# "Wordle," a strangely compelling word game (Part 2)

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wordle-a-strangely-compelling-word-game-part-2/981659
**Category:** The Game Room
**Tags:** board-card-word-game
**Created:** [March 25, 2023, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wordle-a-strangely-compelling-word-game-part-2/981659 "2023-03-25T23:59:39Z")
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### Author: ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)
#### Post date: [October 17, 2023, 9:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wordle-a-strangely-compelling-word-game-part-2/981659/3801 "2023-10-17T09:50:43Z")

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Wordle 850 3/6\*

🟧🟦⬛⬛⬛  
🟧⬛🟦🟧⬛  
🟧🟧🟧🟧🟧

ALONE  
APTLY  
ADULT

And, out of curiosity:

> [@RTFirefly](#):
>
> See StarvingButStrong’s post yesterday. It contains four words that contain 20 different letters, leaving out only J,Q,V,W,X, and Z, which are the six least common letters in Wordle solutions so far.

If U is confirmed, that’s one thing — but if it’s ruled out, is Q?

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### Author: ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)
#### Post date: [October 17, 2023, 10:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wordle-a-strangely-compelling-word-game-part-2/981659/3802 "2023-10-17T10:52:37Z")

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Wordle 850 3/6

⬜🟨🟨⬜🟩 18  
⬜🟨🟩🟩🟩 1  
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

SLANT  
VAULT  
ADULT

Guessed wrong at 2, but _c’est la vie_. There were also FAULT and VALET, but they had already been used.

> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
>
> If U is confirmed, that’s one thing — but if it’s ruled out, is Q?

That’s certainly my assumption, that Q appears only as part of a QU combination - and followed by another vowel, since the QU sound is similar to a KW sound, close enough anyway that it needs a following vowel.

So since QU[vowel] takes up a lot of room in a 5-letter word, you can always ask yourself if there’s a way to fit all that into the solution, given the letters you’ve already got. Very often you can eliminate Q after your first couple of guesses because there just isn’t enough room for the QU[vowel] combo anywhere.

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#### Post date: [October 17, 2023, 11:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wordle-a-strangely-compelling-word-game-part-2/981659/3803 "2023-10-17T11:37:39Z")

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Wordle 850 4/6\*

\begin{aligned} &\bbox[silver,5px,border:1px solid black]{\texttt B} \bbox[silver,5px,border:1px solid black]{\texttt E} \bbox[yellow,5px,border:1px solid black]{\texttt A} \bbox[silver,5px,border:1px solid black]{\texttt R} \bbox[yellow,5px,border:1px solid black]{\texttt D} \\ &\bbox[lime,5px,border:1px solid black]{\texttt A} \bbox[lime,5px,border:1px solid black]{\texttt D} \bbox[silver,5px,border:1px solid black]{\texttt M} \bbox[silver,5px,border:1px solid black]{\texttt I} \bbox[lime,5px,border:1px solid black]{\texttt T} \\ &\bbox[lime,5px,border:1px solid black]{\texttt A} \bbox[lime,5px,border:1px solid black]{\texttt D} \bbox[silver,5px,border:1px solid black]{\texttt O} \bbox[silver,5px,border:1px solid black]{\texttt P} \bbox[lime,5px,border:1px solid black]{\texttt T} \\ &\bbox[lime,5px,border:1px solid black]{\texttt A} \bbox[lime,5px,border:1px solid black]{\texttt D} \bbox[lime,5px,border:1px solid black]{\texttt U} \bbox[lime,5px,border:1px solid black]{\texttt L} \bbox[lime,5px,border:1px solid black]{\texttt T} \\ \end{aligned}

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#### Post date: [October 17, 2023, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wordle-a-strangely-compelling-word-game-part-2/981659/3804 "2023-10-17T12:05:14Z")

