# "Wordle," a strangely compelling word game (Part 2)

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wordle-a-strangely-compelling-word-game-part-2/981659
**Category:** The Game Room
**Tags:** board-card-word-game
**Created:** [March 25, 2023, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wordle-a-strangely-compelling-word-game-part-2/981659 "2023-03-25T23:59:39Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)
#### Post date: [October 15, 2023, 8:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wordle-a-strangely-compelling-word-game-part-2/981659/3761 "2023-10-15T08:20:45Z")

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I almost lost this one.

Wordle 848 6/6

⬛🟨🟨🟨⬛  
⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛  
⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛  
🟩🟩⬛🟨⬛  
🟩🟩🟩⬛⬛  
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

**SALET**  
 **ROUND**  
 **CHIMP** — _could be algae blaze eagle fable flake gavel glaze leafy leaky leave legal_  
 **LEGAL** — _could be leafy leaky leave_  
 **LEAVE** — _could be leafy leaky_  
 **LEAKY** — _if I have been paying attention to which have already been used words, like @EllisDee was saying, I could have gotten this in 5, or maybe 4_

I don’t like my starting words. I want a set of four starting words that eliminate more letters. Ideally, 4 starting words would eliminate 20 letters. My 3 starting words eliminate 15 which is good, but after that there are a lot of duplicated letters in any 4th word.

Just ranting I guess.

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### Author: ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)
#### Post date: [October 15, 2023, 9:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wordle-a-strangely-compelling-word-game-part-2/981659/3762 "2023-10-15T09:49:42Z")

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Which six letters would you not check? JQVXZ seem like easy choices, but what would be sixth?

The main downside to four starting words is that you’re playing for a 5.

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### Author: ![pjd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pjd/32/3009_2.png) [@pjd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pjd)
#### Post date: [October 15, 2023, 10:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wordle-a-strangely-compelling-word-game-part-2/981659/3763 "2023-10-15T10:42:44Z")

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Wordle 848 4/6\*

\begin{aligned} &\bbox[silver,5px,border:1px solid black]{\texttt B} \bbox[lime,5px,border:1px solid black]{\texttt E} \bbox[lime,5px,border:1px solid black]{\texttt A} \bbox[silver,5px,border:1px solid black]{\texttt R} \bbox[silver,5px,border:1px solid black]{\texttt D} \\ &\bbox[silver,5px,border:1px solid black]{\texttt P} \bbox[lime,5px,border:1px solid black]{\texttt E} \bbox[lime,5px,border:1px solid black]{\texttt A} \bbox[silver,5px,border:1px solid black]{\texttt C} \bbox[silver,5px,border:1px solid black]{\texttt H} \\ &\bbox[lime,5px,border:1px solid black]{\texttt L} \bbox[lime,5px,border:1px solid black]{\texttt E} \bbox[lime,5px,border:1px solid black]{\texttt A} \bbox[silver,5px,border:1px solid black]{\texttt S} \bbox[silver,5px,border:1px solid black]{\texttt T} \\ &\bbox[lime,5px,border:1px solid black]{\texttt L} \bbox[lime,5px,border:1px solid black]{\texttt E} \bbox[lime,5px,border:1px solid black]{\texttt A} \bbox[lime,5px,border:1px solid black]{\texttt K} \bbox[lime,5px,border:1px solid black]{\texttt Y} \\ \end{aligned}

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### Author: ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)
#### Post date: [October 15, 2023, 10:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wordle-a-strangely-compelling-word-game-part-2/981659/3764 "2023-10-15T10:44:09Z")

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Wordle 848 4/6\*

🟦🟦⬛⬛🟦  
⬛⬛🟦🟦🟦  
🟧🟧🟧⬛🟧  
🟧🟧🟧🟧🟧

ALONE  
STEAL  
LEARY  
LEAKY

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### Author: ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)
#### Post date: [October 15, 2023, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wordle-a-strangely-compelling-word-game-part-2/981659/3765 "2023-10-15T12:05:11Z")

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Wordle 848 3/6

⬜🟨🟩⬜⬜ 65  
⬜⬜⬜⬜🟨 9  
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

SLANT  
CHORE  
LEAKY =\> LEAFY and MEALY had already been solutions.

