# Words you Hate but have resigned yourself they are here to stay

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [June 2, 2016, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/words-you-hate-but-have-resigned-yourself-they-are-here-to-stay/756311 "2016-06-02T15:06:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![Arcite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/67e7ee/32.png) [@Arcite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arcite)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/words-you-hate-but-have-resigned-yourself-they-are-here-to-stay/756311/21 "2016-06-02T17:05:04Z")

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I don’t know if this counts, because it involves alternate spellings rather than made-up or misused words, but something that still really grates on me is the gimmicky, simplified spelling of words like through (“thru,”) doughnut (“donut,”) light (“lite,”) etc. But that definitely is something I hate, but have resigned myself to, because even educated people do it and don’t see anything wrong with it.

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[ul]  
[li]Sando[/li][/ul]

There is no O in sandwich.

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**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/words-you-hate-but-have-resigned-yourself-they-are-here-to-stay/756311/23 "2016-06-02T17:07:29Z")

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Incentivized. Um, motivated?

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**Author:** ![Arcite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/67e7ee/32.png) [@Arcite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arcite)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/words-you-hate-but-have-resigned-yourself-they-are-here-to-stay/756311/24 "2016-06-02T17:08:54Z")

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> [@Mr\_Shine](#):
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> Another thread has just reminded me “bleu cheese” It’s blue cheese in English (or presumably fromage bleu in French): bleu cheese is a hybrid abomination.

Along the same lines, we can lament the by-now ubiquitous replacement of “cream” with “creme,” and “grill” with “grille.”

Oh, and other thing I definitely still hate but have resigned myself to is the real-estate industry’s successful complete replacement of the word “house” with “home,” to the extent that they now even have people talking about “townhomes” and “rowhomes.”

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**Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/words-you-hate-but-have-resigned-yourself-they-are-here-to-stay/756311/25 "2016-06-02T17:11:26Z")

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“Def”

“Whatev”

“Baby Mama” and “Baby Daddy”

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**Author:** ![Sangahyando](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f14d63/32.png) [@Sangahyando](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sangahyando)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/words-you-hate-but-have-resigned-yourself-they-are-here-to-stay/756311/26 "2016-06-02T17:12:29Z")

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A thing I’ve mentioned before on the Dope – and which is liable to set me at odds with most participants hereon; however – “cromulent”. I know the story of its _Simpsons_ origin: my dislike of it is, likely, informed by my being not much of a fan of _The Simpsons_. I reckon the series often quite witty and funny: but as to how it has come to be reckoned by countless millions of people, deathless art and a subject for passionate, unlimited devotion and a source of “quotable quotes” to put the Bible and Shakespeare completely in the shade – I just don’t get it.

And “cromulent” – hugely beloved, it seems, throughout the Net community: something about the word and the whole situation, just makes me cringe. In my view, it’s not even as though it fills a gap which was self-evidently there in the language: it’s just a goofy synonym for “valid” – I’m convinced that it would not have caught on, if it hadn’t originated with the bloody Simpsons.

I’m reluctantly resigned that “cromulent” is here to stay; but no way in hell, will I ever use the sodding word.

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**Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/words-you-hate-but-have-resigned-yourself-they-are-here-to-stay/756311/27 "2016-06-02T17:12:41Z")

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> [@Arcite](#):
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> … Oh, and other thing I definitely still hate but have resigned myself to is the real-estate industry’s successful complete replacement of the word “house” with “home,” to the extent that they now even have people talking about “townhomes” and “rowhomes.”

Don’t forget “forever home”.

Gack.

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**Author:** ![Doug\_K](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b5ac83/32.png) [@Doug\_K](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doug_K)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/words-you-hate-but-have-resigned-yourself-they-are-here-to-stay/756311/28 "2016-06-02T17:13:20Z")

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The word “cover” to refer to a new version of an old song. There’s a difference between a cover and a remake: a cover version is put out at close to the same time as (and usually in competition with) the original.

[http://www.history-of-rock.com/cover\_remake.htm](http://www.history-of-rock.com/cover_remake.htm)

[https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1683&dat=19960827&id=ZCYqAAAAIBAJ&sjid=AS4EAAAAIBAJ&pg=6780,1243972&hl=en](https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1683&dat=19960827&id=ZCYqAAAAIBAJ&sjid=AS4EAAAAIBAJ&pg=6780,1243972&hl=en)

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**Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/words-you-hate-but-have-resigned-yourself-they-are-here-to-stay/756311/29 "2016-06-02T17:17:55Z")

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The next person who says “like” 20 times in a 30-word run-on sentence is going to get pistol-whipped. I hate fillers in general, and I am acutely aware of my own verbal tics, so when I am listening to someone like that it’s almost unbearable. How do those people get any sort of professional job when they speak like 16-year-old girls who never grew up?