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Wordle 850 3/6

⬜⬜🟨⬜🟩  
🟩⬜⬜🟨🟩  
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

HEART  
ABOUT  
ADULT

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#### Post date: [October 17, 2023, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wordle-a-strangely-compelling-word-game-part-2/981659/3805 "2023-10-17T12:16:01Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
>
> > [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
> >
> > If U is confirmed, that’s one thing — but if it’s ruled out, is Q?
> 
> That’s certainly my assumption, that Q appears only as part of a QU combination - and followed by another vowel, since the QU sound is similar to a KW sound, close enough anyway that it needs a following vowel.
> 
> So since QU[vowel] takes up a lot of room in a 5-letter word, you can always ask yourself if there’s a way to fit all that into the solution, given the letters you’ve already got. Very often you can eliminate Q after your first couple of guesses because there just isn’t enough room for the QU[vowel] combo anywhere.

My assumption as well. And nice analysis, **RTF**. IIRC there have only been a handful of solutions with Q.

Added: according to this site, about 11 of them.

> **[Past Wordle answers: Archive of previous words](https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/wordle-past-answers)**
>
> If you want to check out which Wordle words have been used previously, you can use this archive to find out all previou…

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#### Post date: [October 17, 2023, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wordle-a-strangely-compelling-word-game-part-2/981659/3806 "2023-10-17T12:58:12Z")

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Played late yesterday, to a noisy four:  
Wordle 849 4/6

⬛🟧🟧⬛⬛  
🟦🟧🟧⬛⬛  
🟧🟧🟧⬛🟦  
🟧🟧🟧🟧🟧

ORATE  
PRANK  
GRASP  
GRAPH

Today:  
Wordle 850 3/6

⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛  
⬛🟦🟦🟦🟧  
🟧🟧🟧🟧🟧

OVINE  
SALUT  
ADULT

Always nice to get a three after a strikeout. I wasn’t sure SALUT would be a valid guess, but it turned out to be a good one!

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### Author: ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)
#### Post date: [October 17, 2023, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wordle-a-strangely-compelling-word-game-part-2/981659/3807 "2023-10-17T13:23:05Z")

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That’s right, Q has appeared only 11 times in Wordles 0-849. (Yes, there was a Wordle 0. The solution was CIGAR.)

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#### Post date: [October 17, 2023, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wordle-a-strangely-compelling-word-game-part-2/981659/3808 "2023-10-17T13:29:30Z")

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Wordle 850 3/6

⬜🟨⬜⬜⬜  
🟩⬜⬜🟨🟩  
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

RAISE  
ABOUT  
ADULT

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### Author: ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)
#### Post date: [October 17, 2023, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wordle-a-strangely-compelling-word-game-part-2/981659/3809 "2023-10-17T14:57:38Z")

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Wordle 850 3/6

⬜🟦🟦🟦⬜  
🟧🟦⬜🟧⬜  
🟧🟧🟧🟧🟧

SLATE  
ATOLL  
ADULT

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### Author: ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)
#### Post date: [October 17, 2023, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wordle-a-strangely-compelling-word-game-part-2/981659/3810 "2023-10-17T15:29:40Z")

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> **Wordle 850 5/6\* 10/17/2023**
>
> ⬜⬜🟨⬜⬜  
> ⬜🟨🟨⬜⬜  
> 🟩🟨⬜⬜⬜  
> 🟩⬜⬜🟨🟨  
> 🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩
> 
> GR_A_PH → Bit of a slow start. Comcons and another vowel - or should I try two? Kinda wish I had six letters for guessing  
> S_AL_ON → Not bad, but still need to place the A. It’s time to guess two vowels, and since Wordle doesn’t like ALITE I’ll try  
> **A** _L_IKE → Placed the A, otherwise a whiff. There’s gotta be a U in there - and only two places left for the L. I don’t feel great about today’s puzzle, so  
> **A** WF_UL_ - At least I know where the L goes. Oh, must be  
> **ADULT**
> 
> I can’t believe I couldn’t find a good word to check the letter T before the end.