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### Author: ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)
#### Post date: [October 15, 2023, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wordle-a-strangely-compelling-word-game-part-2/981659/3766 "2023-10-15T13:02:32Z")

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> [@Bullitt](#):
>
> I don’t like my starting words. I want a set of four starting words that eliminate more letters. Ideally, 4 starting words would eliminate 20 letters. My 3 starting words eliminate 15 which is good, but after that there are a lot of duplicated letters in any 4th word

I agree with Ellis that you shouldn’t bother with a standard 4th word; your first three, at most (ideally your first two, but that won’t always be the case), should get you to where you’re adapting to what you already know.

But in this case, you’re at that point after your first word. You’ve got three letters, it’s time to see what you can do with them. What I do is write down how they can be legally arranged, and see if that jogs my mind for how the remaining blanks might be filled. Fishing for at most two letters can use up a lot of guesses without getting you anywhere, and there may be a repeat in which case you’re fishing for just one, which would make it even more futile.

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### Author: ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)
#### Post date: [October 15, 2023, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wordle-a-strangely-compelling-word-game-part-2/981659/3767 "2023-10-15T13:17:02Z")

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I go with two research words virtually always, unless the first word has so many hits that I can’t fit in my standard follow-up letters of “ser.” Then I just look until I see something and, for the most part, just guess the first thing I see. I do not try and tailor my 3rd guess to guarantee a 4.

But my question was literal, not leading. A while ago I wrote a program that lets you type in a bunch of letters and it will spit out five letter words using them all without repeats. If possible, of course. Given 20 letters, if four unique words can cover those 20 letters, I can come up with them.

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### Author: ![chiliwillybing](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chiliwillybing/32/12394_2.png) [@chiliwillybing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chiliwillybing)
#### Post date: [October 15, 2023, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wordle-a-strangely-compelling-word-game-part-2/981659/3768 "2023-10-15T13:27:33Z")

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Wordle 848 4/6

⬜⬜🟨🟨🟨  
🟩🟨⬜🟨⬜  
🟩🟩🟩⬜🟩  
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

IDEAL  
LATER  
LEAFY  
LEAKY

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### Author: ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)
#### Post date: [October 15, 2023, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wordle-a-strangely-compelling-word-game-part-2/981659/3769 "2023-10-15T13:46:39Z")

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Wordle 848 3/6

⬜🟩🟩⬜⬜  
⬜🟩🟩⬜🟩  
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

HEART  
SEAMY  
LEAKY

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### Author: ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)
#### Post date: [October 15, 2023, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wordle-a-strangely-compelling-word-game-part-2/981659/3770 "2023-10-15T13:59:29Z")

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Wordle 848 4/6

⬜🟦🟧⬜🟦  
🟧🟧🟧⬜⬜  
🟧🟧🟧⬜🟧  
🟧🟧🟧🟧🟧

SLATE  
LEARN  
LEAFY - Hey, it’s fall, right?  
LEAKY

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### Author: ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)
#### Post date: [October 15, 2023, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wordle-a-strangely-compelling-word-game-part-2/981659/3771 "2023-10-15T14:24:59Z")

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Wordle 848 3/6\*

⬛⬛⬛⬛🟨  
⬛🟨🟩⬛🟨  
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

QUOTA  
PLANE  
LEAKY

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### Author: ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)
#### Post date: [October 15, 2023, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wordle-a-strangely-compelling-word-game-part-2/981659/3772 "2023-10-15T14:33:58Z")

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> **Wordle 848 5/6\* 10/15/2023**
>
> 🟨⬜🟨⬜⬜  
> 🟩🟨⬜🟨⬜  
> 🟩🟩🟩⬜⬜  
> 🟩🟩🟩⬜🟩  
> 🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩
> 
> _A_G_E_NT → Two vowels already. Let’s go comcons for the next guess  
> **L** _A_S_E_R → Placed the L, ex-L-ent. If I keep moving the A over, I can slide the E between them and try  
> **LEA** CH → Doesn’t feel traplike at this point. Let’s see, LEAVE/LEAFY/LEAKY, can’t see much else. If I go LEAVE, I could end up with a six (or miss if I’m not seeing something). Best to try  
> **LEA** F **Y** → Oh-K.  
> **LEAKY**  
> LEAZE is a word? C’mon, Scoredle - pull the other one, it’s got bells on.

