# Words you can not say as a real man(addition) **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [September 3, 2004, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/words-you-can-not-say-as-a-real-man-addition/262928 "2004-09-03T06:23:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2004, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/words-you-can-not-say-as-a-real-man-addition/262928/1 "2004-09-03T06:23:25Z")
I just saw a commercial where the guys were talking about a sweatshirt with a hood. They used the word “hoodie” to describe it. As a founding member of the Society of Manly Men I hearby move that the word “hoodie” be included on the official ‘list of words that sound really stupid to say unless you are a cute flirty chick’ All in favor? [sub]Not worthy to make a pit rant, but does anyone think it sounds a stupid as I do?[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![Seven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Seven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seven)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2004, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/words-you-can-not-say-as-a-real-man-addition/262928/2 "2004-09-03T06:30:15Z")
Real men say what they want. ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Fire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e4f/32.png) [@Silver\_Fire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Fire)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2004, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/words-you-can-not-say-as-a-real-man-addition/262928/3 "2004-09-03T06:30:56Z")
What else is on the list? Silver Fire, who is, by all accounts, most certainly not a real man. ---
**Author:** ![Telperien](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/65b543/32.png) [@Telperien](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telperien)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2004, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/words-you-can-not-say-as-a-real-man-addition/262928/4 "2004-09-03T06:31:47Z")
“Hoodie” is a stupid word. I am a cute flirty chick (according to some people, anyway) and I won’t use that word. It is a hooded sweatshirt or shirt or whatever. I am not worried that the word impugns my manhood, I just don’t like the word. ---
**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2004, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/words-you-can-not-say-as-a-real-man-addition/262928/5 "2004-09-03T06:34:38Z")
How about the more pompous (and French, for a double-whammy, to some) _anorak_? It’s as far as I can tell almost the identically same thing, except an anorak, as I learned it anyway, is also a ski jacket of sorts. Or something. It has a hood, it has strings to tighten same hood, it zips up. What more do you need? ---
**Author:** ![Mockingbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c68b51/32.png) [@Mockingbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mockingbird)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2004, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/words-you-can-not-say-as-a-real-man-addition/262928/6 "2004-09-03T06:35:42Z")
I’m a gay guy and ‘hoodie’ is just so sad and nelly that I really can’t imagine a drag queen saying it without either giggling or feeling that they had now done something so effeminate that they slingshotted around the sexuality spectrum and became Jack LaLanne. ---
**Author:** ![Telperien](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/65b543/32.png) [@Telperien](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telperien)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2004, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/words-you-can-not-say-as-a-real-man-addition/262928/7 "2004-09-03T06:37:01Z")
I always thought an anorak was a windbreaker. Oops. ---
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2004, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/words-you-can-not-say-as-a-real-man-addition/262928/8 "2004-09-03T06:41:17Z")
I’ve got that “not so fresh” feeling. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Doubt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/df705f/32.png) [@Peter\_Doubt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Doubt)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2004, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/words-you-can-not-say-as-a-real-man-addition/262928/9 "2004-09-03T06:41:21Z")
I thought hoodie was baby talk. As in ‘Awww, lookit da cute widdle hoodie’ followed of course by a cheek pinch. ---
**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2004, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/words-you-can-not-say-as-a-real-man-addition/262928/10 "2004-09-03T06:41:37Z")
> [@Harimad-sol](#): > > I always thought an anorak was a windbreaker. Oops. The pictures in those French books were never quite clear, were they? One version had folks skiing and wearing anoraks. Then another has a blustery wind (cuz the leaves are all a flutter), etc. I get the feeling it’s somewhere between a long-sleeved shirt and a down coat, but it must have a hood. ---