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**Author:** ![Sangahyando](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f14d63/32.png) [@Sangahyando](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sangahyando)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/words-you-hate-but-have-resigned-yourself-they-are-here-to-stay/756311/30 "2016-06-02T17:18:37Z")

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> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#):
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> **Orientate**. It’s just a longer word for “Orient”.

I have some sympathy for “orientate”. Sorting out one’s geographical whereabouts is – rightly, per the language specialists – “orientation”; yet – again per those worthies – when one performs that act, one “orients”, not “orientates”, oneself. I can’t help feeling that logically, this does not obviously add up; though it is very much for sure, that linguistic usage and logic often have little to do with each other.

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**Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/words-you-hate-but-have-resigned-yourself-they-are-here-to-stay/756311/31 "2016-06-02T17:29:24Z")

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Share meaning tell.  
Feel meaning think.  
Impact and its variants instead of effect, affect, and their variants.  
Podium instead of lectern.

People pronouncing the N in kiln. Yep, the dictionary I had in grade school said it was silent, so there!

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**Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/words-you-hate-but-have-resigned-yourself-they-are-here-to-stay/756311/32 "2016-06-02T17:30:57Z")

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[QUOTE=Sangahyando]  
And “cromulent” – hugely beloved, it seems, throughout the Net community: something about the word and the whole situation, just makes me cringe. In my view, it’s not even as though it fills a gap which was self-evidently there in the language: it’s just a goofy synonym for “valid” – I’m convinced that it would not have caught on, if it hadn’t originated with the bloody Simpsons.  
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See, “Cromulent” does not exactly mean “valid” to me; it has a rather distinct meaning, more along the lines of “both valid and appropriate in the manner used.” Whether it will stick I am not sure, though. I have never heard a human being say it aloud, and it may wither away when “The Simpsons” is gone. It would not be acceptable in professional or academic writing.

Being in a large city, we now have many restaurants that call themselves “Gastro pubs,” or “Gastropubs” - there is no agreement on the styling. It’s a dreadful word. “Gastropub” sounds like a parasite of the digestive system, something your doctor would diagnose you as having after sending a sample of your stool to a lab, and then he’d have a burly nurse give you a medicated enema and tell you not to eat sushi from a roadside stand in Tulsa anymore unless you want to get another infestation of gastropubs. It’s not just ugly, it’s pointless. Call it a restaurant, a bar, or a pub. I know what those things are.

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> [@Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](#):
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> [ul]  
> [li]Sando[/li][/ul]
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> There is no O in sandwich.

Agreed. The correct shorthand form is “sandy”. As in:

“You wanna pea-bo jelly sandy?”

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**Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/words-you-hate-but-have-resigned-yourself-they-are-here-to-stay/756311/34 "2016-06-02T17:36:58Z")

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“colorway” when referring to the color of a garment. ie, This blouse comes in a blue colorway. Colorway does not refer to a single item in a single color.

Yes, colorway is a word, but it describes something more akin to a color scheme. Correct usage would be “This blouse comes in a variety of colorways.”

I think people feel that ‘colorway’ is fancier than mere ‘color’, but it grinds my mental gears to hear it used incorrectly so often when speaking of fashion.

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The French word crème denotes not only dairy cream, but also other thick liquids such as sweet and savory custards, which are normally made with milk, not cream.

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> [@Mr\_Shine](#):
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> “Hoover” when referring to a vacuum cleaner not made by the Hoover corporation. This one has been going on since before I was born though so the fight was lost even before I was aware there was something to be annoyed about.

Can I get you an aspirin? 😃

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So many annoying words. Where to start?

“Vape”. :rolleyes:

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> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#):
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> Agreed. The correct shorthand form is “sandy”. As in:
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> “You wanna pea-bo jelly sandy?”

> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#):
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> Agreed. The correct shorthand form is “sandy”. As in:
> 
> “You wanna pea-bo jelly sandy?”

Nope, it’s “sammy,” as in short for “sammich.” 😃

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[Let my friend, here, say it for me](https://youtu.be/JU-OycAb_Lg?t=8)–I, I just can’t:

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> [@california\_jobcase](#):
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> Share meaning tell.  
> Feel meaning think.  
> Impact and its variants instead of effect, affect, and their variants.  
> Podium instead of lectern.
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> People pronouncing the N in kiln. Yep, the dictionary I had in grade school said it was silent, so there!

“Podium instead of lectern” is sheer pedantry, which is exactly why I VIGOROUSLY AND LOUDLY DEMAND THE PROPER USAGE OF “LECTERN” ON EVERY OCCASION, AND THEY, WHETHER THEY WILL HEAR, OR WHETHER THEY WILL FOREBEAR…YET SHALL KNOW THAT THERE HATH BEEN A PROPHET AMONG THEM!

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