# Words one can get confused

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/words-one-can-get-confused/971772>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [September 18, 2022, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/words-one-can-get-confused/971772 "2022-09-18T20:10:31Z")\
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**Post date:** [June 21, 2023, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/words-one-can-get-confused/971772/464 "2023-06-21T02:56:04Z")

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> [@DPRK](#):
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> The root of “craw” means neck,

More ignorance fought! Yes, these three words confusingly overlap in idiomatic espressions.

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**Post date:** [June 29, 2023, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/words-one-can-get-confused/971772/465 "2023-06-29T12:00:53Z")

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**fjord** : a long, narrow, steep-sided inlet of the sea carved by a glacier  
**ford** : (1) a shallow place in a stream or river, or (2) to cross a stream or river at such a place

A couple of hours ago I read a _Wall Street Journal_ article that said “to fjord a stream.” Somebody must have complained, because it looks like the article has already been corrected online.

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**Post date:** [June 29, 2023, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/words-one-can-get-confused/971772/466 "2023-06-29T13:09:42Z")

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Then there’s **fnord**. Which you didn’t see and therefore cannot compare to **fjord** or **ford**.

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**Author:** ![Leo\_Krupe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ebca7d/32.png) [@Leo\_Krupe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leo_Krupe)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2023, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/words-one-can-get-confused/971772/467 "2023-06-29T13:58:06Z")

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I didn’t read every post, so these may have already been posted.

**Diffuse**  
**Defuse**  
I see these mixed up all the time, and it pisses me off. I most recently saw it last night on a promo for the series _The Diplomat_ on Netflix. The description mentioned how a diplomat had to **diffuse** international tensions.

I don’t think that would be a very good diplomat.

Also,

**EDT**  
**EST**  
Which stands for Eastern Daylight Time and Eastern Standard Time, respectively. As I write this, it is June, which is during Daylight Saving Time, and I am in the Eastern Time Zone of the US, so it is EDT. I see so many people using EST during EDT that it drives me up a wall.

It’s so simple to check, but even that’s too much work for some people.

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**Post date:** [June 29, 2023, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/words-one-can-get-confused/971772/468 "2023-06-29T14:07:43Z")

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> [@california\_jobcase](#):
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> Pica: disorder that compels one to eat inedible substances  
> Pica: 1/6 of an inch, 12 points: used in typography

Also:

> **[Pika](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pika)**
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> See text
> A pika is a small, mountain-dwelling mammal native to Asia and North America. With short limbs, a very round body, an even coat of fur, and no external tail, they resemble their close relative, the rabbit, but with short, rounded ears. The large-eared pika of the Himalayas and nearby mountains lives at elevations of more than 6,000 m (20,000 ft).
> Pikas prefer rocky slopes and graze on a range of plants, primarily grasses, flowers, and young stems. In the autumn they pull hay, soft tw...

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**Post date:** [June 29, 2023, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/words-one-can-get-confused/971772/469 "2023-06-29T16:43:24Z")

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> [@Leo\_Krupe](#):
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> **EDT**  
> **EST**  
> Which stands for Eastern Daylight Time and Eastern Standard Time, respectively. As I write this, it is June, which is during Daylight Saving Time, and I am in the Eastern Time Zone of the US, so it is EDT. I see so many people using EST during EDT that it drives me up a wall.

Smarter folks simply use “ET” for “eastern time”. Assuming of course we’re talking about setting a meeting or event in the near future, not at some long-future date where the DST changeover is between now when we’re talking and later when the event will be.

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**Author:** ![bibliophage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bibliophage/32/7615_2.png) [@bibliophage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bibliophage)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2023, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/words-one-can-get-confused/971772/470 "2023-07-01T16:29:34Z")

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**consolation** : the act of comforting someone  
**consultation** : the act of seeking advice or discussion; or, a meeting or conference held for that purpose

I wouldn’t have thought they’re so easy to confuse, but today I spotted in the wild the error of using _consolation_ where _consultation_ seems to make a lot more sense: [Policy 713: LGBT school policy change causes political turmoil in Canada](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66061514)

> Initially passed in 2020 after a decade of consolations, Policy 713 in its original form asked for parental consent in order to formally change students’ names or pronouns, but made it mandatory to use a student’s preferred name if it is not possible to get permission from a parent.

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**Post date:** [July 1, 2023, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/words-one-can-get-confused/971772/471 "2023-07-01T18:13:36Z")

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**predicted** : stated or estimated as likely to happen in the future; forecast.  
**predicated** : founded or based on something.

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**Post date:** [July 2, 2023, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/words-one-can-get-confused/971772/472 "2023-07-02T04:20:32Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> On a related note, when did **‘woah’** become an acceptable spelling of this word?

If you ever find out, let me know, so I can lament that day.

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**Post date:** [July 2, 2023, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/words-one-can-get-confused/971772/473 "2023-07-02T20:24:56Z")

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The first time I came across “whoa” in print (in a book of riddles, long ago), I pronounced it in my head “who-a”. I think the question was “what did Paul Revere say at the end of his ride?”

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**Post date:** [July 2, 2023, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/words-one-can-get-confused/971772/474 "2023-07-02T20:44:29Z")

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“Woe!”, because he was captured by the British? 😛

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**Post date:** [July 2, 2023, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/words-one-can-get-confused/971772/475 "2023-07-02T23:05:57Z")

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**cupola** : a dome-shaped structure  
**copula** : a linking verb or device

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**copulate** : Err … umm … blush.  
**carapace** : shell of an insect or other creepy-crawly.

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**Post date:** [July 3, 2023, 10:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/words-one-can-get-confused/971772/477 "2023-07-03T10:11:38Z")

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> [@bibliophage](#):
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> **consolation** : the act of comforting someone  
> **consultation** : the act of seeking advice or discussion; or, a meeting or conference held for that purpose

council: a body of people elected/appointed to manage the affairs of an organization.

consul: a diplomatic official.

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**Post date:** [July 3, 2023, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/words-one-can-get-confused/971772/478 "2023-07-03T14:12:54Z")

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Counsel: either an attorney or some advice.

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**Post date:** [July 3, 2023, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/words-one-can-get-confused/971772/479 "2023-07-03T14:26:56Z")

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> [@Machine\_Elf](#):
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> council: a body of people elected/appointed to manage the affairs of an organization.  
> consul: a diplomatic official.

> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> Counsel: either an attorney or some advice.

Cowsill: Member of sibling singing group that inspired the TV show The Partridge Family

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**Post date:** [July 3, 2023, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/words-one-can-get-confused/971772/480 "2023-07-03T15:21:07Z")

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Codicil - a supplement to a will, containing an addition, explanation, modification, etc., of something in the will.

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> [@TriPolar](#):
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> Cowsill: Member of sibling singing group that inspired the TV show The Partridge Family

They were contemporaries but I’d never heard that the Cowsills “inspired” The Partridge Family.

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**Post date:** [July 3, 2023, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/words-one-can-get-confused/971772/482 "2023-07-03T16:09:55Z")

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Several sources indicate this. The Cowsills were around for several years before the Partridge Family began.

[from IMDb](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2042520/):

> [@](#):
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> The Partridge Family was loosely based on the true life story of the Cowsills, who were a family rock group in the late 1960s.

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**Post date:** [July 3, 2023, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/words-one-can-get-confused/971772/483 "2023-07-03T16:17:27Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> **copulate** : Err … umm … blush.  
> **carapace** : shell of an insect or other creepy-crawly.

Seems like an unlikely pair to confuse but on the other hand, one time I began to search youtube for “turtles happy together” and it autocompleted to “turtles having sex”.

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