**Author:** ![Telperien](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/65b543/32.png) [@Telperien](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telperien)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2004, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/words-you-can-not-say-as-a-real-man-addition/262928/11 "2004-09-03T06:45:59Z")
Maybe if my French profs had said something like “parka,” I wouldn’t have been so confused. ---
**Author:** ![Standup\_Karmic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ac91a4/32.png) [@Standup\_Karmic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Standup_Karmic)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2004, 6:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/words-you-can-not-say-as-a-real-man-addition/262928/12 "2004-09-03T06:59:38Z")
> [@Harimad-sol](#): > > It is a hooded sweatshirt… Pray tell, good man, whenceforth has my hoooded sweatshirt gone, for it contains my door-unlocking devices and my money-holding sheath. I dunno. I find it easier to say “hoodie”. I guess I’m just nancy. ---
**Author:** ![Telperien](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/65b543/32.png) [@Telperien](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telperien)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2004, 7:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/words-you-can-not-say-as-a-real-man-addition/262928/13 "2004-09-03T07:05:59Z")
> [@Standup Karmic](#): > > Pray tell, good man, whenceforth has my hoooded sweatshirt gone, for it contains my door-unlocking devices and my money-holding sheath. > > I dunno. I find it easier to say “hoodie”. I guess I’m just nancy. Hee. Actually, most of the time, I would just say sweatshirt, then have to specify the hooded one. Hmm. This system has a huge gaping flaw. The way of the stubborn word-hater is not an easy one. ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2004, 7:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/words-you-can-not-say-as-a-real-man-addition/262928/14 "2004-09-03T07:08:25Z")
> [@iampunha](#): > > The pictures in those French books were never quite clear, were they? One version had folks skiing and wearing anoraks. Then another has a blustery wind (cuz the leaves are all a flutter), etc. I get the feeling it’s somewhere between a long-sleeved shirt and a down coat, but it must have a hood. An anorak, in my experience, is a pullover fleece with a high collar that zips down a few inches. And I will continue to use the word too… it sounds more dignified than fleece does. ---
**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2004, 7:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/words-you-can-not-say-as-a-real-man-addition/262928/15 "2004-09-03T07:14:07Z")
But “underpants” is still manly, right? Ri-i-ight…?!? ---
**Author:** ![Necro\_Romancer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/50afbb/32.png) [@Necro\_Romancer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Necro_Romancer)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2004, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/words-you-can-not-say-as-a-real-man-addition/262928/16 "2004-09-03T07:17:46Z")
It’s “shaftbag” now, and don’t miss anymore meetings. ---
**Author:** ![SolGrundy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbce88/32.png) [@SolGrundy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SolGrundy)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2004, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/words-you-can-not-say-as-a-real-man-addition/262928/17 "2004-09-03T07:20:37Z")
> [@Seven](#): > > Real men say what they want. Damn straight. A _real_ man could say “Oh my GOD, Vance, that new hoodie of yours looks _fabulous!_ I could just eat it up!” and make it sound good. But he wouldn’t _want_ to. And that makes all the difference. ---
**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2004, 7:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/words-you-can-not-say-as-a-real-man-addition/262928/18 "2004-09-03T07:42:15Z")
> [@iampunha](#): > > How about the more pompous (and French, for a double-whammy, to some) _anorak_? “Anorak” is actually an Inuit word. ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2004, 7:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/words-you-can-not-say-as-a-real-man-addition/262928/19 "2004-09-03T07:42:19Z")
> [@SolGrundy](#): > > Damn straight. > > A _real_ man could say “Oh my GOD, Vance, that new hoodie of yours looks _fabulous!_ I could just eat it up!” and make it sound good. > > But he wouldn’t _want_ to. And that makes all the difference. He’d prefer to say, “Fuck yeah, Vance! …” I was going to finish that quote in a very manly style, but I suddenly realize I don’t know how. Help me. ---
**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2004, 8:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/words-you-can-not-say-as-a-real-man-addition/262928/20 "2004-09-03T08:13:28Z")
> [@SPOOFE](#): > > But “underpants” is still manly, right? > > Ri-i-ight…?!? Society of Manly Men regulation 131.23.78.62.1.29 clearly states: All undergarments shall be refered to as ‘drawers’ pronounced as “Drauws”. The world underpants is hearby passed onto the sole proprietership of the Golden Girls Group. Amendment 27 indicates “free-ballin” is a preferable condition. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/words-you-can-not-say-as-a-real-man-addition/262928.md?page=2)