myself the open-endedness of the game. So it may differ from the frequencies in the entire list of 2300+ solutions or from those of the list of nearly 15,000 words accepted as guesses. And apparently does. ---
**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2023, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wordle-a-strangely-compelling-word-game-part-1/956604/9655 "2023-03-10T23:28:27Z")
Wordle 629 5/6\* 🟨⬜⬜🟩🟨 ⬜🟨⬜🟩🟩 🟩🟩⬜🟩🟩 🟩🟩⬜🟩🟩 🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩 LATER CRUEL REBEL REPEL REVEL I saw 3 choices and decided to go alphabetically, REBEL REPEL REVEL. Bad choice! ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2023, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wordle-a-strangely-compelling-word-game-part-1/956604/9656 "2023-03-10T23:40:49Z")
Later, the cruel rebels repelled the revels.πŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2023, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wordle-a-strangely-compelling-word-game-part-1/956604/9657 "2023-03-10T23:56:52Z")
Wordle 629 4/6 ⬜⬜⬜🟨🟨 🟩⬜⬜🟩⬜ 🟩⬜⬜🟩⬜ 🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩 STARE RIDER RUMEN REVEL RUMEN might have been unlikely, but it did eliminate some crucial letters. ---
**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2023, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wordle-a-strangely-compelling-word-game-part-1/956604/9658 "2023-03-11T03:10:53Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > Later, the cruel rebels repelled the revels.πŸ˜ƒ LOL makes sense! ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2023, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wordle-a-strangely-compelling-word-game-part-1/956604/9659 "2023-03-11T04:14:36Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > > [@Bullitt](#): > > > > Cool. If it’s handy can you complete the list and show all 26 letters? Only if it’s handy. > > Sure, here you go! > > EAROTLISNCUHPYDGMBFKWVXZJQ > > J and Q are actually tied for last place, at 7 appearances each. > > BTW, my frequency list is strictly from the answers of the Wordles **that have already been played** , up through #626 (HORSE). To each his or her own, but that’s all that I want to have information about, to preserve for myself the open-endedness of the game. So it may differ from the frequencies in the entire list of 2300+ solutions or from those of the list of nearly 15,000 words accepted as guesses. And apparently does. Thanks! Okay so maybe I’ll try these… **EAROTLISNCUHPYDGMBFKWVXZJQ** AROSE β€” TLINCUHPYDGMBFKWVXZJQ UNTIL β€” CHPYDGMBFKWVXZJQ NYMPH (1, N) β€” CDGBFKWVXZJQ BADGE (2, A E) β€” CFKWVXZJQ FUCKS (2, S U) β€” WVXZJQ > **Summary** > > Oh, just kidding about that last one! 😜 ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2023, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wordle-a-strangely-compelling-word-game-part-1/956604/9660 "2023-03-11T05:04:34Z")
SAT MAR 11 Wordle 630 4/6\* πŸŸ¦πŸŸ¦β¬›β¬›πŸŸ¦ β¬›β¬›πŸŸ¦πŸŸ¦πŸŸ§ β¬›πŸŸ¦πŸŸ¦πŸŸ¦πŸŸ§ 🟧🟧🟧🟧🟧 ALONE STEAL CAMEL EMAIL Heh. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2023, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wordle-a-strangely-compelling-word-game-part-1/956604/9661 "2023-03-11T05:08:57Z")
Wordle 630 4/6 β¬›πŸŸ¨πŸŸ©β¬›β¬› β¬›β¬›πŸŸ©πŸŸ¨πŸŸ¨ πŸŸ¨πŸŸ¨πŸŸ©β¬›β¬› 🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩 PLANT SCALE LEAKY EMAIL Not a fan of email as an answer. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wordle-a-strangely-compelling-word-game-part-1/956604.md?page=482) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wordle-a-strangely-compelling-word-game-part-1/956604.md?page=484)