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#### Post date: [October 17, 2023, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wordle-a-strangely-compelling-word-game-part-2/981659/3811 "2023-10-17T15:53:22Z")

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In Scrabble, there are valid five-letter words that contain Q without U (_tranq_ and _faqir_ are the only ones I can think of). The complete list of Wordle solutions (past and future) does not contain any such words. Some such words are allowed as guesses in Wordle (including _tranq_), but will not be solutions.

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#### Post date: [October 17, 2023, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wordle-a-strangely-compelling-word-game-part-2/981659/3812 "2023-10-17T18:24:44Z")

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I’ve always played the game without checking past answers. Only recently I checked that list in the link I shared earlier. But usually I don’t look at it. I just play.

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#### Post date: [October 17, 2023, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wordle-a-strangely-compelling-word-game-part-2/981659/3813 "2023-10-17T18:31:07Z")

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Hah! My turn for an undeserved 2!

Wordle 850 2/6\*

⬛⬛🟨🟨⬛  
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

IRATE  
ADULT

According to WordleBot, there were 64 possible answers after my opening. So this one was pure luck. Also a pretty apt description of my state of mind this morning, for various reasons.

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#### Post date: [October 17, 2023, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wordle-a-strangely-compelling-word-game-part-2/981659/3814 "2023-10-17T19:55:56Z")

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Wordle 850 3/6\*

⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛  
⬛🟨⬛⬛🟩  
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

BROKE  
FLINT  
ADULT

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#### Post date: [October 17, 2023, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wordle-a-strangely-compelling-word-game-part-2/981659/3815 "2023-10-17T19:59:15Z")

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> [@Aspenglow](#):
>
> Also a pretty apt description of my state of mind this morning, for various reasons.

Also mine, as insinuated in my first word.

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#### Post date: [October 18, 2023, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wordle-a-strangely-compelling-word-game-part-2/981659/3816 "2023-10-18T00:54:34Z")

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My 500th in a row!

Wordle 850 3/6

⬜⬜🟩⬜🟩  
🟩⬜⬜🟨⬜  
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

COURT  
ASIDE  
ADULT

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#### Post date: [October 18, 2023, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wordle-a-strangely-compelling-word-game-part-2/981659/3817 "2023-10-18T03:09:48Z")

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**Wordle 850 4/6**

⬜🟨🟨🟨⬜  
🟨⬜⬜🟨🟨  
⬜🟨🟩🟩🟩  
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

SLATE  
TOTAL  
VAULT  
ADULT

Just saw two words it could be after my second guess…I couldn’t decide between the two, so I tossed a coin to decide my fate. Can’t be mad at a coin, can I? 😆

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#### Post date: [October 18, 2023, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wordle-a-strangely-compelling-word-game-part-2/981659/3818 "2023-10-18T04:01:44Z")

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Wordle 850 3/6\*

🟩⬜⬜⬜⬜  
🟩⬜🟨🟩⬜  
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

ARISE  
APTLY  
ADULT

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#### Post date: [October 18, 2023, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wordle-a-strangely-compelling-word-game-part-2/981659/3819 "2023-10-18T04:12:28Z")

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**Wednesday, October 18th**

Wordle 851 4/6

⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛  
⬛🟨⬛🟨🟨  
🟨⬛🟨⬛🟨  
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

PLANT  
SCORE  
CHEER  
MERCY

Felt good about cheer, but I can’t complain about saving par when the opener blanks.

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### Author: ![psychobunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/54ee81/32.png) [@psychobunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychobunny)
#### Post date: [October 18, 2023, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wordle-a-strangely-compelling-word-game-part-2/981659/3820 "2023-10-18T04:41:51Z")

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Wordle 851 4/6

🟨⬜⬜⬜⬜  
🟨🟨⬜⬜🟨  
⬜🟩🟩🟩⬜  
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

RATIO  
CRUDE  
PERCH  
MERCY

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