# Words one can get confused

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [September 18, 2022, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/words-one-can-get-confused/971772 "2022-09-18T20:10:31Z")\
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**negatory** : negative, negating  
**nugatory** : trifling, ineffective, worthless

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> [@EnolaStraight](#):
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> **Affirm** -I will believe your feelings.  
> **Confirm** -I will verify your facts.

But affirm has much broader usage. Its meaning overlaps with confirm - it can be exactly synonymous confirm, but only with respect to something that is in some sense positive.

Affirm can also mean to _assert_ positively, rather than merely confirm or validate.

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**Post date:** [January 7, 2024, 8:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/words-one-can-get-confused/971772/746 "2024-01-07T08:59:38Z")

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**refute** : = prove something wrong/untrue

**rebut** : = deny without proof

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**Author:** ![EnolaStraight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/41988e/32.png) [@EnolaStraight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EnolaStraight)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2024, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/words-one-can-get-confused/971772/747 "2024-01-07T14:17:56Z")

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Indeed.  
You want to sound all technical and professional responding to a query?

You say, “Affirmative, sir.”

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**Post date:** [January 7, 2024, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/words-one-can-get-confused/971772/748 "2024-01-07T15:48:06Z")

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> [@PatrickLondon](#):
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> **rebut** : = deny without proof

No, I don’t think this is correct. A rebuttal typically involves an argument or proof as to why something is wrong.

> **[Definition of REBUTTAL](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/rebuttal)**
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> the act of rebutting especially in a legal suit; also : argument or proof that rebuts… See the full definition

> **[Rebuttal - Definition, Meaning & Synonyms](https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/rebuttal)**
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> When two people debate, one of them makes an argument, and the other follows with a rebuttal, which, plainly put, is the "no, you're wrong and this is why" argument.

Unless you’re Homer Simpson.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/MnQTDht2ato/hqdefault.jpg "The Simpsons - Ignoramus (Homer's Rebuttal)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnQTDht2ato)

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**Post date:** [January 7, 2024, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/words-one-can-get-confused/971772/749 "2024-01-07T15:55:17Z")

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> [@PatrickLondon](#):
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> **refute** : = prove something wrong/untrue
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> **rebut** : = deny without proof

> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#):
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> A rebuttal typically involves an argument or proof as to why something is wrong.

These two are very close. I also don’t think a rebuttal _lacks_ proof. It certainly also implies presenting evidence or counterarguments, not just denial. If there’s a subtle difference between the two I think it’s that refute tends to imply _success_ in proving something wrong (perhaps objectively wrong), rebut does not necessarily imply decisive success?

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**Post date:** [January 7, 2024, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/words-one-can-get-confused/971772/750 "2024-01-07T18:29:02Z")

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Yes, perhaps that’s a more nuanced way of putting it. A rebuttal doesn’t prove conclusively in the way a refutal does. Whenever I hear some politician or corporate bigwig under attack go all huffy and say “I refute that entirely!”, I want to say “Well, go on then”.

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**Post date:** [January 7, 2024, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/words-one-can-get-confused/971772/751 "2024-01-07T19:05:55Z")

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You don’t say “affirmative,” or some shit like that. You say “no problemo.”

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**Post date:** [January 7, 2024, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/words-one-can-get-confused/971772/752 "2024-01-07T19:42:12Z")

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In any event, I seem to recall that the next step is to as Victor for the vector.

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**dastard** : a despicable and malicious coward; a dullard  
**bastard** : one begotten and born out of wedlock; a mongrel; a contemptible man or boy; a fellow or chap

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**bustard** - large, terrestrial birds living mainly in dry grassland areas and on the steppes of the Old World. They make up the family Otididae.

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> [@DPRK](#):
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> **bastard** : one begotten and born out of wedlock; a mongrel; a contemptible man or boy; a fellow or chap

This is also a type of file.

> **[bastard file - Wiktionary, the free dictionary](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bastard_file)**

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And a sword, [which can be used 1 or 2 handed](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classification_of_swords#Handedness).

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**disperse** : to scatter, break up, or dissipate. The noun forms are _dispersal_ and _dispersion_  
**disburse** : to pay out. The noun form is _disbursement_.

Seeds are dispersed and crowds disperse, but money is disbursed from an account to a payee.

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And the person in charge of disbursing funds at a college is the **bursar**

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All coming from the Latin bursa, meaning a purse, but also the source for the bursitis (tennis elbow or housemaid’s knee) that can afflict the sac (or purse) of fluid around an overworked joint.

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> [@Lumpy](#):
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> the person in charge of disbursing funds at a college is the **bursar**

Whereas the **Purser** is the person in charge handling the money on a ship or plane.

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> [@Lumpy](#):
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> And the person in charge of disbursing funds at a college is the **bursar**

I feel like a bursar should burse, not disburse.

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When I was in college, the Bursar was where you went to hand in your tuition payment.

I suspect the Bursar is really “the entire accounting department”, just using archaic terminology because academia is like that.

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**Post date:** [January 14, 2024, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/words-one-can-get-confused/971772/763 "2024-01-14T12:39:19Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> I suspect the Bursar is really “the entire accounting department”, just using archaic terminology because academia is like that.

I’m sure it is sometimes, but at the college I worked at the bursar’s office strictly handled student accounts - tuition payments , refunds, and so on. They might have been _part_ of the accounting department but the people who paid bills and handled payroll were not part of the bursar’s office.

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