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### Author: ![StarvingButStrong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/starvingbutstrong/32/335_2.png) [@StarvingButStrong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StarvingButStrong)
#### Post date: [October 15, 2023, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wordle-a-strangely-compelling-word-game-part-2/981659/3773 "2023-10-15T14:48:31Z")

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> [@EllisDee](#):
>
> Given 20 letters, if four unique words can cover those 20 letters, I can come up with them.

Not mine, someone else posted this set:

podgy flame brick shunt

Covers all letters except J Q V W X Z

I’ve used those as the opening words multiple times playing the 16 simultaneous word version (sedecordle, something like that.) Over all, I’d say the missing V and then the W are the only letters that generally impact my being able to easily solve all 16 words.

(I have no idea what podgy means, but Wordle takes it.)

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### Author: ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)
#### Post date: [October 15, 2023, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wordle-a-strangely-compelling-word-game-part-2/981659/3774 "2023-10-15T15:20:39Z")

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Happy with a 3 this morning!

Wordle 848 3/6\*

⬛⬛🟩⬛🟨  
🟩🟩🟩⬛⬛  
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

IRATE  
LEASH  
LEAKY

Even WordleBot was impressed. 😉

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### Author: ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)
#### Post date: [October 15, 2023, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wordle-a-strangely-compelling-word-game-part-2/981659/3775 "2023-10-15T16:12:12Z")

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Wordle 848 3/6

🟦⬛⬛🟦🟦  
🟧🟧🟧⬛⬛  
🟧🟧🟧🟧🟧

AISLE  
LEARN  
LEAKY

As you may know, I’m fond of mixing up my starting words; keeps the game fresh for me. So I don’t have a standard second word either. But for the second day in a row I used LEARN, and it worked out better today than yesterday.  
I try not to use the past words list (sometimes I do), but I distinctly remembered both LEAFY and LEAPT having been used. That left LEACH and LEAKY. I actually typed in LEACH, then decided LEAKY seemed more Wordle-y. For a change, I was right!

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#### Post date: [October 16, 2023, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wordle-a-strangely-compelling-word-game-part-2/981659/3776 "2023-10-16T02:04:26Z")

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**Wordle 848 3/6**

⬜🟨🟩⬜🟨  
⬜🟩🟩🟨⬜  
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

SLATE  
REALM  
LEAKY

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### Author: ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2023, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wordle-a-strangely-compelling-word-game-part-2/981659/3777 "2023-10-16T03:10:03Z")

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Wordle 848 3/6\*

🟩🟩🟩⬜⬜  
🟩🟩🟩⬜⬜  
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

LEAST  
LEACH  
LEAKY  
Happy with a 3, but WordleBot didn’t like my 2nd guess

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### Author: ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2023, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wordle-a-strangely-compelling-word-game-part-2/981659/3778 "2023-10-16T04:06:29Z")

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MON OCT 16th

Wordle 849 3/6\*

🟦⬛⬛⬛⬛  
⬛🟧🟧⬛🟧  
🟧🟧🟧🟧🟧

ALONE  
TRASH  
GRAPH

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### Author: ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2023, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wordle-a-strangely-compelling-word-game-part-2/981659/3779 "2023-10-16T04:50:11Z")

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Wordle 849 3/6

🟨⬛🟩⬛⬛  
⬛🟨🟩🟨⬛  
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

PLANT  
SPARE  
GRAPH

Nice and quick.

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### Author: ![psychobunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/54ee81/32.png) [@psychobunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychobunny)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2023, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wordle-a-strangely-compelling-word-game-part-2/981659/3780 "2023-10-16T05:29:10Z")

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Wordle 849 3/6

🟨🟨⬜⬜⬜  
⬜🟨🟩🟨⬜  
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

RATIO  
SHARE  
GRAPH

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